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Tesla is Crushing GM & Ford Financially

newtboy says...

So, they’re only $6 billion in the hole and are just getting competition from the big 3.
Where’s that Tesla truck?
Stock/corporate value dropped by over half in the last year.

Tesla is under multiple criminal investigations for self driving autopilot failures causing deaths….a main selling point that may be outlawed soon.

Tesla made more profit because they reinvested much less….multiple billions less. Not a good sign in an industry based on engineering advancements. Sounds like they know a hammer is coming and are going for maximizing short term profit at the expense of long term viability.
Their massive capitol expenditures were largely losses at their plants they can’t get to profitable production levels yet, like China, not building more gigafactories. If the highly automated factories (explaining the higher profit per employee despite fewer vehicles produced per employee) you have can’t get parts to make cars, making more factories would be stupid. GM and Ford are building newer highly automated factories, and have cut in line at Chinese chip manufacturers because they order more chips. Supply shortages continue to plague Tesla.


Sorry, Bob, your track record of investment advice is horrendous. You said go all in on Tesla at $400! You said buy more and hold onto it for the long term as it plunged to 135 and as you were selling yours. Now you claim Tesla is crushing GM and Ford while it’s still DEEP in debt and losing customers and not reinvesting in itself. Couldn’t be you’re lying for personal gain….could it?

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

He paid back one near $500 million loan early, but not the billions in subsidies that made Tesla and Elon’s other companies possible….but continues to argue that others should not get the benefit of the same helping government hands he used to become a billionaire.
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-list-government-subsidies-tesla-billions-spacex-solarcity-2021-12

bobknight33 said:

If memory serves me correct that was back a decade ago and they paid it back. FYI Ford and or GM also took the cheese , about 11 billion.. They did not pay it back.

Hand out are wrong --- Just like the Inflation deduction act -- Just gov cheese buying votes / keeping .. Also it does not reduce inflation - opposite

Psaki Shows How To Handle "People Are Saying" Questions

newtboy says...

Following in OAN’s footsteps, Newsmax was removed from ALL DirecTV and ATT platforms today.



They immediately whined “censorship” and theorized some fantasy liberal conspiracy between ATT and Biden who personally caused this….somehow….and don’t want to think it could be because their beloved free market demanded it because they have NEVER actually made money, were given a sweetheart corporate welfare deal to give them a chance, and now that the deal is up they actually tried to insist ATT PAY THEM to keep them on air like they do the most popular networks that bring in millions in advertising revenue….and also they might be a liability when the bankrupt network has a billion dollar plus judgement against them if ATT continues to fund them.

EMTs charged with murder

newtboy says...

Full disclosure, I’m not an EMT, but I do know it takes SOME medical training to be one, and it takes absolutely none to know slamming a near unconscious person in full body physical distress with full force on their face then strapping them face down across the chest so hard it asphyxiates them is something a layman with zero medical training knows is not proper or acceptable or even safe treatment.
This wasn’t a case of being tired or inattentive, IMO….it was a case of, for whatever reason, them being put out and clearly enraged at having to help a black man in full blown alcohol withdrawals, and treating him as a sub human inconvenience rather than a distressed patient needing help.

It varies by state, but in California where I live…. California EMT programs are at least 160 hours and include at least 136 hours of didactic training and at least 24 hours of clinical training. The individual must have 10 patient contacts. An EMT who continues training at the AEMT level must meet additional prerequisites.

noims said:

I was going to start off saying that the whole concept of a private ambulance company - an essential service run for profit that so obviously benefits the wealthy over the poor - is so alien to me that it feels wrong to my core.

Then I read your comment and thought that the training really is at the heart of this. Were they sufficiently trained and managed to know that this could/would kill?

This is not a rhetorical question.

If they were paid little and/or forced to work long shifts so they're facing this while tired enough not to think/care, then I blame the company and, by association, the system. If they were well trained and had no genuine excuse (rather than reason) for their behaviour then I blame them.

The reality probably isn't as cut-and-dried as I present it above, but there's definitely a spectrum of blame to be considered.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Exactly the non-answer know nothing twaddle I expect from you, even when you are warned against such stupid vapid nonsense that only indicates you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about, as usual, and are just regurgitating propaganda as best you can, which is pretty damn bad because you clearly don’t understand it.

Prices will go up….by 1/1400 of one cent per gallon? Little boy, you are such a troll with nothing to say….and you’re undoubtedly wrong as usual.

In total under Biden 180 million barrels have been released, most over the summers when prices spike. Under 16 days worth over 730 days. In Oct he announced the final release…10-15 million barrels, through the end of the year. .8 - 1.2 days worth over 90 days. Barely over 1% of demand maximum. If you think that dramatically changes prices at the pump, you’re dumber that you sound….which is unbelievable.

