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Can a slingshot hit harder than handguns? The Shootout.

Chairman_woo says...

The slingshot does "hit harder" i.e. impart more momentum into the target and thus more likely to knock you down.
Intuitively this seems like it would therefore cause the most damage and for several 100 years this was the prevailing logic with muskets and cannonballs.

So much so in fact that when Charles Whitworth first introduced his rifle it was dismissed by the British army partly for having too small of a bullet. Whitworth used a smaller more stable round for its increased range and accuracy/stability (though there were also concerns about "muzzle fouling" and slower reload time).
It was believed at the time that the larger (slower) much less accurate bullets from the Enfield were more effective at actually injuring enemy soldiers, but history later demonstrated that speed and penetration can have just as much (if not more) effect on soft bodies than sheer mass and momentum.

Simply put, that large slingshot round would likely knock you to the floor in the same was as an MMA fighter landing a roundhouse square in your guts would. It might even penetrate the skin a bit and embed itself in you. What it won't do however is travel through your soft tissues at high velocity and create a large "temporary cavity" which is how most firearms do their real damage.

The 9mm etc. don't carry as much overall energy as the slingshot, but they do deliver it to a soft target much more effectively (that is to say lethally). A much more informative test would have been to fire them into ballistic clay, this would have highlighted the differences between speed, momentum and penetration much more clearly. The slingshot would leave a massive dint, the bullets would leave tunnels.

That said, the point they are making does stand to some extent. If you used that slingshot on someone that was trying to shoot you there is a good chance you'd knock them down (or at least stop them taking an aimed shot back for a few seconds). Hell you might even hospitalise them with a good shot!

It's not fair to say that the slingshot is a more "powerful" weapon but I think they did clearly demonstrate that it's a viable alternative under some circumstances. In fact for defending yourself in your own home etc. it might even be better!

Little/no risk of collateral damage (unless you miss really badly)
Very cheap
Would put most people on the floor with one good hit
No firearms licence or background checks needed
More difficult for a child to misuse (Most kids would lack the strength)
Enemy wouldn't expect it
Much less likely to kill
etc. etc.

Hell I'd get one myself if UK law wouldn't fk me over for using it.
It's illegal here to use a weapon specifically intended or kept for defense. i.e. if you grab a random object like a chair and beat up an intruder that's ok, if you have a baseball bat etc. by your bedside for expressly this purpose then it's not.
Handy then that one of my broken computer chairs happens to contain a loose 1ft long iron bar. Naturally I'd never even consider using such a thing violently, but who knows what might come to hand when faced with an intruder

(Seriously though, as broken furniture its a viable means of defence, if I kept it by my bedside as a "weapon" I'd be breaking the letter of the law by using it. Fucking stupid!)

Slingatron - a railway to space

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Slingotrons don't decimate cities with ballistic payloads - people do. ;-)

Stormsinger said:

I don't know that I really want this built...that's a damned powerful suborbital cannon, when (not if) it falls into the wrong hands.

At least a skyhook doesn't fire off orbital speed payloads.

Chef Ramsay versus/vs. Douchebag Cook

CreamK says...

Most likely it's staged. It's real emotions but the producers are clever manipulators. So Ramsay didn't know this would happen but the guy was worked in such a frenzy, he was basically steaming before he opened his mouth. I do bet that in the control booth they were hi-fiving each other "didn't think he'd go that ballistic, we just wanted a little bit mouth but this guy went full retard, woohoo, ratings!"

And yeah, anyone who says bitch is not someone to be afraid off...

Jim Carrey's 'Cold Dead Hand' Pisses Off Fox News Gun Nuts

VoodooV says...

Strawman argument. unless you have some ballistic missiles and plutonium, you've got nothing to worry about. If you are responsible and safe with your firearms, you've got nothing to worry about.

your paranoia is preventing you from living a productive life. you're too busy cowering in your bunker.

lantern53 said:

Only law-abiding citizens obey the law. The criminals don't bother with the law. Which is why I'm keeping my gun. I want anyone thinking of breaking into my house to know I have a gun and know how to use it. Because when this whole progressive utopia fails because they ran out of our money, there will be a lot of home invasions, carjackings, etc.

