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Rasch! This belongs in *rocknroll! Beatles Rock Band!!! Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr even had personal appearances!

Note to self: never trust Wikipedia.

From the Beatles Bible:

One of Lennon and McCartney's earliest songs, I'll Follow The Sun was written in 1959 at McCartney's family home in Allerton, Liverpool.

"I wrote that in my front parlour in Forthlin Road. I was about 16. I'll Follow The Sun was one of those very early ones. I seem to remember writing it just after I'd had the flu and I had that cigarette - I smoked when I was 16 - the cigarette that's the 'cotton wool' one. You don't smoke while you're ill but after you get better you have a cigarette and it's terrible, it tastes like cotton wool, horrible. I remember standing in the parlour, with my guitar, looking out through the lace curtains of the window, and writing that one."

Paul McCartney
The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions, Mark Lewisohn

1. Ever Present Past-Paul McCartney
2. You Can Call Me Al-Paul Simon
3. Debaser-Pixies
4. Jailhouse-Sublime
5. Oh My Golly-Pixies
6. Femme Fatale-Velvet Underground
7. Those to Come-Shins
8. Love Spreads-Stone Roses
9. Son of Three-Breeders
10.No Aloha-Breeders

Paul McCartney performing GET BACK on the marquee of the Ed Sullivan Theater - performing for the David Letterman Show 7/15/2009 (Sorry about the quality).

You wanna some REALLY weird middle-name stuph?

WAYNE

The Classic Middle Name (all-new!)
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And this is not a one-off phenomenon - the site lists murderers with Wayne as a middle name every few weeks.

Creepy.

OK, so Mr. Laurie doesn't have it easy. But imagine how Ringo Starr and Paul McCartney must feel. Here you are a man in his late sixties, with grandchildren for Christ's sakes. And all anyone ever wants to talk to you about is something you did for six years when you were in your early twenties.

Imagine discussing YOUR early twenties for the rest of your life in excruciating detail. What a hellish existence. No wonder John and George were so reclusive.

it was just a different scene... the beatles were the first boy band.

they had the right stuff.. talent + marketability.. and the game has never been the same.

mccartney looks about half dead now but maybe he just has massively great chronic.

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I think Gladwell is a great writer, but he kind of misses the point.

The Beatles weren't known for their musicianship, they were known for their song-writing, and that didn't have a lot to do with them playing in Hamburg.

Lennon was great, McCartney was great, but Lennon & McCartney was/is simply unmatched.

beat me by 53 secs
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In the case of the Beatles, who's to say the school McCartney and Harrison went to didn't foster their musical creativity? This guy has unrealistic expectations of a school's goals and what it should accomplish with its education. I'd go as far as to say they're elitist at best.

I can tell you from my own experience working at schools that the myth of "troublemakers get all the attention" is flat out wrong. Again from my experience. The same goes for "those who could be great" being consistently missed, what does that even mean? There's nothing speaking for that statement being in the least true, but even if a teacher doesn't abandon his class to go foster a child prodigy's ego, it won't mean that the child prodigy would suddenly lose its gift. There's this little thing called parents who also have a responsibility to help raise and educate their children. But then again I don't really understand what the whole "those who could be great" thing means, or why that should be the case.
Try giving the teachers classes of fewer than 30 students and fewer classes each semester aswell as the time and funding they desperately need, and you'll see the level of educational standards raised significantly. Because most teacher working full-time have over a hundred different students to teach each semester, all with different levels of knowledge and various abilities to learn. That means it's simply impossible to give every child full attention all the time. It would be wonderful if each student could get all the help they wanted at every moment of the day, but for a democracy to actually function properly you need citizens who can make informed decisions and not just decisions, which is why you can't just discard the numbskulls and focus on the gifted ones.
The guy in the video kept whining over that McCartney wasn't "discovered" in school as if the school itself should've somehow made sure he went and became a Beetle. That shows he fundamentally misunderstood what the goals of the school were. It also shows he was completely oblivious to the fact that McCartney went into music in a community which at the time was heavily biased against the arts, which very well could be attributed to him being subjected to music in school.

Also, there are more than one method used in schools, not only between countries but also between educational systems. But none of them ignores gifted students in favour of troubled ones. Generally, they all subscribe to the idea that we shouldn't actively work to create an educational class system but instead give all children the opportunity for an equal education. That does not mean they're in any way inhibited to go beyond the basic education, in school or after, but instead of ignoring the struggling children there's this crazy idea of leveling the playing field and raising the bar not for a select few but for everyone.
One of the most successful educational forms shown in preschool and gradeschool is with mixed classes of grades 1-3, 4-6 and 7-9, where the students aid the teacher by helping out in teaching each other.

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Isn't it a bit unfair to blame the school for not being able to pick up on Paul McCartney's musical talent as a kid in a class of roundabout 30 students

His argument seems to be that this status quo that you mention is a problem. That we don't have a mechanism for developing human potential. I don't think he is attacking the tpeople working at the schools, more the conditions which don't allow the teacher to find or develop talent.

Now at the risk of getting my head chopped off I would like to note that I would not consider the early Beatles to be clearly musical geniuses. And I would go farther and argue that McCartney is not exceptionally musically talented.

Isn't it a *bit* unfair to blame the school for not being able to pick up on Paul McCartney's musical talent as a kid in a class of roundabout 30 students, in a subject that's not meant to foster child prodigys but to get everyone to get a feel for music and to stimulate their artistic sides by playing instruments, sing and create sounds? Seriously, this talker seems to believe that the arts class should be some sort of talent show for youngsters.
If McCartney hadn't gone to those classes, he might never have had the inclination to play in a band. Who can say for certain what made him go into music? I can tell you this though, the school bloody well didn't supress or ignore him by "not spotting anything".
That music teacher, who "had half the Beatles in his class", most likely had well over a hundred students a year. He/she would have had a strict curriculum stating that all the children would have to preform certain things before each school year was out, like for instance sing a song and play an instrument etc. That's what the music class is for, not spot the most musically gifted students and make popstars of them! And let's not overlook that neither McCartney nor Harrison at that time might've had their musical talent developed to any degree at all.

No, from my perspective it seems as if this talker needs to bring his expectations of teachers to the reality-based world and maybe try teaching gradeschool himself, or just stop talking to think for a second, before creating impossible demands like that.