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Why Border Security is needed

newtboy says...

This is why we need a functioning immigration system, like we had before the felon’s first term, not why we need to defund immigration courts, not why we should halt asylum and refugee programs, not why we need to defund the border patrol like Republicans voted for.

The $20 million of taxpayer money used to go to the Super Bowl could have been spent hiring 400 border agents for an entire year! Or 100 immigration judges, either of which could make a noticeable positive difference. The $10 million spent on golf so far, another 200/50. The $1 million per military flight (instead of $8k per immigration flight) could have funded a thousand more border agents or 250 judges. That’s 1600 border agents or 400 judges not hired, not protecting the border, and every penny spent to pay for one man’s entertainment for 3 weeks. So much for eliminating waste or trying to fix the problem.
If doge was looking for waste or fraud, they would have hit the office of the president first, that is where the biggest wastes and frauds are.

Everything he complained about is a direct result of Republicans policy, not one bit from what Democrats voted for or implemented. Nothing the Republicans have done has helped stem the tide at all, except for destroying the economy which had many return home in 2020 for work. They voted against more border control, against better immigration courts, and against working with our neighbors instead of against them.
What keeps enticing immigrants from South America, and they’ve been 100% clear, open, and honest about it whenever they are asked, is Republicans politicians on TV every single day saying the US border is wide open, and that gets shown in their countries. Every time they say “open borders” 1000 immigrants say “woo hoo, let’s go!”.
*lies
*fail

Trump Closes the border.

newtboy says...

Inflation already exploding maybe double digits already. Suddenly maga says “inflation is patriotic”

Gas prices are spiking. Grocery prices spiking double digits, eggs $12! Stock market crashing. China’s international trade pact has gained a dozen (40) nations with all central and South America in talks while they consider trade war with America while switching from using the dollar to using the yuan.

Unemployment exploding unbelievably. Crops rotting in fields because there’s no one to harvest them. Hiring frozen.

Ukraine war still in full effect, with 6 more on the horizon thanks to threats.

We quit the WHO and closed our pandemic response team (again) and forced all public health agencies to stop communicating with the public right as bird flu is emerging as a pandemic.

Child pornographers, the biggest/most prolific drug dealer ever in America who assassinated his rivals, and over 1500 more violent cop killing thugs released from prison to reek havoc across America, many already rearrested for violent armed crimes, one got in a shootout with police and died.

Just 8 days in, and the nation is completely crumbling, the rule of law gone, the economy in freefall, a pandemic starting. The president is on vacation.

If you voted for this and you love America, you should eat your gun.

Trump Closes the border.

newtboy says...

By decree, he has also claimed to have ended FEMA, saying states should take care of themselves, not each other. The south is doomed….California will just withhold federal taxes and pay for itself, and save tens of billions of dollars per year that way, Louisiana alone will be $10 billion per year in the hole or more. All southern states are “takers” from the fed… Enjoy.

Eggs are $9 already and skyrocketing and he completely abandoned the promise to lower grocery prices, now says it’s impossible.

When told his policies are already crashing the economy on live TV by Hannity he answered “I don’t care”.

We will be in a depression this summer, and a real military invasion by Xmas (unless he hands Alaska to Russia and Hawaii to China).

His first plan to stop the Ukraine war….tell Putin he is planning tariffs and sanctions on anything Russia sells the U.S. (clearly not knowing they’ve been in effect for years already, and that Russia hasn’t sold anything to the US in years).

Pardoned more terrorists including those who pleaded guilty to treason/sedition and violence against police.
Some were re-arrested for more violent felonies they committed under a day after release. He invited these convicted anti American criminal thugs to the Whitehouse.
This is exactly what he did in 2020 in Afghanistan before handing the country to the criminal terrorist Taliban (yes, he even invited Taliban leaders to Camp David and the Whitehouse)…a group he seems to look up to. Thank goodness some judges refuse to dismiss with prejudice so they can be retried if law and order ever return to America….unlikely.

