ok..
i'll chime in.
this is usually a discussion i save for something more..i dont know..in the same room type of deal.
and try to avoid internet discussions (context gets lost and the discussion has..by design..a polemic frame to it).
as some of you know i am a minister yet a can assume (with mild amusement i must add) that my comments and some of my posts may have you wondering..minister of what exactly?
well..dont get yer panties in a bunch,i am not going to do any preaching here.
all i am going to do is point out something that i find most atheists struggle with.
spirit,divinity,soul,chai,doktow,connection to the godhead..
whatever you wish to use as an adjective to define your own divinity.
what has EVERY religion,all 4500 on the planet,have in common?
that we have a soul,a spirit,a direct link to the cosmic consciousness.
argue all day on doctrine and dogma,translation but that remains the constant.
atheists do not believe in the spirit.that is their choice and they may change their mind or they may never change it.
now..
if one is an atheist they rely on science and not religious doctrine to make choices,decisions and judgements.
not a bad way to be,science has given us much.
but dag pointed out the fundamental breakdown between an atheist and someone who is aware of their true self..or spirit if you like.
he does not understand how such advanced civilizations would even bother with a race so obviously low on the civilization scale.
to study us..sure..but WHY else?
and there my friends is the disconnect.
the WHY.
the atheist..by his own belief system is literally pure ego.now i do not mean that in a derogatory way,just pointing out a fact.the ego is mind..a creation of not who we actually ARE but who we THINK we are.
so you can still be a kick ass person and still be pure ego.takes discipline though and an agile mind but it has and can be done.
the person who has become aware of their true selves ignores the ego and listens to their true self.
i am not saying one is greater or better than the other just pointing out the differences and their basic mechanics.
so..establishing the inherent differences let me explain my point.
dag does not understand because to him..we would be only a mild curiosity,but to the spiritually aware person we realize that all life is connected..especially sentient life and we are sentient but not all of us are awake.
it is this connection that all life recognizes on one level or another...even atheists.
i am no greater nor more important than a blade of grass.to you this may seem silly and even dimwitted but i assure you it is not that way and it is the more freeing than you can imagine.
no fear..no hate..no shame nor guilt.
how is that possible?
because i am aware of who i truly am and who you are and i make my choices accordingly.
so if we look at these "aliens" as not simply studying as us ants but rather as seeing us as little brothers and sisters struggling to take our first steps.then maybe we can take it a step further and look into the construct of time...lay it out like a canvas and ask..why the fuck are we even here?
are we ants to be studied?a populace to be controlled so we can buy more useless crap? on a never -ending treadmill of debt,fear and uncertainty?
or maybe the universe is far more wonderous and un-imaginable than we can even attempt to comprehend today?
maybe the universe is not so big after all?we just dont know it yet...but we will.
and im betting science will tell us how it works too!

now i dont know if aliens are here to help us walk.i dont know if they have been studying us for future food harvesting.i dont even know if they exist.
but there is a lot of information...and more and more people coming forward to tell their stories.
so a sit and watch with fascination and wonder and ask..is what they are saying true?
i dont know.i have not seen an alien nor have i been abducted but i HAVE seen some of the most extrordinary events that defy all description and laws of nature.
so just because i have not seen nor touched it i cant rule out somebody elses experience and so i sit,like dag and others,skeptical.
but i also wont rule anything out because "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."WS

but if you add the spirit element and that we are all connected.
each and every lifeform in the universe is connected.
aliens coming to help us in our next stage of evolution may not make more sense but it sure does feel/seem/sound better.
reality is the illusion gentlemen.
it is thought and consciousness that is real.

Upvote for taking my canvas bags to the supermarket. Good advice.

oh man, I didn't see canvas bags coming, that's awesome

>> ^dag:

I have one question - So much of Flash uses an "on hover" function. How is that managed on a touch screen?
Honestly I like the Adobe tools in general and Flash as a creative tool- it would be nice though, if they could make the switch and have it output to HTML 5 Canvas, instead of compiled closed binaries.
I shouldn't be against Flash- after all, it's been very good to VideoSift- but I do think the writing is on the wall that we're moving to an open standards plug-in free world.


By "on hover" I take it you mean the mouse event for mouseover where the cursor is over an object. I don't think mouseovers will be necessary for Flash on touchscreens, and are things that can be ignored completely.

Most mouseover events are antiquated practices. Back in the day, everything was html hot links where the link was blue and rolling over it would change it to different color to alert the user that it was clickable. We've grown passed that, and with touchscreens there's no need for it.

Mouse events like Click and Move will be useful.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I have one question - So much of Flash uses an "on hover" function. How is that managed on a touch screen?

Honestly I like the Adobe tools in general and Flash as a creative tool- it would be nice though, if they could make the switch and have it output to HTML 5 Canvas, instead of compiled closed binaries.

I shouldn't be against Flash- after all, it's been very good to VideoSift- but I do think the writing is on the wall that we're moving to an open standards plug-in free world.

good one chogster.
hey..has anyone seen my new RCA 27" flat screen i just got?
and i seem to be missing my canvas faux-matrix trenchcoat also...
has to be around here somewhere....

