>> ^Sarzy:

>> ^Stormsinger:
Disney's biggest selling features, like Mickey Mouse and the Lion King, were clearly stolen from other artist's work.

You're definitely right about The Lion King, but what was Mickey Mouse stolen from? The only character I can think of is Oswald, but that was a Disney creation as well.
(and I think Star Wars should be just fine at Disney -- it's hard to argue that they've done anything but a bang-up job with Marvel's cinematic output, and presumably they'll put the same thought and care into future Star Wars films)

You may be right...there was a toy that some claim Mortimer/Mickey was copied from, but that's not what I was remembering. Sadly, I cannot find any reference to what I thought I remembered, so I'll have to drop Mickey as an example.

However, few of Disney's big films were original stories, he had a penchant for taking public domain IP and using it (The Brothers Grimm, and Hans Christian Anderson for example)...then, as we all know, buying politicians to make sure that his own copyrights would never expire. Still a form of theft, but not quite as severe.

Bottom line, it's not a company I care to patronize...but Star Wars is not a property I care about either, so it's a fairly moot point to me.

>> ^Stormsinger:

Disney's biggest selling features, like Mickey Mouse and the Lion King, were clearly stolen from other artist's work.


You're definitely right about The Lion King, but what was Mickey Mouse stolen from? The only character I can think of is Oswald, but that was a Disney creation as well.

(and I think Star Wars should be just fine at Disney -- it's hard to argue that they've done anything but a bang-up job with Marvel's cinematic output, and presumably they'll put the same thought and care into future Star Wars films)

I don't get what's to be excited about...one lying hack* gets bought out by a pack of thieving hacks**. Why should I give a shit either way?

* Check out how Lucas's answer about "Is Star Wars based on Campbell's Hero's Journey?" First it wasn't, then it was...apparently based either on how much Lucas knew of the topic, or how afraid he was of being sued, or whether he was trying to hitch a ride on the hype train.

** Disney's biggest selling features, like Mickey Mouse and the Lion King, were clearly stolen from other artist's work.

[Talking voice]
Yeah man, just left town man
I'm here, here
Had to get outta town baby
Where you stayin' now?
You can pick me up at the round busstation
Or I can take a plane
There's your cab? I'll be right over
It's gonna be a few sec, and I'll tell you what went down

[Kool Keith]
I stayed in New York, depressed, walkin' mad through the block
Watching brothers go down, my project friends smoking rock
My group divided and everthing was undecided
I was drinking, thinking: "Damn, man, my boat is sinking"
Everybody's wack and new groups comin' back
They on Arsenio, booty's on video
Watch this clown rhyme that's paid for on primetime
Everybody's mean, they're hard, they're killing mothers
Shootin' bang bang, fakin man killing brothers
I had to turn off the radio from all the Walt Disney
Mickey Mouse and friends all talking pop and lippy
Girls excited for what? And over-infatuated
People got their brain washed and folks got manipulated
They start beleiving Donald Duck made the earth
The industry was cursed since the Dinosaur's birth
(The industry was cursed since the Dinosaur's birth)

[Chorus]
It's over now
No problems in this world
It's over now
I'm home chillin' with my girl
It's over now
My mind was in a twirl
It's over now
I'm home chillin' with my girl
It's over now
No problems in this world
It's over now
I'm home chillin' with my girl
It's over now
My mind was caught up in a twirl
It's over now
I'm home chillin' with my girl

[Kool Keith]
Flying nighttime, eating peanuts on the plane
With no moneycontrol, my stress builds on my brain
My ticket's oneway
I'm out to southern Caliway
I left behind some people that wasn't even equal
I thought back with chicks and freaks in 86'
When Marley was in in control +the funky magic mix+
I had the limousine on hold with the real chauffeur
Ripped the ???? up with Ultra and I felt like Oprah
Girls in flocks and fans in lines from blocks
I didn't even hear a peep of you rappin' mister
I was your idol and probably on your older sister
Now you bad you signed stupid with a recorddeal
Your image is butt you perpertrating Shootin' Steel
Holdin' guns on albumcovers just to make funds
You the man quick fast payed out the ?anoass?
You can see I'm back and clear on stereo
with my own style, my intimite material

[Talking voice]
Ye, your style changed every year
Think about what you did
Used to dance, used to wear suits
Then you came back to wearing hip-hop clothes
Then you went back to wearing suits

[Chorus]
It's over now
No problems in this world
It's over now
I'm home chillin' with my girl
It's over now
My mind was caught up in a twirl
It's over now
I'm home chillin' with my girl

[Kool Keith]
No accountant, my lawyer keepin' checks on the low
Money, expenses for trips I didn't know
Agencies finding shows I could get myself
Writing rhymes at night in the house by myself
I open mailboxes, all I see was more bills
Gettin' cold chicken, walkin' down Bronx hills
Askin' moms for 50 cent, just to pay my rent
I had no will to ill, my mind was out to kill
I called up Kurt, got a big deal signed with Capitol
Money's flowin' now wild suckas out blowin' up
They my pupic care, and pupils still growin' up
Sucking mean while the g'ism as it hits the rhythm
They want that new style, no money it's called freestyle
Taping off the radio, smokin' from my crack vial
They on my tip now, as always as usual
You forgot me, but I didn't forget you

[Chorus]
2x It's over now
No problems in this world
It's over now
I'm home chillin' with my girl
It's over now
My mind was caught up in a twirl
It's over now
I'm home chillin' with my girl

Yeah...