Once again, he already dismantled our pandemic response team right as bird flu is emerging in America, and decreed our health agencies cannot make any statements or recommendations but must keep silent and useless. Buy PPE!

His plans to deport every undocumented alien are estimated to cost multiple trillions per year directly just to try and cost the economy up to another $10 trillion per year in lost production…absolutely devastating and turning us into a third world nation overnight.

Is there peace in Ukraine yet? His new stated plan is to ask President Xi of China who is supplying Russia with military equipment and ammo to solve it for him. Russia is publicly mocking him and Smelania (by broadcasting her soft core porn constantly), laughing at his “threats” and giddy at their luck that Biden is gone and their cucked boy is back.

Shocker, these decrees are all directly from project 2025, written by the project 2025 committees, and many Trump doesn’t know what he’s signing since he wasn’t involved in drafting the orders….exactly as we knew would happen.

UPDATE: Decree #1, ending birthright citizenship, shut down by a Republican judge with a hilarious rebuke.

Also fun, 75% of farm workers didn’t show up to work this week. Harvests are essentially cancelled. Prepare for double digit inflation at the grocery store in short order. $9 eggs is just a start.

Visit California: It's America's Future

newtboy says...

Yep. It’s awful. A total anarchic hell scape everywhere. Believe it all. Stay away. Nobody wants to live HERE.

Don’t come begging for a handout red states. You insist California is a failed economy, we should start taking more from the federal budget than we contribute just like you have for decades. (California pays around $400 BILLION in federal taxes and gets about $140 BILLION back every year, meaning we provide about $260 BILLION in “welfare” to other (red) states yearly)

Ben Stein - - Ferris Bueller's Day Off

newtboy says...

*doublepromote a *quality and pertinent bit of information I wish more people learned in school.
Tariffs don’t stimulate economies, they stifle them and start trade wars that are always losers for consumers, they add a national sales tax to any tariffed imports, and the countries targeted always reciprocate making it hard or impossible to compete on the international markets and hurting American companies.
Our last Trump tariff/trade war with China was a horrific failure costing hundreds of billions of dollars, hurting American farmers (had to bail them out for $50 billion more and thousands closed shop), manufacturing, supply lines, and consumers…all for absolutely nothing gained.
Get ready for round 2 to feel like Glass Joe was replaced with Tyson…up to 200% tariffs across the board are going to absolutely destroy the economy in extremely short order.

Also Ben Stein’s birthday

Stocks Are The Most Overpriced In 100 Years | Danielle Park

newtboy says...

Any attempt to deflect blame from the upcoming disaster of Trump’s economy to the man who averted a guaranteed depression and created an economic boom that’s the envy of the entire planet and record low unemployment numbers his entire tenure gets an automatic downvote.

Henrik Zeberg On U.S. Markets - It's Going To Get Ugly

newtboy says...

You cite well known and untrustworthy, alarmist, constant crash predicting, conspiracy theory spreading, alt right, Russian propaganda outlet Zero Hedge as your best source!?! 😂 😂 😂
Must be true then, no need to look into it further.

“ We rate ZeroHedge an extreme right-biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left.” - media bias fact-check
“ US intelligence officials on Tuesday accused a conservative financial news website with a significant American readership, Zero Hedge, of amplifying Kremlin propaganda.” - Bloomberg
“Ad Fontes Media rates ZeroHedge in the Strong Right category of bias and as Unreliable, Problematic in terms of reliability.” - Ad Fontes Media
“Wallace-Wells observed that the site demonstrated a pro-Russia bias, stating the site had a "pointed" Russophilia.” - Wikipedia

You are such a willing liar….I don’t believe you actually believe 10% of what you post. How much has Russia paid you this year for your nonsense?

