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Sexual Assault of Men Played for Laughs

bcglorf says...

Are we talking about the same video?

I'm very simply meaning that making jokes about horrible things like rape and murder isn't automatically endorsing them, and that depending on context the jokes can make the problem better, worse or somewhere in between. Not sure where objectification came in atop that?

At the very least a lot of war vets with PTSD have been helped by humor as a coping mechanism or as an opening to harder topics of conversation...

newtboy said:

I'm curious...in what way do they imply objectification is bad?
This is normalizing objectification.
It's not like someone saying jokingly "I'll kill you" and the office laughing, it's someone saying "I'll kill you" while sticking a knife into your liver and smiling, and the office laughing.
This isn't a joke about objectification, it's simply objectification, just like if they were all huge breasted sexy women in tight thin tank tops and little else.
If you want to excuse or allow objectification, do it. Someone will debate you on that. Don't just pretend it's not happening please. There's no discussion if one party denies reality.

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Mordhaus says...

From almost everything I've seen, most average Russians have a similar sense of crazy humor. Unfortunately they keep ending up with nutjob leaders, kind of like us.

newtboy said:

Double thanks.
Love them. They're so unapologetically insane. If only more Russians were like them.

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newtboy says...

1/2 the audience being devoid of humor didn't help.
That said, there have certainly been better years.

ChaosEngine said:

I get that, I just didn't think some of the jokes were particularly funny. That's cool, humour is subjective.

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newtboy says...

Yes....but the correspondents dinner is historically a light roast of the administration, one they are expected to attend and laugh at. By it's own standards, this year was fairly tame, but still way too much for the baby in chief and his babysitters who simply cannot take 1/10 of the disrespect they dish out.

We can't abandon humor at the right's expense just because they're incredibly thin skinned babies.

ChaosEngine said:

Trump is a fucking disaster at every conceivable level. He's a terrible president, a shitty businessman and a failure on the most basic human levels.

The question is: do we call this a special circumstance and disregard our own standards of civil discourse? Do we NEED to abandon etiquette (and possibly ethics) because the alternative is so much worse?

Or does that just play into his hands? Insulting Trump like this is kinda like playing chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

And THAT is his one skill.

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