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Trump to be arrested

newtboy says...

Trump is a New Yorker first and foremost. He committed the crimes in New York. Can’t escape because everyone that knows him hates him. That’s true everywhere, including Fox.

Trump said he’ll be arrested, so it’s almost certainly a lie. I bet he won’t be arrested but will surrender…he doesn’t want the perp walk in every Democratic and Republican campaign ad for 2 years. I wish it were true.

Jebus you’re delusional. So, the entire country is a leftist cabal against poor Don….but it’s 250000000 people in an evil conspiracy to make up crimes and destroy an innocent man, not a nation that hates the man that tried to take over by force and become the fourth reicht with the most criminal administration this country has ever known by a factor of 10.

Trump is facing over 20 cases, many criminal including theft, destruction, holding, and dissemination of classified documents that would be life in prison by itself, multiple blatant campaign finance violations from thefts to accepting foreign donations without reporting them, a coup, false electors, abuses of power, etc. in many many courts in red states including Georgia….I suppose Georgia is now a leftist state full of leftist citizens too….any place that can see the blatant criminality must just be leftists, which you claim means they’re all liars with no qualms about perjury….or maybe Delusional Don the Con, convicted of multiple cons already, leader of the party that said clearly and publicly that they have no obligation to tell you the truth, is just a criminal con man.

All this to keep the despotic terrorist leader that tried to end democracy, destroyed the economy like never before, had the worst unemployment record ever, and by his own administration’s accounting is personally responsible for a minimum of 500000 dead Americans, more than died in WW2, and arguably over 1 million by closing the pandemic response team’s offices from ever holding office again..and to uphold the rule of law that applies to everyone or no one. The legal reasons to bar him from office are so numerous just listing them would double this posts length. Truth is he’s not a viable candidate anyway, likely won’t get the nomination, and if he does it will be a gimme for Biden. Trump is toxic, the most hated politician in American history. Outside the cult his support is zero (except from those paid to shill for him).

“Non bought”, only an honorless liar like you could try to say that.
His campaign has been caught with MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of illegal foreign “donations” (called bribes) most from Russia or Russians in Ukraine. His family took in the neighborhood of $3 BILLION from hostile foreign powers like China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc. Verified, documented, not even contested. He took money from any corporation that could stomach him, and he used his campaign funds as a personal bank account, paying his family members $1.8 million an hour for introducing him on stage ($60k for 2 minutes).
There’s never been a more bought politician or a more unqualified nepotistic administration….but he doesn’t stay bought, he flips the instant someone pays him to flip or if the political wind changes direction.

“Incredibly convoluted campaign finance laws nobody understands”?!? It’s pretty simple actually, they’re sworn documents, if you lie that’s fraud and perjury. If you commit a crime then compound it with federal fraud and perjury, it’s enhanced. Nice attempt at “nobody knows the law, so they don’t apply”. Fuckwits.
If you falsify business records to hide massive campaign contributions/expenditures, that’s a felony. That’s exactly what he did, repeatedly, and has multiple trials for violations in multiple courts.

If paying Stormy Daniells benefits the campaign and he hides it, lies about it, and fails to report it it’s criminal, that’s all that matters, not anything else, they know it. They’re playing you, again. You’re dropping to your knees and gaping your mouth, drooling Pavlovianly.

Notice, Gershawitz expects conviction.

Trump’s campaign is nothing but an attempt to escape prosecution, not the other way around, friendo. Blatantly, obviously, admittedly in private and anonymously.

“Cleaning up my mess”? No sir, not mine. Enjoy watching America clean up your mess, fuckwit….with trial after trial after trial after trial after trial after trial….remember how “being under investigation” was something Trump said was disqualifying for Clinton (despite being under investigation himself at the time)? No, of course you don’t.

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy


Newtboy biggest wet dream to date.
Enjoy cleaning up your mess.


Hard Leftest state, Leftest city, Leftest citizens.
Do you think trump has a fair chance in the court of law?

