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Ducks blown off their feet by the wind

Teaching Blue-Eyed Children to Hate Brown-Eyed Children

yellowc says...

I'm not terribly good with formatting these broken quotes, so excuse the cut off of your reply

There is definitely something to be said about standardising such a thing, I wouldn't be on board with a 2-day experiment as the norm, we don't really get to see if friendships were mended etc, so you have a point there. My comment was more about discussing the topic at that age level in a more serious way than just doing the old "ugly duckling" story.

There is something about discrimination that is hard to understand from just hearing it's wrong, it's horrible to wish the feeling upon someone but what I would try to aim for is the lighter more humbling discrimination. For example, if you come from a white dominant culture and travel to a different culture, you feel a little "reverse discrimination", it's not like a "I feel like crap for being hated" feeling, it's just more eye-opening.
>> ^MilkmanDan:

>> ^yellowc:
If you have an issue with the age of the kids in this video, maybe you should step back and actually listen to how they talk. They are MORE than capable of learning this lesson, I think people forget how switched on our brains are at that age. You'll also see they grew up just fine, why ignore that part when discussing how young they were.

I did listen to the kids. Many seemed highly uncomfortable with the experiment as it was happening (which is arguably the point), and their comments at the reunion as adults never really confirmed whether or not they were glad that they went through it in hindsight. I agree that young kids are often more clued in than we give them credit for, and also that this particular sample set "grew up just fine". I don't think that I ignored that in my original post - here's a snip:
>> ^MilkmanDan:
I think the teacher definitely had good intentions and arguably got good positive results; ie., her point was made and the lesson was learned, and learned in a much more weighty way than merely talking about it.

But to clarify, I still think that this particular methodology combined with this age group of students is a risky combination. If this was a standard teaching exercise probably most kids would go through it, benefit from learning the lesson, and have no real negative effects. But there would be a few for whom this experiment / lesson could potentially have long-lasting consequences; lost friends, confidence, etc. The consequences would probably not be severe, but eventually it boils down to a value assessment.
I'd concede the point that this technique teaches the lesson in a way that will have much more impact and be much more memorable than nearly any other (reasonable) approach. However I think that simply talking about discrimination at this age, asking the students to imagine how it would feel to be discriminated against on some arbitrary basis, etc. could have, say, 90% of the same positive effect. Follow that up with further contemplation, history, etc. when they are older and it might be 95-99% as effective. 99+% effectiveness with no risk of having things go too far seems most likely preferable to me.
I guess it is very open to differences in opinion, which is probably what makes it interesting. So, upvotes for the video and discussion!

Learning to fly the hard way

Learning to fly the hard way

Learning to fly the hard way

Truck runs red light, guess what comes next.

Ducks Best Friend

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Man saves ducklings from ledge.

cybrbeast says...

Nithern, you cannot compare human physiology with that of a duckling. They are soft and bouncy. The impact of something as a small duckling with such a high surface to volume ratio is much lower than that of a human.
Check this out, a mouse and a cat can survive a fall at terminal velocity.
http://everything2.com/title/How%2520far%2520can%2520an%2520animal%2520fall%2520and%2520survive%253F

Still it's very nice of the man, I just have my doubts about the necessity.

Man saves ducklings from ledge.

Nithern says...

Yes, you jump from 35 feet above the ground nad land on cement. See how well your legs, ankles and feet do. That's about the relative distance those ducklings had to jump. A good person, doing something nice. A mean or evil person would have just walked past.

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