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Pro-lifers not so pro-life after all?

RFlagg says...

I don't know if the right's stance on gun control is the hypocrisy I'd point out about their so called "pro-life" stance, but I'll get to the hypocrisy in a moment.

It is odd how after every mass shooting here, which means we get to hear it a lot, the political right always jumps on the "oh no, they are trying to take our guns away", "if guns kill people, why don't they try to ban cars which kill more people" and other memes when nobody is talking about banning guns or forcing everyone to register all the guns they own, let alone take guns away. Closing the gun show loophole (and all such laws proposed that would close it still left open the ability to pass guns to family members without a license or registration), allow the CDC to track gun violence... these aren't unreasonable requests. Even exempting the gun industry from the same liability laws we hold nearly every other industry to (with a huge notable exception to fracking... hmm... another one the right loves) seems fairly reasonable, though I guess I can semi see the concerns... of course said concerns go back to the fact that nearly anyone can get a gun quickly and easily. 30+ homicides a day, 50+ gun related suicides every day, 40+ accidental deaths every day, hundreds treated for gun assault injuries every day, thousands of crimes committed at gun point from rape to robbery and burglary, and the list goes on and on... I support one's right to own guns, including hand guns, but we need to admit there is a gun violence problem. And it isn't a heart problem, if Cain had a gun he'd have used a gun, a rock is what was available to him at the supposed moment of action. And it isn't a lack of Jesus problem as over 78% of people in the US general population and other far more democratic, first word, advanced economy, fully free will, countries like the Netherlands have far more Atheists than us, but have far less gun violence... less violence overall. It's not a video game problem, as those games are popular outside the US, and again no correlative rise in violence. (And yes, the UK violence rate is higher, but it isn't an apples for apples correlation, they define far more things into their national violent crime rates than we do, when all things are equaled out, they have a much smaller one.) So it's time that the right just admit there is an issue with guns and violence in this country.

But as I said, we don't need to point to the rights stance on guns to prove they aren't actually pro-life. Just point to the fact they are the ones who are most in support of the death penalty. Just point to the fact they are the most pro-war and are the loudest war hawks, despite the fact Jesus said "blessed are the peacemakers" I guess they figure that means forcing everyone to the US's will, since somehow God anointed the US with special privilege above all other nations (after all the Bible mentions the eagle rising against the bear, which must be the US rising against the Soviets). Point out that they support stand your ground, somebody taking your nice new TV, stand your ground and turn that crime into a death penalty there in your home... of course Jesus said if somebody takes your coat to give your shirt too, not that I'm sure He was meaning to freely let people take all your stuff, but I can guarantee He wouldn't have been pro-stand your ground. They don't support having guaranteed affordable health care, or having government assistance for the needy and the poor. Apparently that life only matters while in the womb, the quality of life after that doesn't matter, and if they can make it worse for the child then they don't care, so long as their taxes don't help the child.

They aren't by any stretch of the imagination pro-life. They are anti-abortion. I think abortion is far from ideal, and should be a last option. The best option is the same thing that the women not having abortions have, affordable health care. Access to contraceptive options like IUDs (which don't stop fertilized eggs from attaching to the uterus which they try to claim) and the pill... and it doesn't matter if the pill itself is cheap, the doctor visit to get them and follow ups need to be affordable too... somehow the right really likes to blame women and hold them accountable for the pregnancy, when in fact it's the guy who should be blamed. If they don't want a pregnancy, then he should wrap it as soon as it comes out of the pants. No playing "just the tip" or anything else like that. Then dispose of properly, and ideally, don't rely on it as the sole method of birth control. So guarantee all people, including women, access to affordable health care. Give them their free choice of birth control and I'd say encourage the use of the IUD which has an amazingly low failure rate compared to other birth control methods... that is if she's going to use a contraceptive on her end. Don't make it a crime to have a miscarriage... which is some of the most asinine law proposals ever created... and rape is rape, no such thing as "legitimate" rape, I don't care if the Bible is into punishing women for being rape victims (a virgin not betrothed has to marry the rapist and he has to pay her father 50 shackles of silver for the father's loss or property and the couple may never divorce, Deuteronomy 22:28-29 or if she's in a city and betrothed then she has to be put to death Deuteronomy 22:23-24, a passage defended because it says "because she cried not", but how often do people ignore crimes or say they didn't see anything, heck people film others raping a passed out girl, so "because she cried not" is a poor excuse).