All this just to keep the only non bought elected official from running again.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

So that’s a “no” to retracting your homophobic nonsense red herring slanderous lie, and a “yes” to you “being the biggest rancid douche bag possible at all times.” Noted. I’m aware it’s difficult for clinically insecure people to ever admit mistakes. Often that makes them be disgusting liars.




Here’s one of dozens I’ve read.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-14/david-depape-paul-pelosi-preliminary-trial
It’s well established based on his own videoed confession he’s a Q nut MAGgot insurrectionist election denier. He was there to kill her over Trump’s big lie, that he won an election (never happened, he only won one electoral college once). If she admitted the lie, he would only break her legs. He was a Trump fan boy like yourself, and a hard far righty. Self delusional, hypocritical, and nonsensical….just like most MAGgots. Like so many he was also a violent delusional criminal. He didn’t identify as a Republican, but was willing to give his life to fight for Trump.

What evidence do you have of anything you said, or that I’m wrong? OAN said so? Fox? Alex Jones? Just like the homophobic nonsensical red herring story you jumped on that it was a gay lover spat. More nothing from a nothing burger.

bobknight33 said:

MAGA ?????????????????????
What wracked out rag did you read ?

Damn you gullible,, ,Over and over.
Please just stop being fooled..

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Today’s MAGA election fraud news, Eastman’s emails show the fraudulent plan was to lose cases in Georgia, lose in the 11th circuit, and get Thomas to hear their fraudulent voter fraud cases and issue a stay before Jan 6 as a ploy to convince more Republicans to go along with the coup, reject the vote, and (clearly) to encourage the rioters.

They were certain, thanks to Eastman conspiring with his wife, that Thomas would go along with the plan. Somewhat astonishingly, he didn’t jump on it fast enough and the full court rejected the case….good thing they didn’t shop it to Comey or Kavenaugh.

Also, Trump and his lawyers clearly perjured themselves dozens of times in their silly filings and are facing charges in multiple courts.

Bonus- reports are an indictment is in the works because Sydney Powell organized and paid for the fake “raids” on a Georgia election office where election data was stolen by people given access by MAGA operatives (all on security video they thought was off) including some of the fake electors staged in DC as part of the failed Jan 6 coup. Others gained access to steal (and change?) raw election data by impersonating federal agents and threatening workers with arrest if they don’t hand over all data.

Wow, that’s enough today to cover the rest of the weeks daily MAGA fraud reports, see you next week.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Um….what? This stops any state from cheating and requires they send electors for the candidate that won more certified votes.
Today, without the bill, if a State legislature cheats like dozens of Republican legislatures did in 2020, there’s a good chance it’s still official….that’s what you want, the ability for dishonest Republican legislatures to pick the state winner, not voters.
This stops unsubstantiated claims of cheating from being enough to overturn an election…it stops anti democratic frauds like the ones Trumpsters tried in 2020 from being in any way legal.

Are you brain damaged? Democrats wanted the recount, Bush won because it was halted. Gore sued for recounts, Bush sued to stop them. YOU MORONIC IMBICILE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_recount_in_Florida
Holy fucking sheep shit buddy. You have everything totally backwards and upside down. It’s a shock you aren’t dead from shoving steak in your asshole and trying to shit out your neck.

This time Republicans tried to stop the count, not a recount, not a second recount, but the initial count of valid certified votes….also, moron, history lesson..republicans and the conservative court stopped the recount in 2000, not Democrats….after 1/4 of Florida counties failed to complete a legally required machine recount Gore sued for hand recounts and Bush successfully blocked them, that’s why Bush “won” despite not getting more votes. Are you really so insane you think Democrats stopped the recount that had them ahead, handing unearned victory to Bush? You probably are.

Tried to stop the Trump count? What the everloving fuck are you making up now? Clinton conceded the day after the election (after she won with 3 million more votes), no one tried to stop the count, you moronic liar. WHAT!?!

