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Chicago most violent weekend of the year: No cops involved

robdot says...

Crime, and crimes by cops, are two unrelated subjects. Just because peo0le commit crimes, doesn’t mean,cops don’t commit crimes. Google rampart scandal.

Trump Justice Dept Spied on Democrats During Russia Probe

simonm (Member Profile)

Biggest Little League Cheating Scandal Ever

newtboy says...

Lol. Hardly the biggest or worst. Many many times teams were disqualified for exactly the same thing, often with far more ineligible players and without redistricting agreements. Teams used corked bats, teams used over age players, teams threw games to avoid playing other teams, teams recruited kids from the Dominican, lied about their age and residency, and even forged birth certificates.

What is it about this team that makes @bobknight33 want to claim they’re the worst? Hmmmmm? I just can’t put my finger on it, but something obviously “colored” his opinion....

Here’s a few real cheating scandals, not just gerrymandering, which if it’s horribly wrong should disqualify most Republican representatives and senators since it’s how republicans have retained seats when they have far fewer votes.


Mordhaus (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

But that’s the thing....they don’t have to prove his thoughts, nor his intent, only the results....because this isn’t a criminal trial and there are very different standards, they only have to show he didn’t preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, violating his oath and duty, because the only possible sentence is for him to be bared from office. His lack of action during the attack alone far exceeded that bar.

It’s becoming more likely (but still unlikely) they could get the votes because he’s barely putting up a defense. To me it seemed like a mockery of the senate, like they were just proving the point that his defense could be someone standing at the podium shouting “Bababoui, Bababoui, Howard Stern’s penis!” and still he would not be convicted...and I think that’s pissing off some Republican senators....but there are also many who are reading books and unrelated documents among other distractions and clearly not paying attention at all, proving the defense correct, they could say anything and still get him off without presenting any defense. A sad state.
On the contrary, the prosecution’s case is straight forward with video evidence and records of what Trump tweeted and did (or didn’t do like not calling in the national guard) during the attack on top of the horrific personal experiences of the same senators hearing the case....hard to forget a lynch mob looking for you and your family to hang less than a month ago.

Remember, there is no possible prison term here, no fine, nothing but baring him from office, that’s it. There should be a criminal trial for treason IMO, but it wouldn’t be a slam dunk. I think the standard isn’t what he meant, it’s what a reasonable person would think he meant. That’s not prosecuting thought crime, it’s prosecuting speech and actions that it’s plainly foreseeable will incite real crimes.

I barely remember the inauguration riots, the million pussy hat march made more news....Trump’s “biggest crowd ever” nonsense got more airtime, and damages and injuries were fairly minimal so, especially when faced with the fresh scars from 2020, they’re easy to forget. That said, I don’t disagree....by 2022 new scandals and a desire to forget will erase this from many people’s memories.

Mordhaus said:

I haven't watched the hearings. To me it's still a case of bread and circuses. They can't convict, so all of this is just an attempt to burn these images into a voting publics mind that forgets events longer than 6 months ago. This won't even be remembered by the average person by the next votes in 2022. Just like most people don't recall the riots that were sort of incited by liberals in 2017 prior to and during the inauguration. Admittedly, they didn't storm congress, but they did break into buildings, burn cars, and injure people.

Did Trump probably intend for violence? Probably, but proving his thoughts are going to take a lot more than words he used. Thankfully we haven't started putting people away for thoughtcrimes yet or I would be fucked.

Donald Trumps Christmas story about reindeers and elections

moonsammy says...

I've been thinking for a while that we need something like a social media system that's highly informed by / based around trust. Like, we could each indicate 100% trust in the identity of people we personally know (or lower percentages, as warranted), and invisibly rate the degree to which we trust statements / posts / linked content of whoever / whatever entity. The system would build up aggregate "trust levels" for different entities / pieces of information, and be designed to do the best possible job of letting us know how "bullshitty" things are (or are likely to be). We're rapidly approaching a point after which we can't inherently trust any media, as literally everything can be faked. So we'll need some way to properly gauge how dubious it's reasonable to be.