Meanwhile, oil company profits have tripled from pre pandemic levels after a few oil companies had 2 bad quarters in 2019- 2020. They recovered their losses and then some in 2021, 2022 they raked America over the coals, intentionally creating shortages while their profits skyrocketed.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/wrapup-global-oil-giants-rake-massive-profits-third-quarter-2022-10-28/

Tapping the strategic petroleum reserve was never about lowering prices, it was about showing he was trying everything to lower them as they rose worldwide faster than in America. It was a political show to stop the Cons from claiming he was doing nothing as they blocked every legislative move he tried. It would never make a noticeable difference by itself.

What will happen to gas prices, I expect they’ll continue to fall precipitously like they have since June because 1) our supply has returned to close to normal and 2) we are in winter, when natural gas price rises and gasoline drops EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Duh.

The quality of your trolling has depreciated noticeably since your numerous political and financial losses piled up. What’s wrong? Are your handlers too busy preparing their defenses, and looking for new networks, to spoon feed you today’s fabricated Con positions?

bobknight33 said:

Biden is using the SPR which has lower prices. by stopping its use prices will go up.
There is no long dissertation needed. It is simple supply and demand -little man



So what do you think?
When the SPR is depleted or stopped being used what do you think will happen to gas prices?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

He’s already said he won’t step down, and has gop support. They can’t very well remove him for lying and stay themselves. there’s no way in hell the GOP thinks him lying about literally everything but his name (and has anyone checked on that?) is more important than his expected MAGA vote.

That’s good you cashed out, but absolutely disgusting that you continued to suggest others buy while you were cashing out. If you told the truth and were still buying at 400 for the long haul last year like you were shouting to anyone who would listen, you lost at least 1/3-1/2 your investment by selling around 200. If you had listened to many here instead of obstinately contradicting all advice, you would have doubled what you got out.

Just last week you were saying I was wrong when I said it was going to crash. You said it was a great time to buy. It’s crash has nothing to do with an imaginary recession and little to do with fed rate hikes, it’s pure mismanagement that tanked them. Tesla has crashed twice as hard as average car companies.

Wait….are you suddenly saying severe covid restrictions by China were lifesaving and absolutely the right thing? …and now that they’re lifting expect major disruptions and death? Who is this?

Amazon got hit, I don’t know why, I don’t have any (but might grab some) so haven’t watched it. Meta was never going to succeed, it was an idiotic idea to retry “second life” with billions invested and no demand.

Many growth stocks are growing. My portfolio is growing, not crashing.

Again, there’s no recession. You just want to pretend there’s one to blame Biden. GDP grew 3.2% in q3 and is expected to be 3.7% q4.

bobknight33 said:

Santos and all need to be vetted. Let him step down. America has enough elected lairs.


I sold 1/2 of Tesla at 240 , a lot more at 204 and the rest at 190. So I'm just in cash. If I were to by at today price I would obtain just about 2x the number of shares I sold.


Tesla down 11% today and IMO will continue to fall. Yet to see the up coming recession Q1 Q2, Yet to see implications of all the Fed Rate hikes. Should see this start to appear on upcoming Q4 results.

Now that China has lifted restrictions Mass Covid infections and deaths. This will also affect global economy.

Tesla is not the only getting the snot beaten out of them. Amazon , Meta and all others taken hits. Growth stock getting harder.

This is a great opportunity. Take advantage of this upcoming recession and buy you favorite stock at steep discount.

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

Santos and all need to be vetted. Let him step down. America has enough elected lairs.


I sold 1/2 of Tesla at 240 , a lot more at 204 and the rest at 190. So I'm just in cash. If I were to by at today price I would obtain just about 2x the number of shares I sold.


Tesla down 11% today and IMO will continue to fall. Yet to see the up coming recession Q1 Q2, Yet to see implications of all the Fed Rate hikes. Should see this start to appear on upcoming Q4 results.

Now that China has lifted restrictions Mass Covid infections and deaths. This will also affect global economy.

Tesla is not the only getting the snot beaten out of them. Amazon , Meta and all others taken hits. Growth stock getting harder.

This is a great opportunity. Take advantage of this upcoming recession and buy you favorite stock at steep discount.

newtboy said:

Santos has now admitted everything he claimed about himself was an outright lie.
He never worked for the companies he claimed.
He never graduated from anywhere.
His grandparents didn’t flee the holocaust.
His animal rescue charity is a total fraud that never rescued animals.
He was homeless, pennyless, and jobless, then 1 year later somehow loaned his campaign $700000 he claimed he made running a family real estate company that owns no real estate and has no clients.
And don’t forget he’s actually in real life a fugitive from Brazil that stole check books from the elderly invalids his mother cared for and bankrupted them by stealing all their money.
Guaranteed no Republican/MAGgot thinks any of that disqualifies him in any way, but would be absolutely insistent he never be sworn in if it were a Democrat lying about any one of these things.
More MAGA lies and liars, more MAGA criminals. Everyone of you is a liar, every single thing you say is a lie or at best delusional.