Again…WHAT? What do you mean by the meaningless “if a state cheats”? That’s some meaningless nonsense speak….define this chimeric right wing term. This bill STOPS state legislatures from cheating, ignoring the vote and sending electors they choose. That STOPS cheating, it doesn’t allow it. It also still lets congress to invalidate electors if there’s corruption…but by 2/3 vote not just one.

You’re smoking too much meth again. Derp.

bobknight33 said:

So if a State cheated -Its official?



Democrats tried to stop the Bush count and also the Trump count.

But when Republicans try to stop the Biden count you cry like little bitches.

So now we are at the point that IF a state cheats it counts. Brilliant.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Yesterday, 203 Republicans voted against the bill that Democrats passed in the House which would "amend the 1887 Electoral Count Act to remove any doubt that the vice president's role in counting Electoral College votes is simply ministerial. It would lift the threshold for members of Congress to force a vote on discounting presidential electors from just one member of the House and the Senate each to one-third of both chambers. And it would require governors to send electors to Congress for the candidate who won, based on state law set before Election Day, which cannot be retroactively changed."

Apparently electing the winners of elections is something that Republicans are now unambiguously publicly on the record as being against…which means a majority of your party is purely and undeniably anti democracy.

When will it be too much for you? Ever?


bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

FYI- A Michigan man just murdered his family including his dog (killed his wife and dog, shot his daughter in the face with a shotgun) because he was mad over the election fraud fraud and outraged his family all knew it was delusional nonsense, (apparently even the dog), then he suicided by cops.
Not the first one of you Trumpist nuts who murdered his family over Q insanity.

Nobody killed their family when Clinton only got 3 million more votes than Trump yet “lost” the electoral college (she won the election). That’s because the right is the violent, vitriolic, terroristic, 100% delusional “side”.

Why Geography Makes The US Insanely OP

newtboy says...

Excellent question…and I point out that only Trump spent millions of his own money for a $200k job…and his family made BILLIONS with no exaggeration and no assumptions, guesses, or theories, it’s a proven and under investigation fact. Biden didn’t have tens of millions to spend, his son didn’t either much less billions he’s accused of taking, and his family isn’t directly profiting from being in a nepotistic administration, getting “gifts” from hostile foreign powers in the tens and hundreds of millions, or in Jared’s case, BILLIONS from the Saudis.

Trump exhibits every single tenet of fascism-
WIKI- Fascism - a far-RIGHT, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Sounds exactly like the Trump right to me….and an impossibility for the left since fascism is a far right ideology.

Utter bullshit nonsense. Jan 6 alone, before investigating or prosecuting or housing the criminal terrorists cost over $500 million with 5 dead, for just one day of many far right riots. How much damage and cost has the election fraud fraud with its never ending “investigations” by politically connected organizations with zero experience, destroying entire county wide election systems and invalidating thousands of voting machines brought? How much of the near $40 billion wasted on the border fence that isn’t slowing a single immigrant was just stolen by politically connected groups with zero construction experience who promised to build a wall? If you want to add up costs and damage by party, you can’t then just ignore all costs and damages done by the extreme right/Trumpist fascists.
Now, how much destruction, death, and damage are the right promising to create if Trump is indicted? Pushing their followers to prepare to riot violently should the law be applied to their side while still chanting “lock her up” over Clinton who was only accused of 1% the crimes Trump was caught red handed committing….and you don’t see any hypocrisy, nothing wrong at all with demanding prison for any infraction by political enemies and total blanket immunity for their leaders.

