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rottenseed (Member Profile)

Man who was sexually abused by catholic priests speaks out

poolcleaner says...

>> ^moodonia:
This is pretty much the last nail in the present Irish governments coffin, the present bunch (Fianna Fail as mentioned in the video) pushed through a sweet deal with the religous orders which left those responsible for torture, rape, slavery, suicide, neglect and I dont doubt, murder (theres a hell of a lot of anonymous mass graves linked to these places), paying only €128 million in compensation.
The tax payer however has to pay the other € BILLION and counting.
To put that in context, some nuns recently sold a single property in Dublin and got €105 million for it.
-Edit-
I cant recommend this video enough, its Christine Buckley speaking about her life in Goldenbridge Orphanage in Dublin:
http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=nightlynew
swithvincentbrowne&tv3_preview=&video=9205
I cant find an embeddable version, but its very powerful, be warned.


I just finished watching this video... Near the end a woman who was abused as a child at an institution said they had a dog that would run around biting off pieces of the kids legs and a monkey that would ride around on someone's shoulders masturbating while they ate rabbit feces.

... what the hell!

Man who was sexually abused by catholic priests speaks out

moodonia says...

This is pretty much the last nail in the present Irish governments coffin, the present bunch (Fianna Fail as mentioned in the video) pushed through a sweet deal with the religous orders which left those responsible for torture, rape, slavery, suicide, neglect and I dont doubt, murder (theres a hell of a lot of anonymous mass graves linked to these places), paying only €128 million in compensation.

The tax payer however has to pay the other € BILLION and counting.

To put that in context, some nuns recently sold a single property in Dublin and got €105 million for it.

-Edit-

I cant recommend this video enough, its Christine Buckley speaking about her life in Goldenbridge Orphanage in Dublin:
http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=nightlynewswithvincentbrowne&tv3_preview=&video=9205

I cant find an embeddable version, but its very powerful, be warned.

Man who was sexually abused by catholic priests speaks out

deputydog says...

shame we couldn't see the panel's response, if there was one.

transcript (from here)...

Start of transcript

Mr. Chairman, I’m surprised at the minister there now.

First of all Mr Minister (directed at Minister Noel Dempsey) you made a bags of it in the beginning by changing the judges. You made a complete bags of it at that time, because I went to the La Foy commission and ye had seven barristers there, questioning me and telling that I was telling lies, when I told them that I got raped of a Saturday, got a merciful beating after it, and then stuffed…

… he came along the following morning and put holy communion in my mouth.

You don’t know what happened there. You haven’t the foggiest, you’re talking through your hat there. And you’re talking to a Fianna Fáil man, a former councilor and former mayor you’re talking to, that worked tooth and nail or you, for the party that you’re talking about now. Ye didn’t do it right, ye got it wrong.

Admit it.

And apologize for doing that. Because you don’t know what I feel inside me. You don’t know the hurt I am.

You said it was non-adversarial.

My God.

Seven barristers.

Throwing questions at us.

Non-stop.

I tri.. attempted to commit suicide, there’s the woman who saved me from committing suicide, on me way down from Dublin, after spending five days at the commission. Five days I spent at the commission. They brought a man over from Rome, ninety odd years of age, to tell me I was telling lies.

That I wasn’t beaten for an hour, non-stop by two of them.

By two of them.

Non-stop from head to toe without a shred of cloth on my body.

My God minister.

And could I speak to you (comment directed to Leo Varadkar, Fianna Gael), and ask your leader, would you stop making a political football of this.

You hurt this when you do that.

You tear the shreds from inside our body.

For God’s sake, try and give us some peace.

Try to give us some peace and not to continue hurting us.

That woman will tell you how many times I jump out of the bed at night with the sweat pumping out of me. Because I see these fellas at the end of the bed with their fingers doing that (gestures) to me. And pulling me in to the room, to rape me, to bugger me and bate the shite out of me. That’s the way it is.

And you know what?

You know what, sometimes I listen to the leader of Fianna Fáil. I even listened to the apology. T’was mealy mouthed, but at least t’was an apology.

At least t’was an apology.

The Rosminians said in the report, they said they were easy on us. The first day I went to them. The first day to Rosminians in my home which is Ferryhouse in Clonmel, ’cause its the only home I know. He said “you’re in it for the money”.

We didn’t want money.

We didn’t want money. We wanted the pr… someone to stand up and say “yes, these fellas were buggered, these people were ra…”

Little girls. My daughter, oh sorry, my sister. A month old when she was put in to an institution. Eight of us from the one family, dragged by the ISPCC cruelty man. Put in to two cars, brought to the court in Clonmel. Left standing there without food or anything, and the fella in the long black frock and the white collar came along and he put us in to a van.

