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Is it nuance to be an innocent family on the receiving end of a high explosive round? Last time I checked, whether it's via gas or a shell, death is death. Do you think the Palestinians suffer less fear waiting to see if they are about to die? That you raise scale as a method of differentiation is laughable. Israel has has ~70 years of slowly whittling away at Palestine and it's people.

And the facile differentiation between a German concentration camp and Gaza is beneath you. You would much rather not live in fucking either, and neither would all of us if we were given a choice. That the Israelis are going about the business of eliminating Palestine slowly is more about international backlash. If they thought they could get away with it, they'd sweep them in to the sea and be done with it.

And in response to the invocation of Godwin's Law, you do understand that the purpose of the Godwin is to reduce/remove ludicrous hyperbole, not to shut down legitimate comparisons? Much as you could draw parallels with Idi Armin, Stalin/Russia etc, Israel is engaging in similar tactics. Fascism, racism, segregation, making war on civilians etc. That it isn't a 100% carbon copy is irrelevant.

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My standard is absolute as well. Any deity that would command it's people to do evil things in the name of order (as opposed to 'good') is evil...

God's old testament law is not about being good, it's about following the rules. Even if the rules are inherently evil (ownership and (mis)treatment of slaves for example).

Your charactisation of your god is as a slave master who demands absolute obedience, not as a loving father protecting his flock... Further, god changes his mind on the punishment and decides suddenly that the one must sacrifice for the all... Sin didn't disappear, but all the drastic measures you claim are needed to combat it sure did. Mebbe he finally woke up to the fact that commanding people to commit atrocities is.. ya know, WRONG... Gee, convenient for those born AD right? X D

How about you SB? If your god commanded it would you stone your child to death for talking back?

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/children.html

Yeah, your god is loving and kind... Like Idi Amin or Pol Pot was... If any human did what god ordered back then, we would condemn them.. Sharia law and all that right? Pro tip, if us flawed humans can see that something is morally wrong, how can the almighty not?

>> ^shinyblurry:

The proof that you're not is that you give no regard to the sin itself. You are using a relative standard to judge his crime, whereas God uses an absolute standard. There is no such thing as a minor sin in Gods eyes. God is holy and His standard is moral perfection. Moral perfection is what God calls good, and everything short of that is evil. He has also ordained the death penalty for all sin.
Neither was the crime itself picking up sticks. The actual crime was rebellion. It is not a minor thing to break Gods law, which the man knew full well he was doing. God punished Him not only for rebellion, but also as a public example to the rest of Israel that His laws were to be taken seriously. You have to remember that the Jews were His chosen people, and that they had entered into a covenant with God willingly. They agreed to follow His laws and adhere to His standards, and His standard was that they would be holy as He is holy. This meant that they would obey His law unceasingly with no exceptions. They also agreed with God that if they did not obey His law, they would incur the penalties He laid out.
I will agree that stoning is a particularly harsh punishment, but while you don't think the punishment fits the crime, that is because you don't understand how bad sin really is. Consider for a moment that what I said earlier is true, that one sin led to all of the madness that we see in the world today. If you can comprehend that, maybe you'll start to get the idea why God would use such a punishment as a deterrent.
You say there is no way a loving God would ever do that, to which I reply, that a loving God would do everything possible, including invoking extremely harsh punishments, to prevent as much sin as possible and protect His creation from the greatest amount of harm. To not take extreme measures against sin would actually be a point against Him, and not for Him.

>> ^dag:

When will Hitler and his cronies stop being the go to comparison for any extreme negative comparison in politics? There's such a rich history of nasty leaders who could be used in place - Pol Pot, idi amin, Caligula, Andrew Jackson.


That only works if the viewers of Glenn Beck know enough to get those comparisons -- I doubt it.

If the Lib Dems grow balls, how the hell will they ride their bicycles?

>> ^Deano:

>> ^Gallowflak:
Snore.
>> ^Deano:
>> ^dag:
When will Hitler and his cronies stop being the go to comparison for any extreme negative comparison in politics? There's such a rich history of nasty leaders who could be used in place - Pol Pot, idi amin, Caligula, Andrew Jackson.

Tony Blair.
Nick Clegg.


Oh come on, I thought mentioning Nick Clegg was funny. Apparently he's embracing his new role as treacherous little git. Always good to see a Liberal Democrat grow some balls...

>> ^Gallowflak:

Snore.
>> ^Deano:
>> ^dag:
When will Hitler and his cronies stop being the go to comparison for any extreme negative comparison in politics? There's such a rich history of nasty leaders who could be used in place - Pol Pot, idi amin, Caligula, Andrew Jackson.

Tony Blair.
Nick Clegg.



Oh come on, I thought mentioning Nick Clegg was funny. Apparently he's embracing his new role as treacherous little git. Always good to see a Liberal Democrat grow some balls...

Snore.

>> ^Deano:

>> ^dag:
When will Hitler and his cronies stop being the go to comparison for any extreme negative comparison in politics? There's such a rich history of nasty leaders who could be used in place - Pol Pot, idi amin, Caligula, Andrew Jackson.

Tony Blair.
Nick Clegg.

>> ^dag:

When will Hitler and his cronies stop being the go to comparison for any extreme negative comparison in politics? There's such a rich history of nasty leaders who could be used in place - Pol Pot, idi amin, Caligula, Andrew Jackson.


Tony Blair.
Nick Clegg.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

When will Hitler and his cronies stop being the go to comparison for any extreme negative comparison in politics? There's such a rich history of nasty leaders who could be used in place - Pol Pot, idi amin, Caligula, Andrew Jackson.

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In Bruges was rather enjoyable, even though i'm not a big fan of Colin Farrell's. But i have to admit, if he's cast to play an Irish bloke, it's quite entertaining.

My recommendation would be Defiance, even though many critics will tear it apart. It's somewhat of a light version of Idi i smotri aka Come and See.

^idi naxui!

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