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luxintenebris says...

another head scratcher/gut churner/soul sighing show. it's way over time to get some patrols on the 'information highway'. the web of lies/undue social influence/bias reporting/echo chambers and general nastiness needs some lines of (lack of a better word) decency that nary be crossed.
it's been done before.
'fire in a crowed theater' put some measurement on of the definition of 'free speech'. there is a line where 'free speech' fails to be freedom & becomes the dungeons of despair.
it's a tough subject to gauge, but do trust caring* people can draw a 'line-in-the-sand' so young people don't kill themselves over cyber bulling. or hyper-partisan yodels don't attack random INNOCENT people. or where honesty and a love of variable facts becomes a touchstone.
it needs to happen.
this would be the (past) time to get all types together and hammer out some guidelines. Maybe, use existing laws. change the 230(#?) shield limits. AI monitoring. or have civil suits to sue, sue, and sue until the posting of anything that comes into a person's head, meets a reality check.
not against the exchange of ideas, challenges of the norms, or any free speech of merit (or even some of dubious value) -but just getting us out of the muck of the 'muddy minimum-maintenance roadway of disinformation'.
peace.


*extend that to all of the 'sick-of-this-s*it' folk)

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Bwaaahahaha! That’s absolutely not what you said, you said it will be great under the felon, booming all the time, everything will be amazingly better in every way…or crash immediately under Harris (just like you said in 2016 and 2020)….hypocritically hilarious that now you admit he will tank it. 😂

Also hilarious you want zero responsibility despite having 100% control….or it would be hilarious if your party wasn’t led by an infantile fascist with unregulated power and immunity for ignoring the constitution on a vendetta against over half the country.

The Biden economy is the envy of the entire world and far better than the first Trump economy unless you erase all his losses and only count successes. It is growing, not shrinking, manufacturing, gdp, jobs, wages, and earning power are ALL growing, deficit, inflation and interest shrinking..and every other metric is moving in a positive direction under Biden including the deficit. That will not continue under the bankrupter in chief. Hide and watch. He will double the debt and we will have nothing to show for it but another negative gdp.

GDP, stock markets, profits, jobs stupid, infrastructure, all measurably and significantly better under Biden than the felon, all better under Biden even erasing the omnibus disaster that was 2020 under Trump.

I blamed Trump for year 1 of Bidenomics because he kept most Trump policies, just as I will blame Bidenomics for the first 6 months to 1 year of Trumpenomics (depending on what he changes and how fast).

I just gave you the clear undisputed starting point numbers. Just like in 2016. I would bet whatever you want that, again, they will be worse after 4 years, but you Welch on bets so I’ll just make you a gentleman’s bet, those and all other economic numbers (except the personal wealth of the top 1%) will be worse in 4 years.

If he follows through with the mass deportations, that will trigger a depression.
If he kills the ACA with just a concept of a replacement, it will trigger a recession.
If he enacts 20% tariffs on imports, it will trigger a recession, followed by a trade war, followed by a global depression.
If he withholds federal funding from blue states as he has threatened, it will trigger a civil war.
The first tump administration was a slow train wreck (with a few actual train wrecks thrown in), the Biden administration has been a slow cleanup of that wreck…admittedly far too slow. The next 4 years are poised to be an ELE size meteor strike, making us wish for those halcion days of deregulated chemical train wrecks.

Yes. Never bet against the prejudices and stupidity of the average voter. Think how stupid the average person is, then realize fully half are actually stupider than that.

bobknight33 said:

Economic # will get worse, as I've said, regardless of who is POTUS.
It s slow motion train wreck , thanks to Bidenomics.

But go ahead blame trump.
I told you so.

Dems got their ass whooped . What an election night it was.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

I would like you to pin down EXACTLY how it will be “better”…because the economy was better under Biden, health was better under Biden, crime was better under Biden, deficit was better under Biden….so how EXACTLY will it be better, and pick something that is measured like crime or gdp or unemployment or average lifespan or the stock market, not something ephemeral based on your feelings. Then we can take today’s (or Jan 19ths) measure and see how 2, then 4 years change it. I doubt you’re prepared to stand by your statement, prove me wrong.

Once again, all the looting, burning, bombing, and shootings were right wing nutjobs, just like the two attempted assassins and all the violent Jan 6 insurrectionists. This will definitely embolden them. They may continue to pretend to be left wingers, like the Boogaloo boys did during the 2020 BLM protests, or they may finally feel secure enough to be honest about who they are and what they stand for (like the Boogaloo boys were in their written manifesto only found when they were caught after setting off bombs and shooting cops and blaming BLM).

The media has been on the felon’s side this election, sane washing him daily while scrutinizing her every syllable. Why do you expect a reversal? They’ve been bought by right wing billionaires and are still under threat of losing their license if they don’t pretend the felon is a virile genius superman who does literally everything right.

bobknight33 said:

Nope it will be a better 4 years than Bidens, But we ill have leftest lunatics with media stoking the flames of discontent. Just like last time.


Losers like you will drink it up --

Election Touchscreen Maps Deeper Look Inside Key Swing Voter

noims says...

