You underestimate me

>> ^papple:

>> ^Quboid:
Not to get political, but she (and I) are actually from Londonderry, not Derry, and it's in Northern Ireland, not the north of Ireland. If you mean Ireland in the geographical sense, as in the island of Ireland this is correct but this typically refers to the country, the Republic of Ireland.
It's a touchy subject and this topic has a little bit if history; where Graham Norton was brought up the city would have been referred to as Derry and places in Northern Ireland as being "in the north" without acknowledging the whole "terrorism" "one of the longest armed conflicts in recent history" "British occupation" can of worms.

If she says she's from Derry, she's from Derry. Also, I can't say that I've ever heard anyone use the phrase "North of Ireland" referring to the northern area of the Republic. The North/Northern Ireland/North of Ireland. I was typing out "she's from the North", as that would suffice locally, but this is the internet, so I just added the "of Ireland", thinking that nobody would be anal enough to correct me!

>> ^Quboid:

Not to get political, but she (and I) are actually from Londonderry, not Derry, and it's in Northern Ireland, not the north of Ireland. If you mean Ireland in the geographical sense, as in the island of Ireland this is correct but this typically refers to the country, the Republic of Ireland.
It's a touchy subject and this topic has a little bit if history; where Graham Norton was brought up the city would have been referred to as Derry and places in Northern Ireland as being "in the north" without acknowledging the whole "terrorism" "one of the longest armed conflicts in recent history" "British occupation" can of worms.


If she says she's from Derry, she's from Derry. Also, I can't say that I've ever heard anyone use the phrase "North of Ireland" referring to the northern area of the Republic. The North/Northern Ireland/North of Ireland. I was typing out "she's from the North", as that would suffice locally, but this is the internet, so I just added the "of Ireland", thinking that nobody would be anal enough to correct me!

Not to get political, but she (and I) are actually from Londonderry, not Derry, and it's in Northern Ireland, not the north of Ireland. If you mean Ireland in the geographical sense, as in the island of Ireland this is correct but this typically refers to the country, the Republic of Ireland.

It's a touchy subject and this topic has a little bit if history; where Graham Norton was brought up the city would have been referred to as Derry and places in Northern Ireland as being "in the north" without acknowledging the whole "terrorism" "one of the longest armed conflicts in recent history" "British occupation" can of worms.

Well, that was an easy one to disprove. Via Wikipedia:

Riots in the 1970s
1970 - Kent State shootings, May 1970, (Kent, Ohio, United States)
1970 - Hard Hat riot, Wall Street, May 8, 1970, (New York City, New York, United States)
1970 - Harakat Tahrir riots, June 17, 1970 El-Aaiun[citation needed]
1970 - Falls Curfew (Belfast, Northern Ireland on 3–5 July 1970)
1970 - Fatti di Reggio, July 1970, (Reggio Calabria, Italy)
1970 - Koza riot, December 20, (Ryukyu Islands, United States, later Okinawa Prefecture, Japan)
1971 - May Day Protests 1971, May 1971, (Washington, D.C., United States)
1971 - 1971 Springbok tour (Australia)
1971 - Camden Riots, August 1971, (Camden, New Jersey, United States)
1971 - Operation Demetrius (Northern Ireland on August 9–11, 1971)
1971 - Attica Prison uprising, (Attica, New York, United States)
1971 - Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
1972 - Bloody Sunday (Derry, Northern Ireland on 30 January 1972)
1972 - Operation Motorman (Northern Ireland on 31 July 1972)
1973 and 1974 - Athens Polytechnic uprising, Greek student riots and revolution at National Technical University of Athens, military junta overthrown, (Greece)
1973 - Oklahoma State Penitentiary Prison Riot, (McAlester, Oklahoma, United States)[citation needed]
1973 - Ageo incident, Tokyo Metropolitan Railways Riot,(Tokyo and Saitama, April 1973)[citation needed]
1974 - Cherry Blossom Festival at the Richmond Stadium, (Richmond, Virginia, United States)[citation needed]
1974 - Ulster Workers' Council strike (Northern Ireland, May 1974)
1974 - Ten Cent Beer Night, (Cleveland, Ohio, United States, June 4, 1974)
1975 - Chapeltown riot Leeds, West Yorkshire ,England
1975 - Nieuwmarkt riot, March - April 1975 (Amsterdam, Netherlands)
1975 - Livernois-Fenkell riot (Detroit, Michigan, United States)
1975 - European cup Final 1975, Leeds United riot in Paris
1976 - Vitoria Riots, March 3 (Vitoria, Basque Country, Spain)
1976 - Kobe Festival Riot by motorcycle gangs (Bōsōzoku), May 15 in Japan
1976 - Notting Hill Carnival Riot (London, England)
1976 - Soweto Riots (Soweto, South Africa)
1977 - 1977 Egyptian Bread Riots, January, 1977, (Egypt)
1977 - New York City Blackout riot, July 1977, (New York City, United States)
1977 - Sri Lankan riots of 1977, (Sri Lanka)
1978 - Rameeza Bee Riots, (Hyderabad, India)
1979 - Disco Demolition Night, (Chicago, Illinois, United States)
1979 - White Night gay riots, May 1979 (San Francisco, California)
1979 - Greensboro Riot/Shootings, Nov. 1979, (Greensboro, North Carolina, United States)
1979 - Southall Riots, (Southall, West London, England)

>> ^quantumushroom:

Of course, watching an atheist angered by a lack of morality in the populace is hilarious. People didn't regularly act this way 40 years ago. What changed?
Not everyone proclaiming to be a Christian follows Thou shalt not steal all the time, but more of them have values than the ones raised with....NOTHING.


