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BBC Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Third Tower
"Architect, Richard Gage" Or to put it another way "This fucking guy over here"
I have YET to see any compilation of data or study or inquiry submitted to any Architectural or Engineering school or organization of note. Did science just fly out the fucking window? Or do Truthers think that ALL Engineers and Architects are controlled by the government?
Until Truthers get their heads OUT OF THEIR ASSES and present scientific peer reviewed data and analysis to a group of experts for testing it's all bullshit. Anyone who's gone to school knows how this shit works. You have an endless amount of things that you can do besides saying "This doesn't work so Says Me!"
It's about what you can prove and duplicate, it's Science Bitches, It doesn't care how much money you have or your political affiliation.
Nature ain't care, she's a badass mother.
"In order for the perimeter, to fall perfectly and symmetrically (which it pretty much does at building seven), all of those columns (24 core columns) would have to be removed within a tenth of a second of each other...Fire cannot do that...a controlled demolition can."~Architect, Richard Gage, founder Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
BBC Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Third Tower
"In order for the perimeter, to fall perfectly and symmetrically (which it pretty much does at building seven), all of those columns (24 core columns) would have to be removed within a tenth of a second of each other...Fire cannot do that...a controlled demolition can."~Architect, Richard Gage, founder Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
Richard Gage lays out the case for a 9/11 Conspiracy
>> ^manfromx:
So to sum up bcglorf
Yes it is to much to ask to investigate because his suggestion sounds crazy.
Regardless of any evidence they bring up to try and say it is suspicious it seems that a lot of people just want to stick their fingers in their ears and go lalalala. Then the second you lay out where that evidence may lead they unplug their ears and go "AHA! See sounds crazy!".
I just think it's odd that people can't accept the smallest possibility of this. Governments have done terrible things to their own people before. Do you people with your fingers in your ears really think all the good guys are in North America and all the bad are in the Middle East? (not saying there aren't bad people in the Middle East mind you).
I think part of it stems from people not wanting to be "that guy". You know, the one that suggests something out of step of what is commonly believed. The ones you ridicule usually. You got no balls.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that his claim is as simple as requesting there be an investigation. You see, there already was an investigation and it is Gage that is ignoring that evidence and calling it suspicious and sticking his fingers in his ears.
Gage isn't even merely asking for a more thorough investigation, he is making his own claim that the 9/11 attacks were a controlled demolition event. Every piece of evidence he and his type have brought forward has been thoroughly debunked. The official story has been accepted as valid by thousands of trained profesionals in relevant fields. For Gage's story to be true, literally thousands of trained engineers and physicists across the country have to be in on the conspiracy. It also requires a massive coverup effort to hide and plant the explosives initially and to subsequently deny the use of them before all the professional witnesses across the country who know better. Sorry, but it is crazy if you follow it right through and truly test the imagined 'evidence' Gage has brought forward.
Richard Gage lays out the case for a 9/11 Conspiracy
his arguments:
1. it's never happened before
2. no large deformations associated with collapses
3. evidence of 10 key features of controlled demolition
4. bldg 7 falls straight down at freefall speeds
5. 700 "architects and engineers" demand investigation
6. pools of molten iron at site
7. office fires are 1400-1600 degrees, not 3000 degrees
8. iron found in dust which proves thermite was used
9. small chips of unignited thermite
10. "nano-thermite" found which is complex to make
all of these are irrelevant or just plain not true and been debunked over and over and over. i think a lot of people just lost their minds on 9/11 and are willing to believe the craziest thing they hear. it's pretty sad. but this richard gage dude apparently is making money off this by selling books and copies of a dvd and speaking fees. and he is NOT an architect as he claims in this video. so i think he's just a con man.
Richard Gage lays out the case for a 9/11 Conspiracy
>> ^shuac:
Here we go. Cue the uber-patriots: "So you're saying Bush colluded with the terrorists to kill thousands of people and destroy billions of dollars worth of property?? You morons! Downvote!"
Uh, no. No sane person is saying that. Try to pay attention.
What they're saying is quite simple: "There should be a thorough, independent investigation."
Capice?
Well, I agree that no sane person is saying that, Richard Gage is. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Seriously, if he says it's a controlled demolition and the implications of this are really 'dark' because of how secure these buildings are, what is that supposed to imply? Remember that the government's investigation clearly denies any kind of controlled demolition. You can't distance Richard Gage's claims from the argument that very high level officials were responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
Also notice he's moved up his claims from thermite to the much scarier nano-thermite. Throwing the word nano in helps rally in the choir he preaches to.
and more simply, BOOOOOO!
Richard Gage lays out the case for a 9/11 Conspiracy
Richard Gages presentation of the evidence
http://www.videosift.com/video/9-11-Blueprint-for-Truth-Compelling-Presentation