oh, it's HER rapping? whoa. this is almost as startling as that time i bought avril lavigne's cd and found a rap track on it. i mean, a friend gave me the cd. which he had found in a trashcan somewhere dude i listened out of curiosity why can't i stop typing oh no don't hit the submit button! not the submit bu

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>> ^CaptWillard:
Mkone downvotes all American football apparently because he hates American football. I find his behavior juvenile, but not in conflict with the rules. It would be no different then someone downvoting every video by Avril Lavigne simple because they hate every word sung by Avril Lavigne. Back when Ron Paul constantly cluttered the Top 15 I didn't downvote the videos, though I was sorely tempted to because I don't like Ron Paul.


Would it still be OK if this "someone" even voted down *dead Avril Lavigne videos? Would you vote down a *dead Ron Paul video if you had decided to vote down all of his videos?

^Word, JAPR.

Since you've adopted a slightly less abrasive tone, joedirt (hey, it may not be much, but I'll take it), I'll tell you where I agree with you, but first I'll address the mkone situtation.

Mkone downvotes all American football apparently because he hates American football. I find his behavior juvenile, but not in conflict with the rules. It would be no different then someone downvoting every video by Avril Lavigne simple because they hate every word sung by Avril Lavigne. Back when Ron Paul constantly cluttered the Top 15 I didn't downvote the videos, though I was sorely tempted to because I don't like Ron Paul. I knew I couldn't be an objective judge of their quality, so I simply passed on even viewing them. However, had I downvoted them I would not have been breaking the rules. I could justify all my downvotes by simply saying "I don't believe in what Ron Paul stands for, so regardless of what this video presents I can't approve of his advertisments or speeches." Who could have called me out for that? I wish mkone would simply avoid all American football videos, but it's really not my place to say. So be it. So if we're the jury on mkone then I cast my vote to acquit.

I mostly agree with you, joedirt, in that these behavior call out threads need to be drastically reduced. I won't ask for their complete elimination, because there will be times that someone's behavior will definitely cross the line, so we should still reserve the right as a community to address these issues in a public forum. You might not like that and may call these things "witch hunts", but I still prefer an open, public forum over a star chamber that dispenses "justice" behind closed doors. From what I gather you don't like either, but I can't determine what else we could have done in the quantumushroom situation. He downvoted videos in rapid succession solely as retribution. As you said: "[T]his site at the very core and essence consists of watching videos and voting for videos." If we all did what QM did then it would no longer be about watching and voting for videos, but one pissing contest after another. His behavior, if duplicated by enough users, would have ruined this site. Therefore it had to be addressed. So even if we had removed QM's ability to downvote, i.e., taking away his downvote "tool", I'd still prefer that it be done publicly, that way transparency is maintained. Now maybe you're suggesting that ALL downvoting be removed. To that I can only say that we shouldn't punish the vast majority for the sins of the tiny minority.

To summarize, there should be far fewer posts like this, but I can't in good conscience ask for their complete elimination. Granted, it's an imperfect system, and maybe someone will come up with something better eventually. I'm open to change, so I'd love to hear some suggestions. In the mean time I hope there will be less posts like this.

PS:

Did it kill you NOT to be quite as rude?

sarcasm?

How's the business going?

In reply to this comment by therealblankman:
*dead again. What a friggin shame.

I wish I could downvote, I became a member if only to downvote that avril cover the other day. Sadly I did not know. =(

There's a strong groundswell of WORLDhate for Avril, Krupo. And for me it has nothing to do with her being or not being punk. It's about her music sucking big hairy donkey balls.

I thought she did a fantastic job. I enjoyed it.

I'm ashamed to admit (but less so as I get older) that I really like Avril's music and always have. Great voice, catchy songs, and pretty face. What's not to like.

Don't know if it struck anyone else, but in this video she totally looks like Veronica Mars (aka. Kristen Bell and now aka. Elle in Heroes) who also happens to be a great singer.

I like the original version of Girlfriend. Like most of Avril's songs, it's supposed to be fun.

Nearly everyone who's against Avril likes to complain that she's not punk rock. Well, guess what: she never was! Back when she was just starting out I remember hearing her sing Temple of Life, which is as Christian as you can get without mentioning Jesus and the apostles. Some of her demo material had a gospel theme, including the stereotypical poorly played keyboard and choir.

She was marketed to 12-14 year old females as the embodiment of rebellion, and while she made no effort to deny this, all she did was wear punk inspired clothing.

Avril sings pop music with a power chord here and there. She's like Hilary Duff with a different wardrobe.

Man, for me this is an example about why some people shouldn't cover other people. This just makes me think way less of Avril. It's like when I've various people try to cover Aretha. Not that Sara is Aretha.

But man, this feels shallow and pointless.

Tripple ick. I think this will permanently impair my ability to enjoy Avril.

Great voice. It's funny hearing this song, still so relatively new, coming out of someone else's mouth.

Avril cleans up nice, too.

What if Adam Levine and Avril Lavigne had a baby?

avril lavinge gives me PTSD style seizures... never work in a mall people, never ever work in a mall.

It is obscure because of The Rubinoos. I did realize that having Avril L in the Obscure collective is contradictive. However, I realized this right at the moment of submitting it.

In reply to your comment:
“I made a mistake in up voting this.

This really does not belong in my collective.”

That is WONDERFUL. Weird Al Yankovic used to do a lot of these fake interviews on this ALTV segments on MTV. The interviews with Adam Ant and Avril Levine were particular classics. I'd suspect Jay swiped it from Al, except both probably stole it from Steve Allen.