I'd never thought of it that way. Everything is meaningless if you zoom in or out by enough orders of magnitude.

That actually gives us a relatively objective measure for the meaningfulness of any action, especially if you factor in a time dimension. You can literally draw a 3-d shape of this post, or of this election, or of climate change, or of a supernova.

Yes, I've been drinking. And I'm not even involved in this election!

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Enough Is Enough

cloudballoon says...

Yeah right, he's the epitome of healthy huh?

True, there are far too many chemicals (declared or otherwise on the labels) and we need to regulate a ton out of the food system, his (Trump/Kennedy) idea is dumb as shit. We need more regulation and less Big Food lobbists in Washington.

I'm Canadian, and let me tell you we aren't that much better nor that different than our Southern neighbor in our diet. Stuff we see & buy in the "Big Chain" (of which 3 companies control like 70% of all groceries) supermarkets are 90% the same stuff (and brands) in the USA. If we live slightly longer and healthier, it's probably about moderation. It's crazy looking at the portions we're served at restaurants whenever we're down in the States. And no amount of regulation, or lack thereof, can change that.

Legal Eagle summarises why Americans should vote for Kamala

noims says...

Agreed. As an outsider the scariest thing to be here is that Trump even has a chance. The fact that he's that bad and he still has that much support shows that something has gone horribly wrong with American 'democracy' and bodes terribly for the future.

This will end badly unless something fundamental changes. It's just a case of when.

ReverendTed said:

the problems that allowed his rise (the polarization and bifurcated post-truth echo chamber media) will still exist

Legal Eagle summarises why Americans should vote for Kamala

newtboy says...

He has no arguments period, or any individual thought left in his head. That’s why every post now is nothing but a cut and paste propaganda short produced by Putin. His brain is mush.

He might have changed when it came out that all his talking heads are on Putin’s payroll, but he has nothing else to say so he continues to regurgitate their propaganda. It’s truly a sad state of being he finds himself in…but he has ensured he deserves zero sympathy after years of snarky fascism, racism, sexism, and pure lies.

noims said:

Yep. As expected. No actual arguments against what's in my post. I rarely downvote comments, but I feel obliged after watching them out of obligation.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...


Fox knows

Fox knows the $157 million paid to Kushner by Saudi Arabia for $0 in return is a blatant bribe to the Trump family for past policy changes and future considerations too….everybody knows. ZERO IN PROFIT BY THE FUND….it’s actually $157 million losses because they paid him. Hunter made his foreign investors money and got paid a few million in profits…Jared lost his foreign investors tons of money, and still got paid $157 million and counting.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

A yougov poll proves that the majority of maga idiots believe the debunked stupid nonsense you spew.
Idiotic nonsense like children getting secret sex changes at school, post birth abortions are happening in America, kids can identify as cats and use a litter box in public schools, migrants are eating pets, America provided most of the Ukraine funding, inflation is the highest it’s ever been, millions of migrants are arriving every month, etc. every single one is demonstrably false, and fortunately for the country independents know it, less that 20% believe the stupidity and the rest are insulted at the stupid lies.
Yes, it is absolutely verified that to be maga you must be stupid and gulible. They’re your people, for sure.

“I have your back, I have your heart….i have every other part of your body.” Yeah, that’s not weird or creepy coming from a rapist, pussy grabbing pedo.
Because I know you’re hiding from who your own Governatorial candidate is, take a listen to a few of his decade old posts about pissing on his sister while having sex with her and more…stuff you won’t hear on tv because they’re far too disgusting….

Latest Failed Assassin Arrested On Florida Highway

newtboy says...

What’s that? You see another wolf?
Both are definitely verified to be 100% hard core MAGA. Nice try. Too bad you have zero believability after 14 years of idiotic nonsensical lies and absolutely nothing more. (blm killing cops (oops, I mean far right boogaloo boyz trying to blame blm) ANTIFA on Jan 6 (oops, not a single non MAGA found attacking democracy) Pelosi was a lover’s spat (more likely from either shooter, they once loved the child rapist). The election was stolen (the felon tried to steal it, but was too incompetent). Every claim you make is stupidity mixed with anger at your own failures and spiced with racism.). But you keep shouting “WOLF! WOLF WOLF!” and see how that works out for you. I certainly wouldn’t expect you to look into how it worked for others in the past. 😂

Both had mental issues….both still attained assault style weapons after Trump repealed a law that barred people who are mentally ill from purchasing guns.

Both supported Trump. One voted for him and recently supported Nicky Haley not Biden or Harris, and once reportedly donated $10 to support democracy in Ukraine (the reason he turned on Trump, is that why you say he’s a democrat…because he’s pro-democracy?), the other was too young to vote but every single person who knew him said he was 100% far right MAGA, his motive is fame, the alleged donation to vote blue was quickly debunked as another person in another state at another age but with the same first and last name, a claim that was verified to be wrong week one after the shooting. Both were 100% MAGA, no question, verified a dozen ways over. More baseless lies from the liar ignoring all actual evidence to believe some stupid nonsense based on known falsehoods, or to just lie about the facts because they’re bad for him…shocked!