It’s hilarious you still spout the “these numbers will be revised” stupidity despite all the revisions this summer being revised UP…BETTER numbers in reality than those you said were fake, fantastical, pie in the sky dreams. The economy is booming by every measure, and a real boom, not some fake phantom on paper only boom, you just need an excuse for when Dumb Donny crashes it by springtime and are willing to believe any idiocy that will support that need. Didn’t you say just a month ago something stupid like 100% of new jobs created went to undocumented aliens? Now you want to try the stupid lie that they are 100% fake government jobs created solely to fake the numbers!?! 😂
Have you heard you?

bobknight33 said:

From Zero hedge article.


"They Just Got Handed Fraudulent Books" - Ed Dowd Confirms Our Warning That Trump Is 'Inheriting A Turd Of An Economy'

Former Wall Street money manager Ed Dowd is a skillful financial analyst who said in May the economy was skidding. Now, Dowd predicts the economy is poised to “roll over” and soon.

"I have never seen such blatant manipulation of government statistics.

There is government spending and government hiring to paper over what is truly a bad economy for the average man. When I was asked prior to the election who do you think will win the election, I said Trump has already won, according to the economic statistics. That’s why he won. Bobby Kennedy helped along with Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, lots of people switching and what have you. What really got Trump in was the economy, the real economy, not the stock market.

It was not the ‘everything is hunky-dory’ pablum from the mainstream media.

The real economy has been rolling over, and we are just waiting for the financial markets to figure this out.

When they do, Trump is going to inherit a turd of a financial market crisis.

Government statistics will be updated, and it will show we started a recession sometime this year...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-just-got-handed-fraudulent-books-ed-dowd-warns-trump-inheriting-turd-economy

Henrik Zeberg On U.S. Markets - It's Going To Get Ugly

bobknight33 says...

From Zero hedge article.


"They Just Got Handed Fraudulent Books" - Ed Dowd Confirms Our Warning That Trump Is 'Inheriting A Turd Of An Economy'

Former Wall Street money manager Ed Dowd is a skillful financial analyst who said in May the economy was skidding. Now, Dowd predicts the economy is poised to “roll over” and soon.

"I have never seen such blatant manipulation of government statistics.

There is government spending and government hiring to paper over what is truly a bad economy for the average man. When I was asked prior to the election who do you think will win the election, I said Trump has already won, according to the economic statistics. That’s why he won. Bobby Kennedy helped along with Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, lots of people switching and what have you. What really got Trump in was the economy, the real economy, not the stock market.

It was not the ‘everything is hunky-dory’ pablum from the mainstream media.

The real economy has been rolling over, and we are just waiting for the financial markets to figure this out.

When they do, Trump is going to inherit a turd of a financial market crisis.

Government statistics will be updated, and it will show we started a recession sometime this year...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-just-got-handed-fraudulent-books-ed-dowd-warns-trump-inheriting-turd-economy

newtboy said:

TLDW- I wouldn’t believe anyone who’s going to pre-blame Biden for next summers planned recession/depression anyway.

The people who will be in charge like Elon and Trump say their plans will likely cause a depression next summer….believe them.
If they deport 10% what they say they will, it will cause a depression, and explode the debt.
If they enact the tariffs they say they will, it will cause a depression and a trade war.
If they end the ACA without a replacement (but we have a concept of a plan for thinking about a replacement…in two weeks) it will cause a depression and public health crisis.

Markets rode consistent record highs under Biden. America decided it was tired of winning.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Your evidence?
Russian bloggers on twitter?
Beyoncé, Lizzo, Megan, Eminem, the Harris campaign and official campaign financial records all say it’s 100% bullshit spread from Twitter accounts.
You bought and repeated another stupid lie without checking it out, because you don’t care if it’s true you just love to talk shit like a spoiled little girl.

