>> ^gwiz665:

Hilarious that they have the title the other way, as if somehow Avril Lavigne is more important. I remember playing this back in highschool. Was fucking awesome.


Yea I thought it was fucked up to. So being the fantastic infallible sifter I am.. I changed it into the more acceptable route.

Damn I am pretty fantastic..hell WE are fantastic aren't we ?

Hilarious that they have the title the other way, as if somehow Avril Lavigne is more important. I remember playing this back in highschool. Was fucking awesome.

yeah and where's Avril Lavigne?!>> ^TheFreak:

Yeah, right? Where's the Green Day?
>> ^Sagemind:
I didn't hear one Punk Band on that album!
Top 100 Punk Bands as voted by MusicianForums.com

I'll admit it: I really love Avril Lavigne's music. A lot. Her first album was particularly fabulousss.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'avril, lavigne, what, the, hell' to 'avril lavigne, what the hell, music video' - edited by lucky760

No surprise that the tracks that were direct rip offs were from the teenyboppers. No new ideas there - just rehashes of past hits. I mean that Avril Lavigne song was exactly the same!

With my profile I publicly collect links to videos that I like in some respects (more than 50% interesting) or sometimes (rarely) as a whole..in general I promote diversity in quality content.

I downvote videos that are +/- below 30% interesting - often this means sloppy/badly produced videos in form and/or content (or undeliberate incongruence between form and content)..I may upvote a video of Avril Lavigne for the visual aspect instead of the music or her popularity etc..

30-50% interesting videos get no vote. I think other members/lurkers may find them potentially interesting.

These percentages are rough and change over time as my frame of reference increases. Sometimes just one obscure aspect really appeals that may be relatively small in comparison with the whole clip: this may cause me to upvote the clip..

I have problems with bad titles of posts and advertising (URLs, leaders etc.) in the video, which sometimes causes me to downvote the video - no matter the content.

I positively discriminate (upvote) vintage (older than 1970s) clips and clips from video cultures that are less represented on the web - non-western cities/countries/regions - and subcultures.

I use all possible ways to navigate the content here, that's one of the reasons I like VS so much! (Still waiting for a neighbour system (cf. last.fm) and channel search though, but I digress)..other members may influence my voting as I respect the voting behaviour of some VS members..but in the end "I am the decider";)

I sometimes clarify my up-/downvotes in the comments, depends mostly on the available amount of time and clarity of my mind.

(Also see my profile text on my voting philosophy.)

I vote something up if I like it. I leave it alone completely or if compelled will leave a comment on a vid if I dislike it or it does nothing for me. On occasion, if a video pisses me off, or I absolutely detest them in the first place (i'm talking Avril Lavigne specifically here then it gets a downvote. I never upvote a video for anything other than I like it or at the very least know I will like it. I wish everyone did the same, especially with my vids, i'd rather they sat in my queue until someone comes along who genuinely appreciates it, at least I can say i've got dibs on it and it's through because it's good enough.

it's actually a conspiracy. We canadians are putting out terrible singers.
Eventually there will be so many out, that most Americans will be forced to listen to their crap.

This will then act as de-motivation, causing the army to collapse, the government will fail, and the the people will fall under the weight of crappy Canadian music.

We will then take over.

Enjoy the Celine Dion and Avril Lavigne.. suckers.

I am at home and I made this video for you! Avril Lavigne is wonderful! http://memopal.clickmeter.com/007042.html

oh, it's HER rapping? whoa. this is almost as startling as that time i bought avril lavigne's cd and found a rap track on it. i mean, a friend gave me the cd. which he had found in a trashcan somewhere dude i listened out of curiosity why can't i stop typing oh no don't hit the submit button! not the submit bu

>> ^CaptWillard:
Mkone downvotes all American football apparently because he hates American football. I find his behavior juvenile, but not in conflict with the rules. It would be no different then someone downvoting every video by Avril Lavigne simple because they hate every word sung by Avril Lavigne. Back when Ron Paul constantly cluttered the Top 15 I didn't downvote the videos, though I was sorely tempted to because I don't like Ron Paul.


Would it still be OK if this "someone" even voted down *dead Avril Lavigne videos? Would you vote down a *dead Ron Paul video if you had decided to vote down all of his videos?

^Word, JAPR.

Since you've adopted a slightly less abrasive tone, joedirt (hey, it may not be much, but I'll take it), I'll tell you where I agree with you, but first I'll address the mkone situtation.

Mkone downvotes all American football apparently because he hates American football. I find his behavior juvenile, but not in conflict with the rules. It would be no different then someone downvoting every video by Avril Lavigne simple because they hate every word sung by Avril Lavigne. Back when Ron Paul constantly cluttered the Top 15 I didn't downvote the videos, though I was sorely tempted to because I don't like Ron Paul. I knew I couldn't be an objective judge of their quality, so I simply passed on even viewing them. However, had I downvoted them I would not have been breaking the rules. I could justify all my downvotes by simply saying "I don't believe in what Ron Paul stands for, so regardless of what this video presents I can't approve of his advertisments or speeches." Who could have called me out for that? I wish mkone would simply avoid all American football videos, but it's really not my place to say. So be it. So if we're the jury on mkone then I cast my vote to acquit.

I mostly agree with you, joedirt, in that these behavior call out threads need to be drastically reduced. I won't ask for their complete elimination, because there will be times that someone's behavior will definitely cross the line, so we should still reserve the right as a community to address these issues in a public forum. You might not like that and may call these things "witch hunts", but I still prefer an open, public forum over a star chamber that dispenses "justice" behind closed doors. From what I gather you don't like either, but I can't determine what else we could have done in the quantumushroom situation. He downvoted videos in rapid succession solely as retribution. As you said: "[T]his site at the very core and essence consists of watching videos and voting for videos." If we all did what QM did then it would no longer be about watching and voting for videos, but one pissing contest after another. His behavior, if duplicated by enough users, would have ruined this site. Therefore it had to be addressed. So even if we had removed QM's ability to downvote, i.e., taking away his downvote "tool", I'd still prefer that it be done publicly, that way transparency is maintained. Now maybe you're suggesting that ALL downvoting be removed. To that I can only say that we shouldn't punish the vast majority for the sins of the tiny minority.

To summarize, there should be far fewer posts like this, but I can't in good conscience ask for their complete elimination. Granted, it's an imperfect system, and maybe someone will come up with something better eventually. I'm open to change, so I'd love to hear some suggestions. In the mean time I hope there will be less posts like this.

PS:

Did it kill you NOT to be quite as rude?

sarcasm?

How's the business going?

In reply to this comment by therealblankman:
*dead again. What a friggin shame.

What if Adam Levine and Avril Lavigne had a baby?