I think there's some real fucked up scandals due in the near future though.

geo321 said:

meant to comment this here;
This technology scares the shit out of me, like think of when we literally can't trust the words out of someones mouth again

Trump and the GOP Rocked by Bombshell Woodward Tapes

newtboy says...

You need a new line, Bobby. It gets old hearing that exact response a few times a day as each new scandal, deadly lie, health issue, and leadership failure comes into the spotlight.

We know absolutely nothing will make you change your blind worship of him, not even if he was eating babies alive on live tv while fondling them, nothing. You don't really need to jump up at every story and deny it, but feel free if the compulsion is overwhelming, it only serves to remind everyone how delusional you can be.

He lied about the danger and the need for caution, Americans died as a DIRECT result of following his specific directions to not distance and not mask up...died by the hundreds of thousands and permanently horrifically disabled at 3-5 times that many with destroyed lungs and brains, with those numbers expected to double by the new year....and he continues to lie.
It's only a non story to America's enemies. To real Americans, it's near genocidal in scope and criminality.

bobknight33 said:

What BS.

This is a non story and Democrats pushing the same during this time period.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

And you believe this shit.

Dems throwing out everything they got.
Scandal every 3 days or so till election.

Vote Trump and be proud of America,

newtboy said:

Also this non anonymous whistleblower report today....

A senior Department of Homeland Security official alleges that he was told to stop providing intelligence analysis on the threat of Russian interference in the 2020 election, in part because it “made the President look bad,” an instruction he believed would jeopardize national security.

The official, Brian Murphy, who until recently was in charge of intelligence and analysis at DHS, said in a whistleblower complaint that on two occasions he was told to stand down on reporting about the Russian threat.

On July 8, Murphy said, acting Homeland Security secretary Chad Wolf told him that an “intelligence notification” regarding Russian disinformation efforts should be “held” because it was unflattering to Trump, who has long derided Russian interference as a “hoax” that was concocted by his opponents to delegitimize his victory in 2016.

It’s not clear who would have seen the notification, but DHS’s intelligence reports are routinely shared with the FBI, other federal law enforcement agencies and state and local governments.

Murphy objected to Wolf’s instruction, “stating that it was improper to hold a vetted intelligence product for reasons [of] political embarrassment,” according to a copy of his whistleblower complaint that was obtained by The Washington Post.

Murphy also alleges that two months earlier, Wolf told him to stop producing intelligence assessments on Russia and shift the focus on election interference to China and Iran. He said Wolf told him “that these instructions specifically originated from White House National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien.”

China bankrolling Biden Center at UPenn

newtboy says...

Still trying to pass that dumb, debunked "Biden got $1.5 billion from China" crazy bullshit? Odd, the Center for Responsive Politics estimates Hunter Biden's net worth, as of July 2019, at between $2.14 million and $7.92 million. Where did the other $1.498 billion go, @bobknight33?

Now it's a verified fact that Ivanka got a gift valued at >$35 million, between 5 -16 times Hunter's total net worth, directly from China's government in the form of trade patents during Trump's now completely failed trade talks.

This new stupid bullshit you're peddling is OAN trying to create scandal about an alleged, unverified, anonymous donation being called a bribe from China with zero evidence beyond the accusation, reported by a hyper partisan propaganda network that's unbelievably less honest than Fox....and you bought it hook line and sinker.

That the best you got, buddy? You've really got to stop trying the same old totally debunked conspiracy theories and come up with something new....you aren't even keeping it interesting.

Anatomy of a Viral Lie, COVID-19

bobknight33 says...

No scandals only anti Trump people trying to take him out. All proven wrong.

Stay in you lane and just keep posting bad cop videos.

newtboy said:

Wow....after 3+ years of multilayered overlapping scandals, any one of which would have ended any other leader's/politician's career, you still believe something exists that could turn his cultists away? You think far more of humans than I do.
I tend to think that if he was caught red handed in bed with three fourteen year old boys, suddenly homosexuality and pedophilia would be perfectly fine with them.