Not a van, a scut truck, I don’t know what you call it now. And landed us below with two hundred other boys. Two night later I was raped.

How can anyone…

You’re talking about constitution. These people would gladly say “yes” to a constitution to freeze the funds of the religous orders.

This state, this country of ours, would say “yes” to that constitition if you have to change it.

Don’t say you can’t change it.

You’re the governement of this state. You run this state. So for God’s sake stop mealy mouthing. ‘Cause I’m sick of it.

I’m sick of it.

You’re turning me away from voting Fianna Fáil which I have done from the first day that I could vote. Because. And you know me. You know me Mister Minister. You’ve met me on a number of ocassions. So you know what I’m like.

End of transcript

rottenseed (Member Profile)

alien_concept says...

Hell yeah! Couldnt've said it better myself. Oh and Dublin is in the Rep. of Ireland, not British

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
>> ^longde:
EDIT: OK, didn't know this dude was autistic. Even if it's high functioning.

Why do people treat high functioning autistic and retarded people as if they deserve a Nobel, yet hate on low functioning "normal" people? Where's the line that determines whether it's right to bully someone for being stupid or praise them for figuring out the Velcro on their shoes? I say it's all fair game or none of it is.

EDD (Member Profile)

rottenseed says...

I was unaware of any tribal *controversy. It's kind of like a the Philippines, some say it's Asia, some say "Pacific Islands". To tell you the truth, I could care less what they call themselves, it's easier for me to add them to a *british tag (for lack of an *Ireland channel).

Funny you reference wikipedia, because if you go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain

it's a different story...

In reply to this comment by EDD:
Irish ≠ Britons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles

but OK, I'll let it slide - this time ONLY though!.. I promise, I'll keep my eye on you...

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
Client: Guinness

Guinness made in Dublin

Dublin in Ireland which is part of Great Britain

*british

rottenseed (Member Profile)

EDD (Member Profile)

Fast Cars, Small Dogs

Domino's employees fired over YouTube videos

djsunkid says...

>> ^Memorare:
it aint just Dominoes kids, and it aint just boogers and buttwipes, and it aint just a little sick that you're likely to get.
=Every= restaurant where food is prepared out of public view by unsupervised employees has this going on.
The lawsuit needs to be against Dominoes to change how and where and under who's view food is prepared.
If you can't watch it being cooked or prepared, don't eat it.


You are SO wrong. I have never seen anything like this in over 10 years of working in food service. Actually, at the places where I've worked, we don't even JOKE about this kind of thing. And we joke about everything. The thing you don't fuck with is the food. Not food for each other, but ESPECIALLY not for the customers.

Maybe you don't understand how fucking hard the restaurant industry is, but we dedicate our LIVES to it, and don't expect very much in return. Our margins are so slim, the whims of the public are so fickle, more restaurants fail than succeed. Some of the greatest chefs in the world have restaurants that lose money. Even the great Gordon Ramsey had to shut his restaurant in Dublin. Our jobs are SO expendable, even if you are the best.

In the face of all of this adversity, we still persevere. We still create fantastic cuisine for you all. I like to think that it is the creativity of chefs that makes dinner time bearable. If it wasn't for chefs, we'd eating boiled meat and overcooked vegetables. Plain boiled potatoes, and no gravy. We don't do our jobs because we're trying to make civilization better, but it is a happy coincidence. We do our jobs because we are compelled to, maybe it is some defect in our personalities, but I like to call that defect Love. We do it for love.

These people aren't cooks. These people are nothing like my people. This doesn't happen in real restaurants. I've worked at many restaurants, and I've worked test shifts at many, many more. I've never seen behaviour ANYTHING like this. I would be reporting it to the health department straight away if I had. And I think that the dozens and dozens of chefs and cooks I've worked with would do the same.

Just because you saw waiting and think you know how it is doesn't make you an expert on restaurant kitchen culture. Try living it, and then come back and tell me what you saw.

As Drunk as Drunk Could Be

Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem - The Butcher Boy

jdbates says...

Very sad folk song, all the best ones are, not really sure it's english I'd heard it used with dublin. But it's one of those old songs that was sung before being written down, so who knows the origins.

Excellent Exchange With Maher, Rushdie, Hitchens and Def...

Irishman says...

It's not an American problem, the gap between America and Europe has been getting smaller every year, to the careful observer who pays attention.

However the UK has small pockets of places outside the cities where it is still possible to live a simple life.

Ireland and many European cities have now become super expensive to live, bringing people to the point of protest in the streets.

I could point at a wikipedia page that says different, or I could point to 13,000 people protesting in the streets of Dublin.

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