So what's the reason that all these god-fearing, morally-informed-with-superior-'Christian'-values people engaged in riots? Ummm... maybe it is because the proximate causes of a riot are based on economic and societal conditions and not prevented by a 2000 year old book. Also worth noting in the list is included Bloody Sunday, which, if I remember correctly, was part of a conflict based on rival gangs within your beloved Christianity kicking the shit out of each other.

Its strange, anything happens in northern ireland and its rubber bullets, CS gas and water cannons, but when mobs are burning districts of London, suddenly the Police cant handle crowd control. Weird.

I'm gonna upvote this despite how depressing it is, I think this may be a famous clip demonstrating mans inhumanity to man or some such, or maybe just turds on the rampage.

>> ^moodonia:

Deano is correct, the name is Ireland if you are speaking english, the name is Eire if you are ag caint as gaelige (speaking in Irish).
Apparently the author was unaware of the significance of orange for northern Ireland in the youtube comments, slightly controversial lol
>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^Deano:
Just watching this again I'm pretty sure it's NOT The Republic of Ireland, just Ireland. IIRC.

The entire island that contains Northern Ireland is Ireland. The country that makes up the part of the island that's not Northern Ireland is The Republic of Ireland.



I did some more research and it does seem that you and @Deano are correct after all. "Republic of Ireland is a description in use since 1948.

For anyone who is curious, here's a link to the Republic of Ireland Act, 1948, which establishes "Republic of Ireland" as the state's description.

I do have to say being able to call the Irish state "The Republic of Ireland" sure would be handy for differentiating from the island. I suppose there's nothing stopping you, though. It's technically correct to refer to it as "the republic of Ireland" even if that's not its name. It's no different than saying "the state of New York".

Deano is correct, the name is Ireland if you are speaking english, the name is Eire if you are ag caint as gaelige (speaking in Irish).
Apparently the author was unaware of the significance of orange for northern Ireland in the youtube comments, slightly controversial lol

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^Deano:
Just watching this again I'm pretty sure it's NOT The Republic of Ireland, just Ireland. IIRC.

The entire island that contains Northern Ireland is Ireland. The country that makes up the part of the island that's not Northern Ireland is The Republic of Ireland.

Very informative. I'm Northern Irish and I typically just tell people I'm Irish when abroad, rather than explaining the whole Northern Ireland situation. If I say I'm British, people reasonably assume I'm from Britain and, most of the time, unreasonably assume I'm from England. Once people assume I'm from England, they assume I'm ... well, all the bad things that the video mentions about how the English are seen. If they think I'm Irish, I'm automatically adorable, which is a nice starting point for any relationship (seriously, I've had people, always Americans, buy me drinks just because I'm Irish! Awesome!).

>> ^Deano:

Just watching this again I'm pretty sure it's NOT The Republic of Ireland, just Ireland. IIRC.


The entire island that contains Northern Ireland is Ireland. The country that makes up the part of the island that's not Northern Ireland is The Republic of Ireland.

Eight years of Duhbya.>> ^kronosposeidon:

Q: What do you get when morality is based on ancient traditions superstition tea leaves card tricks faith?
A: Hmm, let's see..
- Roman persecution of Christians
- The Inquisition
- Thuggee murders
- Aztec human sacrifice
- Mountain Meadows Massacre
- Jonestown
- Witch trials
- Islamic Jihad
- The Holocaust
- The Crusades
- Thirty Years' War
- Armenian Genocide
- The Troubles in Northern Ireland
- The Taliban
and lest we forget
- The Middle Fucking East

Q: What do you get when morality is based on ancient traditions superstition tea leaves card tricks faith?

A: Hmm, let's see..

- Roman persecution of Christians
- The Inquisition
- Thuggee murders
- Aztec human sacrifice
- Mountain Meadows Massacre
- Jonestown
- Witch trials
- Islamic Jihad
- The Holocaust
- The Crusades
- Thirty Years' War
- Armenian Genocide
- The Troubles in Northern Ireland
- The Taliban

and lest we forget

- The Middle Fucking East

>> ^papple:
Yes, Dag, NI is within Great Britain.


Sorry, now you're arguing too far in the other direction.

Northern Ireland is within the United Kingdom, but not Great Britain.

'Great Britain' just means the largest of the British Isles. 'Great' being used in terms of size, not grandeur.
Great Britain consists of only England, Scotland and Wales.

>> ^papple:

But by all means, don't take my word for it. If you're ever in Ireland, please visit Cork and refer to the locals as "British". Please.


People are free to call themselves anything they wish. Personally I'm Welsh and hate it when Americans make the mistake of saying Wales is part of England, rather than Britain or the UK. However I believe if I'm to argue for accuracy in that respect then I have to be consistent.

Ireland is the second largest of the British Isles, it is a British Island, but not part of Great Britain.

As Videosift does not currently seem to have a Channel for Ireland it makes sense to me to include it in the British Channel.
Maybe a new Ireland Channel could be created and the British one re-named to Britain?

>> ^dag:
I was wondering more If NI is referred to - or if they refer to themselves that way.Some would refer to themselves as British, others Irish, with religion (Catholic/Protestant) playing a major role.



wiki has a perfect quote which articulates the situation better than I can!

wiki: "A 2006 report from the Institute of Governance stated that "Three-quarters of Northern Ireland’s Protestants regard themselves as British, but only 12 per cent of Northern Ireland’s Catholics do so. Conversely, a majority of Catholics (65%) regard themselves as Irish, whilst very few Protestants (5%) do likewise" and that "In Northern Ireland, very few respondents identify themselves as both British and Irish."