The Harris campaign, as of Oct. 17, lists only one endorsement-related expenditure — for $75 — in its Federal Election Commission financial reports. It was made to the League of Conservation Voters, a pro-environment nonprofit, in June, when President Joe Biden was still running for reelection.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/10/posts-make-unfounded-claim-about-beyonces-endorsement-of-harris/
Sorry, not sorry, liar, another stupid lie debunked as soon as you spout it.

Why is it that you continue to buy every stupid lie you’re sold and never are embarrassed or apologetic when your stupid insulting lies are proven to be lies? Must be because you have no morals or ethics left, and we’re never smart.


By comparison….
The felon’s campaign finance records showed he had to pay actors to pretend to be auto workers, union workers, blacks for Trump, etc…paid people to show up at his rallies and post a picture to prove it, etc…Elon had to pay millions for votes (and is being accused of hacking the election using Starlink to edit the data it transmitted, then crashing the satellite to erase the evidence…14 million missing votes, recounts started!)…every single relationship he’s ever had including familial has been transactional.
If you actually had a problem with that, you wouldn’t support the felon who only has paid spokespeople who make millions themselves…parking lot attorney Alina Habba?!? How many millions did she get paid?
Even Melania had to get paid $250000 to stoop to speaking for 15 minutes to support her husband.

THAT is a LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!

You also have conceded that you expect every metric of the economy to be worse under Trump than it has been under Biden, you can’t come up with a single measure you expect to improve in the next 4 years…and have telegraphed your nonsensical intent to blame Biden for Trump’s economy and accept no blame despite holding full control of all 3 branches of government. If only your people had been honest about that before the election things would be different.

bobknight33 said:

Kamala paid Beyoncé $10 MILLION to publicly support her!!!

$5 MILLION for Megan Thee Stallion
$3 MILLION for Lizzo
$1.8 MILLION for Eminem

These fake relationships is what you guys wanted in the government? People paying people to act like they like each other.

A Billion $ campaign and she still LOST.

That is a LOSER!!!!!!!!!!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You have said for a while that Bidenomics failed America despite the amazing positive economic numbers that outpaced every other economic covid recovery in the world, and have predicted a crash since Jan 21 2021…
…but have been saying “ The next POTUS will be hit hard with failing economy, thanks to Bidinomics.” for only 6 days now, followed by ridiculous fake economic numbers like a fake loss of 28000 jobs in October when there was an addition of 12000 in reality (still the worst since Trump), and comparing that to pre-pandemic numbers because you need to forget Trump’s entire last year to make his numbers acceptable or superior….Biden only created 12000 this one month, his worst….how many did Trump LOSE in his worst month? He lost around 9 million in 2020, and 3.5 million over his presidency. THE WORST JOBS RECORD IN HISTORY. Even if you forget the over 9 million Trump lost in 2020, Biden still created 2 1/2 times as many jobs in 4 years at 14-16 million to Trump’s just over 6.
Then there’s GDP , which again is no contest unless you forget 2020.
Previously you have claimed only a Trump presidency would avert a recession/depression, and a Biden, then Harris administration was a guaranteed depression and market crash….exactly the same as you said in 2020. Now that he has a second term with full control of all 3 branches of government, you say of course he can’t avert a depression and the economy will do a full 180 from the consistent positive growth numbers under Biden and when he takes over it will crash fast, but it will be Biden’s fault. I’m not surprised even a little. You never once have accepted reality or a whit of responsibility.
Reality is the economy crashed badly under Trump and the debt ballooned, the worst economic crash in our lifetimes by far with most jobs lost and biggest deficit and a million dead, and rebounded under Biden with half the added debt despite being handed the already crashed and sinking fast economy. Now Trump gets a second shot with a healthy economy and numbers trending up, I bet he turns it around again.

It seems you agree, he’s going to tank the currently very healthy economy and put us in a depression, you just want to blame someone else who is not in charge when it happens.

bobknight33 said:

Such a stupit twat you are.

I'ver been saying for a while that Bidenomics has failed Americans and will cause a crash under nest POTUS.