We all know you can’t admit it, we know you are incapable of admitting any mistake or lie because it’s all you have, but we also all know the truth, and the truth is BOTH ARE FAR RIGHT WING MAGA GUN NUTS THAT USED ASSAULT RIFLES (that Joe had banned in the 90s but the right removed the ban) TO ATTEMPT TO ASSASSINATE POLITICIANS THAT ARE NOT FAR RIGHT ENOUGH. (Cozying up to Putin is not right wing, btw)

It should be noted, his secret service detail told him repeatedly that he could not be safeguarded at that course because it had public roads and homes bordering multiple holes and it could not be secured. He went there anyway, and now blames the secret service.

At best you are a Russian troll, but I don’t give you credit for that kind of intelligence…in reality you are an uneducated gullible idiot that buys every bit of AntiAmerican propaganda Putin feeds you because you honestly hate modern America and aren’t bright enough to see reality. I haven’t noticed one you missed, and absolutely know there isn’t a single time you have admitted they tricked you into spreading the Russian based lies despite it being proven daily. You haven’t said a word about your favorite failures in mommy’s basement all being caught getting paid hundreds of thousands a month to spread anti American Russian propaganda, or the right wing media and politicians that picked up that dishonest propaganda and ran with it (like you did every single time).

I go to the “Putin’s puppet” line because you and the felon keep repeating the lies he keeps feeding you, then pretending you didn’t even as you spread the next one. You and he are Putin puppets. Putin, and El-Sisi ($10 million cash bribe to change official policy towards Egypt still completely unexplained and growing as Barr testified Trump forced him to end the investigation into the bribe that was looking bad in 2017, and is restarting. Another case of the felon selling out America for $.). Same thing as Menendez, and Dems threw him to the wolves without defense when he was caught…you just keep on defending the felon as he sells out America to pay his enormous legal bills. The best thing you could possibly say is admitting you are too stupid and ignorant for it to be intentional….maybe….it would be impossibly hard to believe even you are that dense.

bobknight33 said:

Both are DEMOCRATS. Both donated to Democrat Act Blue fundraising ordinations.


Are worst you live in fake news.
At best you are a tool for the left.


Always going to the Putin puppet line.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Another MAGA gun nut tried to assassinate the felon. A Trump voter turned Haley supporter.
Why does MAGA want to murder Trump?

Oops…JD Vance admitted on CNN that he created the eating cats story to get people to talk about immigration….yes, he unambiguously admitted he made it up to get you upset over immigration and trick you into voting for him because they lose on any other topic. HE FUCKING ADMITTED IT PLAINLY.
You still believe it, don’t you? You believed the old video of an American citizen having a psychotic break in another town and killing a cat somehow proved it was true…because you are an amazingly gullible ignoramus who always prefers lies to facts.

JD Vance aligned himself with the Proud Boys who are assaulting legal migrants and committing terrorist acts like bomb threats in Ohio based on the lies Vance admits he made up.
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxY8AoaokfAu99VPcMKJWos9L4E6gx8QCQ

Still no explanation for the $10 million cash bribe paid to the felon by Egypt right before he changed US policy for Egypt’s benefit.

Margin of error beaten in all recent polls.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

They’re all 100% for sale, and you keep buying it. 😂



Shocker! Trump officials, namely Dimitri Simes, is directly involved in hiring up to 30 right wing “influencers” and “News producers” to spread Russian propaganda and has been charged for secretly working for hostile foreign powers under sanctions. The felon has said clearly he will drop all sanctions against Russia on day one (and hand them Ukraine).

When is the felon going to explain the $10 million he took from Egypt, or the policy changes he made immediately afterwards?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

I wonder…are you idiotic and delusional enough to believe the lie the felon is now repeatedly telling, that minor students are going to school in the morning and coming home having had a secret, parentally unauthorized sex change surgery during the school day (I guess on the school’s dime)?
Do you even think he is that idiotic and delusional, or does he just think you are?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

“Even CNN” has been caught knowingly packing their “independent voters” panels with hard core Trumpers they called independents despite the voters saying clearly they intended to vote for Trump and no one else.
This is what happened when CNN went far right with Chris Licht…they abandoned truth to court maga, the anti truth party.

Just 2-3 weeks ago according to maga RFK jr was a “communist Marxist”, a pedophile, the most hard core leftist in the race, and an absolute nut job whose brain was eaten by worms and Trump said even Biden would be much better than RFK jr. while RFK jr called the felon a criminal sociopath who nearly ended democracy in America and would destroy the economy.
He tried to quit weeks ago and endorse Harris for a promise of a job in the Harris administration, and she wouldn’t take his call, and now endorsed Trump (for a guarantee of a job in his administration, exactly what position is yet to be determined)…today after selling out you call him an impressive American hero you proudly stand with (and who may replace Vance next week, he’s already more prominent in the campaign releases).
He didn’t change one bit except for the endorsement, why is he suddenly acceptable? 😂



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