You watch too much far right propaganda (the kind that replayed riot videos from years ago claiming they were of Portland burning daily for months…you must have thought Portland was made of asbestos to still be there to burn after week one of that lie, truth is the Portland “riots” were mostly peaceful and were only about a 4 city block area, not the entire city, something else OAN and FOX neglected to tell you), the kind of far right propaganda that never reported on the far right actors caught shooting crowds, lighting fires, shooting cops, setting bombs, etc. Most arsons, nearly all deaths, and 100% of cop killing and bombings during the 2020 riots (that Trump couldn’t stop but did exacerbate) were caused by proud and boogaloo boys trying false flag attacks. They were caught and prosecuted (or killed) committing crimes and blaming blm. There weren’t many BLM prosecutions and fewer convictions because there was no evidence the BLM activists committed these crimes, unlike the right wingers that were convicted of them…but you weren’t told that on OAN. They were dumb enough to carry manifestos explaining the false flag plans.

Dangerous? Hardly. The right perpetrated every instance of domestic terrorism this decade and last. Death threats at unbelievable levels even to the FBI and DOJ (because you’re idiots), showing up at school board meetings armed and apoplectic, refusing public health laws and making the pandemic 10+ times worse…the right is insane and armed and angry and self righteous and ready and willing to retry the civil war (too dumb to know it was the worst thing that ever happened to America and much worse for the confederacy)….nothing is more dangerous.
Violent? The right has that on lock too, 10/10 top gun murder states are red states. Red counties also have higher gun deaths.
Anti-free speech!?! 😂 Don’t say gay…not a Democratic governmental censorship. No CRT- again, not Democratic censorship or rational. Book banning and burning, again, not the Democrats or left.

“I just admit this is true”? Is this a typo or a brain fart? I did not, and do not “admit” or agree anything you said here is true.

Sorry, friendo, you have everything backwards as usual…based on your FEELINGS, not any facts. You just can’t admit you’ve been so wrong, so instead you continue to be wrong. Grow up. Being an adult means admitting mistakes, something you haven’t done once in the time I’ve known you.

You just can’t and won’t see facts or truth, and insist despite all evidence that your side is peaceful…peaceful gun toting and shooting, stabbing and smashing, Molotov and bomb carrying, don’t back down, no compromise, angry, vitriolic, uncivil, murderous mobs demanding their loser despotic dictator be installed as president for life and death to any opposition….not just on Jan 6 too. Ever since Nov 4 2020, Jan 6 was just one bad day of your normal behavior at Trump’s direction for his benefit….but it failed because you’re all really just cowardly snowflakes that ran at the first gunfire, not strong brave patriots fighting for freedom but weak, scared seditionists fighting for a non democratic dictator.

PS- sounds like Toth Senchal is done, failed to get the shareholder support needed to get an extension on their merger that would have brought funding, so no merger, no $1.5 billion in funding, not going public, >$1.5 million in debt and preparing to stiff their vendors in true Trump style. Another failed Trump venture costing his investors millions and leaving his vendors unpaid as usual. Suckers…what idiot gives Trump credit? No bank will.

PPS - how are you likening the right wing switch from “Trump did nothing wrong, nothing burger” to “There’s nothing in the constitution barring Trump from running for president from prison”? I’ve heard various senators and representatives say that now…not just morons on the street but morons in congress. So deep in the cult you think a president that does business through collect phone calls that are monitored and recorded is a reasonable sacrifice to have Trump back. 🤦‍♂️

PPPS- we just got video of Trump’s lawyers with their tech guy being escorted into Georgia election offices by one of the fake electors at the exact time voting machines and the tabulation systems were illegally breached in that office on Jan 7 21 (the day after the failed coup). This happened in multiple states, illegal breaching of voting systems by Trump’s team, harming the nation irreparably, all at Trump’s direction. Wrong is wrong….at what point is wrong enough to stop supporting wrong. I would say there is no wrong so wrong you would drop Trump, not if he’s caught mid ejaculation in the 6 year old boy he is in the process of electrocuting to death to enhance his own orgasm…you would blame the dead boy, not Trump.