Tesla’s down ANOTHER 8% today. Oof.

JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

He said it was a great buy, go all in at 400+….continuing to say it’s a great buy down through 150….it’s now 123 and crashing but still over 38PE. I think it becomes a reasonable buy by today’s standards at around 65-70 and finally a good buy at just under 50….but only if you think it will survive, which is no longer a certainty at all.
Ouch.

He also claimed the quasi “recession” was all Biden’s fault…suddenly now it’s global, so not Tesla’s fault they’re crashing and burning. Pick a lane.

He said compare it to Amazon….so I did. YTD Amazon is down almost 50%….but Tesla is down 70% . I guess he didn’t think you would look.

JiggaJonson said:

Oh? Would you like a link to the comment where you Saud to buy followed by the stock tanking further before?

If I were you I'd stop politically investing in a traitor.

Beauty Contestant Shocked By Microphone

newtboy says...

Good move continuing on, I’m sure she’ll get points for that alone.
I did notice that when she returned she did not touch the microphone or the stand. Also a smart decision.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

No, bob. I have never claimed any “side” is anywhere near perfect…except by comparison to Righties.

You, on the other hand, claim the Democratic Party is the party of debauchery, destruction, and death despite every recent example being Republican and every accusation you make turning out to be nothing but an admission of your own “side’s” guilt.

It’s nice you SAY you support weeding out bad on ALL sides, but your daily rhetoric and constant and continuing support of multiple bad actors contradicts that statement.

bobknight33 said:

Good for the FBI.

Weed out bad on all sides.

Sadly you only see 1 side. you side is Holy perfect.

Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones Blocking School Integration

newtboy says...

Ashley Babbitt.




To you, no, because blatant racism is a nothing burger to you. That’s been well established. Racists never care about blatant racism.

To non racist cultists, yes, being one of the students that beat black kids for daring to want an education, and continuing that blatant vitriolic racism for over 1/2 a century while owning a business whose profitable employees and product are mostly black (except for management which is nearly 100% white) matters.

🤦‍♂️

bobknight33 said:

Can this be any more of a non story?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Today’s MAGA fraud,
Dan Crenshaw coming out publicly, finally, to admit the big lie was always a lie that those spreading knew was a lie but was continued because “people just needed one last hurrah, they needed to feel like we fought one last time.” “behind closed doors we all knew it was lies and said so”.

Arizona Republicans Attacking People Trying To Vote

newtboy says...

These anonymous, masked, heavily armed, violent, abusive, accusatory terrorists have now been barred by a federal judge from continuing their blatant voter intimidation tactics.

Their leader has been forced to retract her lies…she had been claiming anyone dropping more than one vote is absolutely stuffing ballot boxes illegally, a mule, and proof of voter fraud, all outright lies, had to say specifically that it’s perfectly legal to drop off for others in many circumstances, and had to actually post the AZ law on all her social media pages. Armed thugs, and wearing body armor is now restricted by 250ft from boxes, and the terrorists may not contact voters unless the voter initiates contact (that includes yelling “mule”).

Every one should be identified for public retribution. That’s exactly what they were doing to legal voters for voting legally, except they were labeling those innocent citizens as vote fraud perpetrators when identified, intentionally identifying them for people like the failed Pelosi assassin, so turn about is fair play, identify them as child molesters using playground pictures as the background for their headshots.
Snitches get stitches…terrorists get torn apart. These are terrorists.

I’m certain their employers wouldn’t want to be connected to them. Someone please dox these terrorist assholes.

bobknight33 said:

Watching voting boxes from afar .. non story

Watching to see if person placing handfuls of votes in the box -- A good thing.

Arrest In Break-In At Democrat Hobbs' Campaign Headquarters

newtboy says...

Now, how about you address Ashley Babbitt, the dead traitorous cunt that destroys at least one position you hold sacred….either she and the MAGA insurrectionists were not innocent peaceful marchers calmly protesting like a normal day but were anti democracy violently murderous terrorists attacking police that showed god level restraint by only shooting her, or police shoot innocent non threatening people for no legitimate reason.

Which one do you want to finally admit is correct…because I think we both know they both are. It’s pretty chicken shit cowardly of you to continue to avoid the glaring reality by just not answering, and very telling about you that you simply cannot ever admit you are w-w-w-w-wrong.

bobknight33 said:

God you are gullible.



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