[Fades out, consisting of scratching sounds]

>> ^00Scud00:

The whole "secret service" thing seemed a bit overblown to me, having plainclothes security in a place like Disney Land doesn't surprise me in the least.


I wonder if they have those secret service ear pieces in their Mickey Mouse ears, and they put their fingers up to them whenever someone is talking to them.

I found this on Google video. In light of the recent court ruling regarding embedding, I decided to discuss it with the community.
When Rosa Parks sat in front of the bus, she knew it was against the rules. Nevertheless, the rules didn't change until she broke them.
Of course, I don't want any legal repercussions to befall our website. But, like I said, I found this on Google video. Should the hammer drop on me, VideoSift, Google, the Pentagon for inventing the internet? I don't know. But it merits a discussion.
I mean, it's not like I drew Mickey Mouse or something.

I'm often a police sympathizer. In this case I'd be interested in a little bit more context, but doubt it would really change my mind. This response seemed pretty disproportionate to the size of the rally, and you can't help but wonder if that has to do with the content of the rally.

At the same time, if you are the cops going to police the KILL PIGS rally, you probably want to make sure everyone is ready for anything. Unfortunately some precincts don't consider tolerance of mild civil disobedience. In cases like this it could be the most effective way to diffuse the situation. Worst thing that happens is they break a couple windows, set a dumpster on fire, and look like a bunch of assholes. Instead they have photos of you charging mickey mouse and your assault rifles and batons at the police brutality rally. That's some quality police work.

>> ^spoco2:

Oh come ON!
It's a perfectly valid rule they have, otherwise any dick could dress up as Mickey Mouse and be a shithead to kids.
Fricken mountain out of a molehill. Disney did the right thing by giving them free clothes to wear, they were perfectly good about it, so screw her for not looking into it beforehand, and for getting worked up over it when they were obviously allowed to stay.
She needs to grow up


Exactly.

I go in dressed as Mickey.

I slap every kid I see in the face all day.

Park gets sued.

Really? did she REALLY think this was plausible?


...side note, parks tinkerbell is hot.

Oh come ON!

It's a perfectly valid rule they have, otherwise any dick could dress up as Mickey Mouse and be a shithead to kids.

Fricken mountain out of a molehill. Disney did the right thing by giving them free clothes to wear, they were perfectly good about it, so screw her for not looking into it beforehand, and for getting worked up over it when they were obviously allowed to stay.

She needs to grow up

Funny, I was looking at the video and had almost the same thought than you. Except that being european I knew it was not happening here either
>> ^Trancecoach:

exactly -- that NEVER happens in Disney World.. This must be EuroDisney or some shit.>> ^Shepppard:
Where is this that the mickey mouse is allowed to just take his head off and sit there?

This is in Las Vegas, Nevada, specifically, Caesars Forum Shops Northern Entrance. There are a lot of out-of-work people that create various costumes and prance around the sidewalks for tips, some offer dance shows (street dancing) while some just stand there as still as possible, 2 of my favorites are: Freddy Kruger and the iconic man from Monopoly (supposedly in pewter).

>> ^Trancecoach:

exactly -- that NEVER happens in Disney World.. This must be EuroDisney or some shit.>> ^Shepppard:
Where is this that the mickey mouse is allowed to just take his head off and sit there?

>> ^Trancecoach:

exactly -- that NEVER happens in Disney World.. This must be EuroDisney or some shit.>> ^Shepppard:
Where is this that the mickey mouse is allowed to just take his head off and sit there?



Fun fact: Walt Disney was walking through tomorrowland in Disneyland, when he saw a cowboy walk past him. He asked "Why is this man here?" to which someone replied "The break rooms are in tomorrowland, he has to go through it to get there". Walt was incredibly unhappy with this, because it broke the illusion.

When Disney World was being conceived, he made sure that a system of tunnels was built underneath the park so that this situation would never happen again.

exactly -- that NEVER happens in Disney World.. This must be EuroDisney or some shit.>> ^Shepppard:

Where is this that the mickey mouse is allowed to just take his head off and sit there?

Where is this that the mickey mouse is allowed to just take his head off and sit there?

In reply to this comment by dag:
This is actually really tight. I'm a sucker for old Disney tunes and good harmony. *promote

Thanks man!

I just got the DVD collection for the first season of The Adventures of Spin and Marty [from the original Mickey Mouse Club]. I can't stop singing the theme song ... "Way out there at the Triple R, Yippee Yay, Yipee Yo"