PPPPS- Trump just admitted he’s a serious drug addict, addicted to cocaine, meth, crack, heroin, even fentenal. He did this by accusing Fetterman of all those addictions with zero evidence, which means it’s projection 100% of the time. This you guy, a deranged dope fiend and incestuous pedophile who steals top secret documents and spreads them around his property that’s open to the public. 😂

bobknight33 said:

Like I said all governments are corrupt, even ours. Democrats and Republicans are corrupt. Why would anyone spend millions just to get a 200K $ /yr job?

Trump is not Fascist, just has a large following.
Jan 6 was 1 day of that went sideways.

During Trump years the left burned looted killed many more. The Left are the dangerous side, inciting violence, anti free speech.


You just admit that this is true.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy jokingly says...

Unemployment at historic lows.
Private sector jobs at a record high.
Gas prices dropping for 3 weeks, with a record one day drop yesterday.
Today by executive order opposed the unconstitutional ruling by the activist extremist far right wing judges using every possible methods the DOJ has, including protecting abortion clinics still operating, protecting access to them, protecting access to FDA approved medication in every state, protecting a woman’s right to health care even if she’s pregnant (including if she’s miscarrying), and cracking down on data searches of your private data by data brokers who then sell it to law enforcement without a warrant to determine if you might be pregnant and thinking about abortion.
Edit : now investigating the idea of allowing abortions on federal land, but that only protects providers until the next con president.

Republicans have said if they get control they will enact a national ban on all reproductive rights, outlawing abortion nation wide, outlawing contraception nation wide, and forcing 10 year olds to have daddy’s mutant babies even if it kills them.

Edit: Republicans are also on the docket in the Supreme Court asking that their own state laws don’t constrain them in making state election laws. That’s so they can gerrymander, enact voter ID even if it’s unconstitutional in their state, and so Republican state senators could choose the electors no matter the vote count.

Democratic policies at work trying to save democracy. Thanks Biden. Granted, it’s far from enough pushback against the fascist right, but it better than noth8ng.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

As if you don’t know.

He TRIED to defraud the election, repeatedly, by asking Republicans to “find” him thousands of fake votes and to invalidate millions of valid votes for Biden. He TRIED to defraud the election by pushing over 60 frivolous lawsuits designed to do nothing but destroy confidence in our election system, not because he believes it but because he knows he lost, and assumed some of his appointees would subvert democracy for him. He TRIED to defraud the election by sending fake electors with fake credentials and trying to get Pence to fraudulently certify them instead of the real electors, and he TRIED to send a well armed gun, spear, sword, knife, and bomb toting crowd to violently stop the certification and try to install him as dictator for life.
Each of these is an attempt to overthrow the duly elected government. Don’t you feel dumb for asking? Aren’t you embarrassed you need it explained?
He failed on all counts because he’s an incredibly dumb loser and so are his people….but he made plenty of effort trying to overthrow the government by force when he failed to defraud the election successfully.

Clearly 10000 violent rabid people…you now admit 1/5 of them, exactly 2050, were armed, (oddly specific, what do you know?) the true number is probably more…who couldn’t be stopped by the minimal police presence and severe restrictions on their response that existed (they eventually were stopped with deadly force, but they should have shot the entire crowd the moment they broke through barriers), and Trump refused to deploy more, to call out the national guard, or even tell people to leave….but when it’s BLM peacefully marching unarmed in front of the whitehouse in a public area he was able to deploy military forces without hesitation.

Investigating a murderous mob attacking congress doesn’t make sense to you. (It would if they were liberals). Nothing makes sense to you, that’s the problem with listening to Trump. Either he’s right, or reality is, and you like him better. You really, no kidding, not joking or being smarmy, need serious mental help. You have split from reality and are likely a danger to yourself and others. I know it hurts to admit you are a traitor to your country, but admitting your mistakes is step one towards correcting them, otherwise you just continue to be a traitor and get crazier and crazier defending the indefensible.

So sad, Bobby. Just so sad. That you could even consider asking such a stupid, unAmerican question only proves how anti American you really are.

bobknight33 said:

What did he do to "overthrow" the Government?