TLDR: The right are far from being pro-life far beyond gun control, they support war, they support the death penalty, they support stand your ground, they are against the government helping the needy and the poor, and are against a truly affordable health care policy that would largely eliminate the need for abortions in the first place.

MITs robotic cheetah jumping obstacles

lucky760 says...

So awesome.

Their next challenge will be to get it to deal with obstacles that are not static. When the humans rise against the machines the meatbags won't be standing still like those blocks of foam.

I, pet goat II

criticalthud says...

>> ^spoco2:

>> ^criticalthud:
>> ^spoco2:
Well they're depressive individuals.
Really, what was the point of that? I got bored with it I'm afraid as it was harping on its same point 'people in power are bad' over and over... quite tedious.
And yup, when you browse their gallery of shots from the movie with their wanky descriptions of them, it only further enforces what a load of largely pointless dribble this is.
Quite pretty, nicely animated, to be sure, but what is the POINT?

i think the point a lot of art is to open the door to your interpretation.

Hmm, not really here. They're pretty fricken blatent with their symbolism. Problem is, they just keep on with the symbolism for 7 minutes after they've made the point. And there's no story to interest over the top of it, it's just a bunch of symbolism, and that's it... doesn't make for interesting viewing. Show the 'evil' government and 'evil' society and 'evil' religion and then show how to rise against it, or rise above it, or protect yourself from it... OR SOMETHING.
But all this does is go
"Hey, the government is crap"
"So's religion"
"Society as a whole sucks arse and is over sexualised"
...
...
"Nope, that's it, I've got nothing else, just thought I'd say that"
That's such shallow rubbish. You could either show some way to combat the crap, OR, maybe show the deeper root cause of these things, show the simple core problem that feeds those things, and so maybe offer a way to combat them that way.
All this does is say 'We're really depressed about shit'
Art that leaves it up to your interpretation can actually be taken a number of ways... this not so much.


thanks for sharing your critique

I, pet goat II

spoco2 says...

>> ^criticalthud:

>> ^spoco2:
Well they're depressive individuals.
Really, what was the point of that? I got bored with it I'm afraid as it was harping on its same point 'people in power are bad' over and over... quite tedious.
And yup, when you browse their gallery of shots from the movie with their wanky descriptions of them, it only further enforces what a load of largely pointless dribble this is.
Quite pretty, nicely animated, to be sure, but what is the POINT?

i think the point a lot of art is to open the door to your interpretation.


Hmm, not really here. They're pretty fricken blatent with their symbolism. Problem is, they just keep on with the symbolism for 7 minutes after they've made the point. And there's no story to interest over the top of it, it's just a bunch of symbolism, and that's it... doesn't make for interesting viewing. Show the 'evil' government and 'evil' society and 'evil' religion and then show how to rise against it, or rise above it, or protect yourself from it... OR SOMETHING.

But all this does is go
"Hey, the government is crap"
"So's religion"
"Society as a whole sucks arse and is over sexualised"

...
...

"Nope, that's it, I've got nothing else, just thought I'd say that"

That's such shallow rubbish. You could either show some way to combat the crap, OR, maybe show the deeper root cause of these things, show the simple core problem that feeds those things, and so maybe offer a way to combat them that way.

All this does is say 'We're really depressed about shit'

Art that leaves it up to your interpretation can actually be taken a number of ways... this not so much.

Nobel Peace Prize 2010 goes to chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo

More Gaza Carnage - Footage From The Guardian

10768 says...

How sad! It's obvious that Hamas has no regard for human life or dignity, using these peoples houses and neighborhoods as weapon-launching pads.

They are so fortunate that the IDF holds to a higher standard of humanity, and gives them warning to evacuate before the buildings are to be destroyed.

They are right to fear massing in the schools. Hamas continues to violate the neutrality of those areas also (in spite of the tragic bombing)
http://www.videosift.com/video/School-Hamas-is-STILL-using-Schools-to-launch-rocket-attacks

One would think that at last they would rise against the murderous gang which claims to fight on their behalf. With Hamas gone there would be no barrier to peace in Gaza. Blockades and checkpoints and shortages would be memories.

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Parkour compilation: best cityscape flips, jumps and stunts

Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee

Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee

Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee

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