Look at the economic posts I've sent you. Crash and burn

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Bwaaahahaha! That’s absolutely not what you said, you said it will be great under the felon, booming all the time, everything will be amazingly better in every way…or crash immediately under Harris (just like you said in 2016 and 2020)….hypocritically hilarious that now you admit he will tank it. 😂

Also hilarious you want zero responsibility despite having 100% control….or it would be hilarious if your party wasn’t led by an infantile fascist with unregulated power and immunity for ignoring the constitution on a vendetta against over half the country.

The Biden economy is the envy of the entire world and far better than the first Trump economy unless you erase all his losses and only count successes. It is growing, not shrinking, manufacturing, gdp, jobs, wages, and earning power are ALL growing, deficit, inflation and interest shrinking..and every other metric is moving in a positive direction under Biden including the deficit. That will not continue under the bankrupter in chief. Hide and watch. He will double the debt and we will have nothing to show for it but another negative gdp.

GDP, stock markets, profits, jobs stupid, infrastructure, all measurably and significantly better under Biden than the felon, all better under Biden even erasing the omnibus disaster that was 2020 under Trump.

I blamed Trump for year 1 of Bidenomics because he kept most Trump policies, just as I will blame Bidenomics for the first 6 months to 1 year of Trumpenomics (depending on what he changes and how fast).

I just gave you the clear undisputed starting point numbers. Just like in 2016. I would bet whatever you want that, again, they will be worse after 4 years, but you Welch on bets so I’ll just make you a gentleman’s bet, those and all other economic numbers (except the personal wealth of the top 1%) will be worse in 4 years.

If he follows through with the mass deportations, that will trigger a depression.
If he kills the ACA with just a concept of a replacement, it will trigger a recession.
If he enacts 20% tariffs on imports, it will trigger a recession, followed by a trade war, followed by a global depression.
If he withholds federal funding from blue states as he has threatened, it will trigger a civil war.
The first tump administration was a slow train wreck (with a few actual train wrecks thrown in), the Biden administration has been a slow cleanup of that wreck…admittedly far too slow. The next 4 years are poised to be an ELE size meteor strike, making us wish for those halcion days of deregulated chemical train wrecks.

Yes. Never bet against the prejudices and stupidity of the average voter. Think how stupid the average person is, then realize fully half are actually stupider than that.

bobknight33 said:

Economic # will get worse, as I've said, regardless of who is POTUS.
It s slow motion train wreck , thanks to Bidenomics.

But go ahead blame trump.
I told you so.

Dems got their ass whooped . What an election night it was.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Ball’s going to be 100% in your court…so no excuses…

https://yt3.ggpht.com/2NBLmEiGoKaIJg5rtp2ImLGE4G3tMpa0SIYaG1TjPLN1vTl6fk3AcshBWYa_x2UfKX0KWNuVPTzsgBY=s1600-nd-v1
We should also be able to file our taxes on a 3x5 index card, a major 1st term promise he ignored.

The current economic numbers, watch them all get worse.
https://yt3.ggpht.com/GFdWJNiqJcTIku4RIo0htdWLgIAUPbDgPoWaIGYweoPHwbkLvJfSJwR0Dl_FyPnGRB3oHfRrDEtGvg=s1290-nd-v1

If he pulls it all off, I will give him/republicans credit. I know what I expect, and if America becomes a fascist dictatorial autocracy and/or faux democracy like Russia (with an “election” but no choice, with a failed economy and few allies) I will give him/them 100% of the blame, and the blame for the resulting collapse and civil war.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

I thought you wouldn’t be able to pin yourself down on any way the next 4 years will be “better”…I was 100% correct.

You might note he and Musk have admitted their economic plan will lead to a depression by next summer, they just think they can rebuild better after they destroy the economy.