You think 10,000 people walking the halls of DC could not be stopped?
How many were armed? 20 50 ?

yea that will do it.

Your reasoning is so skewed, it does not even begin to make sense.

Batting fouls and grounders suck But keep swinging the bat. you might even get a real hit.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

$2.5 million so far on Jan 6. Not $40-60 million, but that would still be worth it. Safeguarding democracy is cheap at that price. Plenty of importance has come to light, but I wouldn’t expect you to know or acknowledge that, you are certainly remaining willfully ignorant of what’s come to light just like mr mushroom tip told you to do, and no one knows what the closed door testimony was yet besides the DOJ.
It cost near $500000000 to safeguard DC in the months after Jan 6…$2.5 million is literally 1/2 of 1% of one cost of Jan 6.

So let’s talk Benghazi, just one report of 13 cost taxpayers $7 million. So far, the Republicans have wasted $22 million on Benghazi, and $100 million total on investigating Clinton with no charges and no revelations of import, and no infractions Trump didn’t repeat.

Right. A concerted effort to perform a violent coup coupled with a second concerted effort to defraud the election using fake electors with forged documentation and a lie about election fraud is, to you, nothing of importance.
Sorry, I find democracy important.
Sorry, I find the constitution to be important.
Sorry, I find treasonous sedition against the union to be important.
I think prosecuting 874 seditious traitors to America and the constitution is important, and i think uncovering who the other appropriately 1100 more are is important.
I think knowing Trump knew his fraudulent voter fraud scheme was illegal before it started is important (since he was declared too stupid to know working with Russia to discredit Clinton was illegal in the past).
I think knowing the voter fraud theory came from something a drunken Giuliani found on Facebook or Twitter with no evidence, before the votes were counted, was important.
I think uncovering the begging for pardons by senators and representatives that planned the coup is important (it’s an admission of guilt and of knowledge of a crime).
I think a Supreme Court judge’s involvement in the coup is important.
That’s barely scratching the surface of important evidence that’s come to light so far.

This….this is why we say you are probably a Russian. You act like defending democracy and the American government are nothing important and nobody cares. No American would think that, but it is true that you SAYING something doesn’t mean you actually think it’s true.

bobknight33 said:

how much has been spent on investigation Trump ? 40 ---- 60 Million and still nothing of importance has come to light.

Wake up from you delusional dream and accept reality.

Joe Biden's Actual "To Do List"

moonsammy says...

...so? Presidents and other national leaders attend a huge variety of functions, and aren't going to want to do a run-through for every single one of them. A brief overview of his role on a note card seems a very pragmatic solution. I do want to point out that it doesn't tell him what to say - the President's staff expects he'll be able to improvise something serviceable. Because he's an intelligent, capable adult human being.

Oh, and that clip of him saying something about "dropped dead unexpectedly" - that looks like stuttering to me. He seemed to be trying to say something else, and just couldn't get it out. His backup word choice was inelegant at best. Stuttering is something Biden's known to have struggled with for most of his life, and generally he handles it very well. Sometimes though he seems to still stumble on something, and this might've been a case of that. Maybe not - maybe he had a total brain fart / senior moment and we should be concerned... but it certainly didn't seem like a noteworthy incident to me.

Meanwhile, in actual important news: the J6 hearings have demonstrated the former President clearly made numerous efforts to remain in power despite having definitely lost in a fair election. (Well, fair in terms of having been run competently and without demonstrable fraud. Trump still had what I consider a significant unfair advantage in that Republicans have an inherent edge via the Electoral College. He just lost the popular vote by MORE this time around, leading to a loss of the EC as well.)

George W. oopsie regarding Ukraine.. Iraq invasion

newtboy says...

Gives the “Mission Accomplished” banner a new meaning…perhaps they meant the mission of making their electorate so fearful and stupid that they would buy any excuse for any atrocity without question. It certainly makes much more sense looked at that way.

Pence Finally Tells The Truth

newtboy says...