Anatomy of a Viral Lie, COVID-19

newtboy says...

Wow....after 3+ years of multilayered overlapping scandals, any one of which would have ended any other leader's/politician's career, you still believe something exists that could turn his cultists away? You think far more of humans than I do.
I tend to think that if he was caught red handed in bed with three fourteen year old boys, suddenly homosexuality and pedophilia would be perfectly fine with them.

nock said:

This is absolutely going to bring him down. And rightly so.

Lev Parnas Exposes Nunes As Part Of Ukrainian Scandal

newtboy says...

It's becoming clear why republicans are bending over backwards to minimize evidence and testimony in the impeachment trial and rubber stamp an acquittal, they're all afraid their parts in the illegal and unethical scandal will be exposed.

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Isn't that exactly what Trump said, that the investigation of him was illegal because Democrats were involved, making it partisan? That since what he claimed was the impetus (or as he says, the oranges) for the investigation was an imperfect dossier the whole thing was illegal?
The impetus for his Biden witch hunt is unambiguously a made up story by corrupt Ukrainians that doesn't fit the documented facts in the slightest, which every professional involved told him clearly, a fake story furthered directly by Trump in public.

In fact, it is hands off for the president. Using the power of the office to direct investigations of political rivals is impeachable.
Using the office to blackmail foreign powers to interfere in our election by starting false investigations for political reasons is a crime.
Taking foreign money in exchange for illegal and corrupt policies that are against the national interests but personally beneficial is treason. He has done exactly that.

But in YOUR mind, Treasonous Trump can do no wrong, and things that were treason when you baselessly claimed Democrats did them are patriotism when Trump brags about them. You can't even understand that Trump openly committed the very crime he was convinced by foreign criminals Biden committed...using the power of his office and public funds to pressure foreign investigations for personal gain...the difference being Trump did it secretly for personal political gains and was caught, Biden didn't do anything besides join international and bipartisan efforts to remove a corrupt prosecutor who wouldn't prosecute corruption. Trump removed a top notch anti corruption diplomat because she wouldn't push for a corrupt and baseless politically motivated investigation of his political rival, exactly what the corrupt Ukrainians had paid him to do.

Trump couldn't come up with any other corruption he wants investigated besides the Biden fantasy he was sold, and when asked exactly what he expected from Ukraine, he said he specifically expected them to investigate Biden, not fight corruption. Same for China, which was not a joke or trolling of the public, his trade advisor admitted he brought it up in official trade talks before he said it publicly.

You keep chanting 'he'll drain the swamp' ignoring he is the swamp thing, and the swampiest administration ever with more corruption convictions than any two administrations combined (an educated guess, might be >2) and more scandals than any 10 combined.

If I weren't sure you were a Russian troll only trying to sew division with ridiculous republican regurgitation of baseless claims based on delusion and corruption, I would be seriously worried about your mental state.

Edit: remember these days in 15 months. When Democrats control congress and the executive, the same "see no evil" tactics will be more than fair play. No matter how unconstitutional their actions might be, no matter how unacceptable, we will see no wrong....just cleaning up the Trump mess. Nothing to worry about.

bobknight33 said:

So in you mind as long as Joe is running for an office he is hands off from investigating.

Trump is not trying to get dirt of a candidate but to continue his effort to drain the swamp, which Joe seems to be neck deep in it.

Giuliani/Trump Donors/Associates Arrested Fleeing The U.S.

newtboy says...

The house has already subpoenaed their records along with Rick Perry's this morning.
Perry is accused of being complicit in the "arms for accusations" scheme by Trump and Guliani, actually Trump is trying to pin the scandal on Perry recently, but is also accused using his influence to appoint some Texas friends to head a Ukrainian state owned natural gas company. He has agreed to cooperate.
Ruh-Roe!



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