Shocker…all maga advisors have already come out to say “yes, project 2025 is real and is our actual agenda.”
Anyone with a brain knew it, sadly that’s only about 1/4 of America. Well…248 years of democracy is still a pretty good record. It would have been nice to see 250 though.

Any Latinos who voted for him are about to find out that even naturalized citizens aren’t safe from their plan…worried?….Puerto Ricans aren’t even safe (recall he wants to “trade” PR for Greenland, and has plans to return Alaska to Russia). It’s going to be interesting times, especially for non white males.
I wonder what his plans for Hawaii are. Are they going to be Chinese in 2 years?

bobknight33 said:

‘Meaningless nonsense I can’t stand behind’

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

I would like you to pin down EXACTLY how it will be “better”…because the economy was better under Biden, health was better under Biden, crime was better under Biden, deficit was better under Biden….so how EXACTLY will it be better, and pick something that is measured like crime or gdp or unemployment or average lifespan or the stock market, not something ephemeral based on your feelings. Then we can take today’s (or Jan 19ths) measure and see how 2, then 4 years change it. I doubt you’re prepared to stand by your statement, prove me wrong.

Once again, all the looting, burning, bombing, and shootings were right wing nutjobs, just like the two attempted assassins and all the violent Jan 6 insurrectionists. This will definitely embolden them. They may continue to pretend to be left wingers, like the Boogaloo boys did during the 2020 BLM protests, or they may finally feel secure enough to be honest about who they are and what they stand for (like the Boogaloo boys were in their written manifesto only found when they were caught after setting off bombs and shooting cops and blaming BLM).

The media has been on the felon’s side this election, sane washing him daily while scrutinizing her every syllable. Why do you expect a reversal? They’ve been bought by right wing billionaires and are still under threat of losing their license if they don’t pretend the felon is a virile genius superman who does literally everything right.

bobknight33 said:

Nope it will be a better 4 years than Bidens, But we ill have leftest lunatics with media stoking the flames of discontent. Just like last time.


Losers like you will drink it up --

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

The economy is doing excellent thanks to Bidenomics. He inherited a failing economy with a negative gdp and record unemployment and record numbers of businesses failing thanks to Trumpenomics. Even inflation is the best in the free world and has been for a long time, and it was your one bad metric to pint to….now you’ve got nothing. 😂

The economy reportedly added 12000 jobs in Oct, a disappointment but hardly the loss you claim….liar. It is the worst month under Biden so far, but heaven compared to the Trump negative numbers.

Some other unknown metric is also now temporarily the lowest it’s been since Trump….HAHAHAHA! You are so incredibly stupid. I bet you don’t know how you ended up eating shit there.

These other numbers are just as fantastical and fantasy.

The economy has added over 16.5 million jobs under Biden, more than every single Republican administration combined even if you remove Trumps disastrous record of LOSING 3 million jobs over his administrations tenure. Such a drop in jobs has never been seen outside of war time.

Who lied to you and told you he lost private sector jobs? Why are you so gullible and incapable of typing into google to see if Pravda is telling the truth (as if you need to)?
Trump lost private sector jobs, 3 million of them. Biden added 16.5 million of them…so because you can’t accept he succeeded you pretend they are all crap jobs with zero evidence and only Russian propaganda to regurgitate. 😂

Enjoy Vlad. Daddy Trump isn’t coming to save mother Russia, Momala Kamala is coming to spank you hard and long then give your toys to Ukraine.

bobknight33 said:

The next POTUS will be hit hard with failing economy, thanks to Bidinomics.

The US economy lost -28,000 private jobs in October, the first net loss since December 2020.

The 3-month moving average has declined to 67,000, the lowest since the 2020 pandemic.

This is well below the average of 150,000 monthly private payroll additions seen in 2018-2019, prior to the pandemic.

The worst part?

Full-time private sector jobs have dropped by a whopping 1.5 MILLION year-over-year.

Such a drop in full-time private jobs has never been seen outside of recessions.



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