Too bad that little insurrection interrupted them from making that case then, isn’t it?
That was the plan, object, have Pence accept and agree with their baseless already litigated and found legally invalid objections to legally certified electors, then have him accept the fraudulent slates of “electors” with their forged fraudulent documents provided by the RNC without allowing for any new objection, and declare Trump president despite his losing the vote and electoral college by a historic landslide….that’s called stealing the office, and is about as anti democratic as government gets. Even Pence sees that clearly, and he’s as sycophantic as they come.
After the failed coup, that evening the sycophants in their gibbering terror dropped their ploy and objections and let Pence move on.
Must be nice to have no memory, it allows such easy rewrites of history and your positions.

Fortunately, one violent Republican subversion of democracy got in the way of another attempted Republican subversion of democracy by fraud, and put Pence in the position of going along with the president’s mob trying to hang him, or follow the law, and the facts, and not join the coup (because it was clear if he did, he would still be hanged come Jan 21st. His actions and words that day make it clear he was certain the president himself was trying to kill him by any means….that’s why he refused to leave congress with the president’s personal secret service team. He feared assasination by Trump.).

Sorry, these quasi legal manuverings have been litigated, you lost. “Can” and “could” being operative words there….the issue being the validity of the challenges. The rights interpretation of the law and their ability to circumvent it has been rejected universally by the courts, because it is blatantly disingenuous and ridiculous, ignoring precedent and historical interpretation in favor of technical loopholes that might be valid if you just ignore the rest of the law and the requirement for honesty in court….like the ploy you describe above.

bobknight33 said:

Pence cannot overturn the election . He just oversees the House according to the Electoral Count Act. If there are objections it also needs a Senate member joining in. Then a challenge can occur and the electoral vote could be changed.

In 2016 there were Democrat house members objections but had no senators support.




In 2020 House members and Senate members had objected. Pence at that point would be obligated to follow the rules set in the Electoral Count Act and allowed the debate, which he did not do.
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/22218058/republicans-objections-election-results

"six Republicans in the Senate and 121 in the House backed objections to certifying Arizona’s electoral outcome, while seven Senate Republicans and 138 House Republicans supported an objection to certifying Pennsylvania’s electoral outcome."

Pence Finally Tells The Truth

bobknight33 says...

Pence cannot overturn the election . He just oversees the House according to the Electoral Count Act. If there are objections it also needs a Senate member joining in. Then a challenge can occur and the electoral vote could be changed.

In 2016 there were Democrat house members objections but had no senators support.




In 2020 House members and Senate members had objected. Pence at that point would be obligated to follow the rules set in the Electoral Count Act and allowed the debate, which he did not do.
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/22218058/republicans-objections-election-results

"six Republicans in the Senate and 121 in the House backed objections to certifying Arizona’s electoral outcome, while seven Senate Republicans and 138 House Republicans supported an objection to certifying Pennsylvania’s electoral outcome."

Biden’s first year as President: A Beatles remix

newtboy says...

You’re right, it was a GREAT year for Joe, America’s economy, and pocketbooks. The best gdp growth in decades (CDGDP up 10%), amazing jobs numbers (6.4 million!), and the fastest stock market rise that put money in even your wallet.
2020 was the no good very bad year where jobs, gdp, and the stock market plummeted like never before.
Such a dumb tool, Bob. “Democrats are awful, Trump is great….reality be damned.”

Forget 22 and 24….Biden is going to use Trump’s plans, so no vote totals ever, sieze voting machines before tabulation, claim all Republican votes are fraudulent and discard them, and use the military to crush any dissent. If that doesn’t work, Kamala will just certify the alternate electors and they’ll vote for Biden. Perfectly legal, moral, ethical, and democratic right? Enjoy, you already say that’s totally reasonable and legal. Turnabout is always fair play. D’oh

bobknight33 said:

Not a good year for Joe.

Not a good year for the American pocketbook.



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