Woman 'denied a termination' dies in hospital -- TYT

Excellent Excuse for Being Caught Looking at Boobs

VoodooV says...

That's hilarious, he glimpsed them for all of a second and she goes ballistic on him. Were it not for the title of the video, I doubt I would have even noticed.

Should us men get all pissed when we catch a woman staring at our lips? Eyes are up here, ma'am!

Silly Putty Shotgun Slugs?

poolcleaner says...

>> ^00Scud00:

It's going to be hard to keep calling it "Silly" Putty, once you've managed to kill someone with it.
>> ^chingalera:
Easy wound clean-up??
Ballistics would have fun but they don't even try with shotguns anyhow.
"Suspect was killed by Silly Putty" would make great news.



According to shuac it is now to be referred to as "Serious Putty".

Silly Putty Shotgun Slugs?

00Scud00 says...

It's going to be hard to keep calling it "Silly" Putty, once you've managed to kill someone with it.
>> ^chingalera:

Easy wound clean-up??
Ballistics would have fun but they don't even try with shotguns anyhow.
"Suspect was killed by Silly Putty" would make great news.

Silly Putty Shotgun Slugs?

Silly Putty Shotgun Slugs?

Kitten goes ballistic on milk bottle

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Should VideoSift Allow Full-Length Movies? (User Poll by MrFisk)

chingalera says...

I'm about to upload a rare flick to You Tube, Leni Reifenstahl's Das.Blaue.Licht.1932, a rare snoozer procured through free and easy file-sharing.

If her estate cares anything about clearing up the tarnished name of an incredible talent they should be fine with it ~ If not, YouTube sends a shot across the bow and there's no harm or foul, just a friendly reminder to, "Don't Doo Dat!" (Probably some fucking self-hating Nazi or Jew, anyhow....)

Do the same with ANYTHING that has to do with Tallulah Bankhead (last feature film made in 1965), and her estate goes ballistic....PROBABLY because certain people who think lawyers can solve problems waste millions of dollars trying to get their way through intimidation and evil.

The lawyers are their employers are the only ones making out like bandits on copyright laws and the artists matter not: The people who hired the lawyers are the ones who have fucked the artists through contract already!

Fuck em all, when pirating and "illegal" downloads stop on the internet is the day I take up noodling or cribbage and convert my computer case into a nest for opossum!

Dude in a Ferrari Runs Over Cops Foot

Fletch says...

Cop purposely put his foot there. He's the idiot. How the hell is the driver supposed to see what's directly in front of his tire? And then choosing to go ballistic as if the guy meant do do it. Now he'll probably be charged with assaulting a police officer or some bullshit. Driver is a douchebag, but that ain't illegal.

Does your foot hurt, pig? Good.

Rape and Retards: Doug Stanhope talks Daniel Tosh

bareboards2 says...

Louis CK's rape joke is brilliant.

Because it is brilliant, I suspect it is going over the heads of those who could learn the lesson embedded in it.

He deconstructed rape. He described the sense of entitlement that some men feel about their penises and their desires. He shied away from blatantly naming it, but really he is describing date rape.

Men who get women drunk, or take advantage of women who are drunk, need to listen to this joke over and over, letting it seep into their consciousness.

This joke also describes the violent offender, the man who attacks women with a knife or a gun or their fists. But the heart of this brilliant, brilliant joke is the uncovering of the motivation and blindness of date rape.

Before anyone goes ballistic on me, let me say that women have got to fight back in date rape situations. Punch, hit, yell, push. Being frightened and meek when a guy is pushing his sexual desires on you is absolutely the "wrong" response. I know women have been trained differently, but we women have got to claim our voices and push the hell back. We women (rather insultingly) joke about men being "clueless" -- well, if you believe that, then accept it fully. Yelling NO, pushing him away, if you need to a nice head butt to the nose -- those actions will clue him in but FAST.

If women claimed that power for themselves, the rate of date rape would plummet.



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