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No fire alarms triggered?

@renatojj

Church has high interested in religious candidates being elected. Most of the debates going on in politics are based on religious philosophy. Few off the top of my head are abortion, creationism, and women's rights. They've been going against the grain of the Constitution trying to get creationism which is a arguably religion based subject taught in schools. Which in turn possibly gets them more followers, which in turn gets them more tithing and more people in their "group" giving them more power. In fact I would argue they are specifically trying to erode the line between church and state with these arguments, injecting religion based reasons into many of the arguments.

Big media networks push for things like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996 where the reason for the bill is not actually what ends up happening. It was supposed to deregulate and open up the market for competition and instead it allowed them to reconsolidate by buying up competitors. And they largely don't fight with censorship on curse words because generally it drives off their audience, and those networks that don't have to censor curse words charge for the privilege of hearing them and seeing some nudity to boot. And they also support SOPA-like bills which are essential a blanket tool to censor the web....they also support monitoring and traffic shaping on the networks they control...which is another potential avenue for censorship.

You'll have to be more specific on what you're getting at......all these groups are eroding divisions we built through regulation and have been doing so steadily since the 80s at every opportunity across industries.

I've already shown that given the chance, they buy up competition to remain a monopoly. Look at ISPs, look at all the oil companies we USED to have. Look at the media conglomerates that own the majority of your radio stations ( I think there's two major radio networks, but they have like a million different stations under the same banners so it LOOKS like choice). How the record labels and movie industries are all tied together and often even tied into the same parent company that owns your ISP. Cell phone industry, ATT trying to buy T Mobile which would have brought it down to 3 major providers and they did it in the name of "better service" but still haven't announced plans to build out their infrastructure since the deal went through...why? Because it wasn't about better service, it was about buying up a competitor that offered plans at prices people preferred.

When people are unhappy with their ISPs they've tried to form local government run coop non-profit ISPs, and they get sued by the huge companies who refuse to service their area. It's happened multiple times. With regulation, they would have to provide internet to those places in a timely manner instead of preventing people from doing their own thing.

Did GoDaddy pay dearly for supporting SOPA? I heard they lost 30k subscribers at some point, but did they really? You'll have to show me on that. GoDaddy did lots of terrible things before it, yet they were still a huge provider and still are. They cybersquat on domain names people search for and allow you to buy them at "auction" from them when you try to look up if it's taken or not..they snatch it up to sell to you. They also give away people's domain names with no repercussions and a myriad of other things. Sounds like it needs a regulatory body with some teeth on it to make them act right or shut them down.

Unions are actually a really good way to fight monopolies and under the table deals, but they've been systematically villified. And unions aren't monopolies if they aren't mandatory, and most places are not fully unionized anymore. Often times they will have sections with union employees to do government work and non-union to do non-government work. Non-union guys make half the rate of union guys usually, and have less protections in place to keep themselves from getting shafted. But I don't really see how a union is a monopoly when there are lots of unions and lots of individuals in a union who make decisions for themselves and not as a collective like a company would. IE a company has a "head" that directs it and unions are a collective of individuals. Companies are people after all, unions are not (they are made up of people).

There are laws governing behavior usually based roughly on societal standards. Like pot being illegal is kind of against most of the societies beliefs, yet it remains illegal is an example of where it doesn't quite track. But overall we have laws that say you can't write a check that you know won't cash. Drunk driving, trespassing, vandalism, theft.....yelling fire in a crowded building.......setting off the fire alarm for fun.....etc. Giving people the finger isn't against the law....well probably not in most places so that might fall under social pressure. But we see that social pressure fails miserably at stopping bad behavior, so we have laws to enforce behavior...like not stealing and not murdering. This is society and people holding other people to standards, without the law to judge and convict them by the only thing you have left is personal interpretation and meeting out punishment by each individual or vigilante justice.

If you don't regulate business there is nothing stopping them, because nothing about our market is free. You can't have a free market without perfect information. You can't know every possible thing going on, so you will never have perfect information even if it was possible. So you will have swindlers and knock offs, pyramid schemes, etc. And without laws and regulations on these things, you will never be able to punish the company for what they did in a court of law.

Even if they were 100% above the board honest, they'd still be sourcing their materials from overseas and getting inferior materials to what you are paying for. It happens to the military all the time right now. They buy a bunch of nuts and bolts and some of them are chinese knockoffs that fail well after the installation is done and the machine is in operation. They can't catch them because china is basically lawless when it comes to producing goods for knock off purposes. It could just as easily be a US source doing it if we de-regulated everything and made no way for people to sue them into oblivion...because the damage would be done as soon as you buy a knock off and it fries the rest of your stuff.

The definition of "free market" right now means they want to be able to buy stuff cheap as shit from overseas and charge you US built prices for it. And when it comes to financial industry "free market" means they want to have speculation upon speculation to where the financial industry has 10-100x more money leveraged than what actually exists. It's a house of cards if they can just inflate it without any kind of acceptable risks being enforced.

@aurens, One of the main techniques Ron Paul uses to manipulate people like you is by telling you that his definition of liberty is the ONLY definition, and that his interpretation of the constitution is the ONLY interpretation. By doing this, he leads you to believe that you are heroically fighting for liberty and the constitution, when in reality you are actually fighting for a very partisan and fringy set of far right political beliefs.