De Neveneffecten is a comedy show on Canvas (logo top left), a Flemish station that's funded (or subsidized at the least) by the government. This particular sketch is a weird parody of a kid's show on Ketnet (logo top right), which is pretty much the same channel, just before 20h.

I would say that pretty much any three wheel car would have stability issues, it's just physics.

But, this had worse issues than just that :

An accident at the 1933 Chicago world's fair damaged the first prototype badly, killing the driver, and seriously injuring the two passengers. The Dymaxion had rolled over, and although the driver was wearing a seatbelt, the prototype's canvas roof had not offered sufficient crash protection. The cause of the accident was not determined, although Buckminster Fuller reported that the accident was due to the actions of another vehicle that had been following the Dymaxion closely.[3] The crash prompted investors to abandon the project, blaming the accident on deficiencies of the vehicle's steering.

>> ^Sketch:
Cleanup costs in Los Angeles county for graffiti removal is apparently close to $30 million. Sorry, but in a bankrupt state, I'd rather pay the salaries for teachers than have to put up with this stupid bullshit. I have no problem with the art form when applied appropriately, but tagging is just fucking irritating. Upvote for the arrest.


It makes me wonder: what if they gave up on graffiti altogether? I think the problem is that we call it "clean up" when in reality what they are doing is wiping the canvas clean to give the next douchebag a nice new surface to paint on. I say fuck it, let them write over their shit over and over till it is just a gray blob of melted overrun paint.

>> ^alien_concept:
You don't have to play the guitar that well to be in a band? Huh?
Bloody artists and their rubbish analogies, haha


Agreed, but then again.. look at some of the music out there today. He has a bit of a point, not to say that it's a good thing though. His work was pretty shite, too, that artist. They all looked like stoned doodles, which I myself am very good at, but I would never expect to see them in a gallery. Seriously though, there's so much fucking crap modern art out there these days.. I swear I could probably stick a paintbrush up my ass, wiggle around a canvas for a bit, and sell it to some schmuck for a couple grand.

one thing you folks might not know about blankfist... i actually knew him when he was in the navy. that's actually how he got his nickname. every time we'd fist him, he'd just have this blank expression on his face, like he wasn't feeling anything at all. surprising, really, given the amount of blood and faeces he'd flood the room with. one time he passed out from the ..pleasure.. and we drew on his face with markers. afterward we felt so bad, knowing we'd crossed a line. you just don't fucking draw on passed out people -- it's wrong. so... i just want to publically apologise for drawing on you blankfist. you're the best fisting fuckmuppet we ever had, and it was really awful of us to treat you like a canvas.

all the best in your future endeavours mate,
hope the cancer doesn't spread and the fistulae clear up.

p.s. i would pay money to see rottenseed fuck you. that's not a joke.
p.p.s i'm going to spare the sift and not explain how you got your other nickname, "clotty snaps".

Yeah who cares ban plastic and paper then your forced to use the canvas bags. Maybe Id remember to get them out of the car before I get my groceries and check out if there was nothing to bag them in when I got to the register.

You are wrong. The Sun is the only true star in existence. The Earth is the center of the universe. That universe is only 6000 years old. All that we see are but images painted on the canvas of the sky to help us entertain ourselves until the day of Rapture(tm). At which time only believers such as myself... will be whisked away to the la-la magical land of the fairy king who goes by the name of Jesus Christ, glory and honor be to his name, amen! The rest of you will simply suffer an eternity swimming in the lake of fire. Though.. don't ask me how a deceased non-corporeal being with zero nerve endings can suffer pain and agony.. they just do. Ok?!

The new Terminator movie is mixed loud as fuck and there must be directions from the studio for theatres to set volume at 11. Terminator: Salvation is the loudest movie I've ever seen, and for a few years there I was seeing avg. 2 movies per week at the cinema.

I received a copy of DaVinci Code as a gift a couple years back, and couldn't even make it through the second chapter. The writing style is so... so... fucking SHITE that I felt embarassed to be reading it.

Here is the first paragraph in the book:

Renowned curator Jacques Saunière staggered through the vaulted archway of the museum's Grand Gallery. He lunged for the nearest painting he could see, a Caravaggio. Grabbing the gilded frame, the seventy-six-year-old man heaved the masterpiece toward himself until it tore from the wall and Saunière collapsed backward in a heap beneath the canvas.

I can't even keep track of who is the subject in that paragraph. Are "the 73 year-old man" and "Sauniere" the same person? Because the third sentence makes that somewhat unclear. Not good to be unclear three sentences into a novel.

Once again Yahtzee takes a huge cleveland steamer on a game I really like. Though at this point I'm used to it and pretend I haven't played said game, and it all seems ok... well sort of. I mean he makes valid points to a degree, but in the end I feel like he is nit picking. VC was a great game and had pretty decent depth to it. Beyond that it was a fresh take on turn based strategy and not really a JRPG in my eyes. That and the canvas engine was damn pretty to look at all the while.

eh whatever Yahtzee rulz I drool.