I find this fundamentally dishonest, whether you are aware you are doing it or not. I was mocking you, yes, but don't assume humor can't be 'part of the conversation' too.

Without using delusional 'constitution liberty, blah blah blah' type rhetoric, tell me why federal civil rights protections should be ended. Become part of the conversation.

Important point---> The constitution is like the Bible; people can use it to justify just about anything they want it to. This is fine, but when you use the circular reasoning that 'my candidate's subjective interpretation of the constitution is the ONLY interpretation of the constitution, therefore I am right and you are wrong by default', people like me might mockingly call you out on your self deception.

And, @artician, don't give me that condescending and assumptive 'you might learn something' bullshit. I've studied and discussed Ron Paul and libertarianism intensively over the last few years. The more I learn, the less I like it, which probably explains why Paul's support is wider than it is deep. I doubt you have anything more to teach be, as I seem to know more about the movement than you do, but if you have a new talking point, feel free to recite it for me. Ron Paul is a joke. If you are interested in learning about your candidate, here are some study materials: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/of1yc/why_ron_paul_is_possibly_the_worst_presidential/

As far as 'racism' goes, how many excuses are Ron Paul supporters going to come up with before they come to terms with the fact that this guy, if not racist himself, has certainly used racism for profit and political advancement?

The facts (off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more)
-RP ran a number of racist newsletter for many years.
-RP changed his position on the letters from 'the quotes were taken out of context' to 'I didn't write them.
-Many members of his staff have attested that he signed off on these letters.
-He has been photographed with many white supremacists.
-He has received campaign contributions from big names in white supremacist circles, which he kept.
-He has appeared on white supremacist talk radio shows.
-He speaks for the John Birch society.
-He was against the civil rights act.
-Anonymous found heavy organizational ties between RP and white supremacists.
-He uses the same states rights rhetoric as white supremacists.

How much smoke do you need to inhale before you pull the fire alarm?

Enough hero worship already. Try Occam's Razor instead.

It sounds like it's imitating a fire alarm.

You have no one to blame but are own Government. Government is to do right by its people. However they are corrupt by accepting money from large powerful groups to get special privileges. You can blame big business. Its the Government stupid.

It's like me giving you 10 bucks to pull a fire alarm and you do it. Who is t blame?

You big stupid.

That fire did not want to go out! That aside, I am pretty sure everyone on deck is trained and prepared for this on every single landing. The deck of a ship is not the best place for an out of control fire. Also the place is small, a general fire alarm with emergency crews to deck pretty much nets you a tidy fireman force in seconds. I kinda wonder why the fire truck stopped, it shoulda kept going along the side and blasted that huge sucker up the hind end of the plane and not sit there washing the windows. Trust me, if that thing blows, you arnt saving the pilot from where you are now.

When I was in kindergarten I got sent out into the hall for shooting crayons at a classmate. The place where the teacher made me stand was right beneath the fire alarm. Now mind you I was in kindergarten, so I had very little reading skills at the time, so I didn't understands the words on the handle. Anyway, I figured it be some sort of handle that was just begging to be pulled, so I did so. Then all hell brook loose.

Everyone in the school had to be evacuated because of little old me. The fire department came out, and rapidly determined that it was my little hand behind the whole fiasco. I subsequently got spanked by a mean old nun (I went to Catholic school), and then got sent to the principal's office. The principal made me call home, and I was crying so bad that my mom could barely understand me. Anyway, she picked me up, with both of us fearing what my father would do after he found out.

Instead of getting a spanking or a slap from him, he just gave a stern look of disapproval, followed by rolling his eyes. That hurt worst than any spanking to me. I may have just been 5, but I could tell what a look of disappointment on my parents' faces was. And that is something I'll never forget.

I bet this still won't wake me up if I can sleep through my college dorm's high pitch fire alarms.

2:08 she needs to replace her fire alarm battery

From my dupe: This girl just wanted it to snow in her dorm so she could make snow angels. Just a little harmless fun. Right? So at 2 o'clock in the morning she sprayed a fire extinguisher and- oops. It set of the fire alarm for the entire building waking everyone into a frenzy.

At least she was sorry.

>> ^southblvd:
Porkchop sandwiches!


That one is my favorite!

Yea either he is totally separated from reality, or its fake. I kind of think its fake only by the fire pattern. It traveled from one side of the sink to the other in a flash through a trail of something that ignited quickly and left sparks. Also everything on the other side ignited at once into a mini fireball, considering it looks like he just has standered paper, magazines, and maybe photos (to show people over the radio, you know?) its not really something that would ignite completely in a flash. There does seem to be a visual fire alarm that is tripped the instant the flash happens, and my guess is this is probably normal for the OTA room, you dont want your shows and broadcast interrupted by fake fire alarms and such ever. However lack of sprinklers is ultimate fail.

At the end of the clip, the fire alarm was going off, and the guy on the floor with his singed pants pulled down had the greatest "I don't believe this" look on his face and was about to scream in a girlish voice "You fucking asshole!" I really wish the video had gone another ten or twenty seconds, but sometimes freeze framing in the middle of something frenetic lets you savour the chaos. Ask Guy Ritchie.

Did the fire alarm go off at the end?