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Dennis Kucinich v. Glenn Greenwald on Citizens United

bmacs27 says...

Yea, I hate to say it, but the left really seems to have no idea how convoluted and potentially dangerous legislating this issue is. Diogenes is on the right track, and even (gasp) GeeSussFreeK gets it. We aren't concerned with whether or not a corporation can hand over billions of dollars to a campaign. That seems relatively straightforward. At issue is whether a corporation can buy a billion dollars worth of advertisements perceived to be supporting a particular candidate or position. Once you put it like that, it seems much dicier. Who decides whether an ad is political if it isn't expressly stated that way? How could we even effectively limit that sort of activity without risking limitations on legitimate political speech? I mean, do we want to tell the Audubon Society they can't run advocacy campaigns in an election year? Or do we just want to tell people they can't donate to the Audubon Society in an election year? See the problem?

The fact is money has always been a factor in amplifying speech. It's one of the reasons Ben Franklin was so powerful (via his control of the presses). However the first amendment was enshrined anyway. Now, I still sympathize with the notion that something is wrong with our political process, and it looks to be something like green paper with president's faces on it. However, a means to effectively fixing it without severe (potentially worse) unintended consequences is still a mystery to me.

TDS: bird like me

xxovercastxx says...

Too much focus on the Audubon Society, I think. Direct your anger at all the people who don't give a shit at all. The AS is at least helping these people, if indirectly, and it seems to me they're not doing it by accident.

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dotdude says...

The only thing about Pollock is too often folks will say "my kid can do that" or my "dog can do that." However, I remember reading something from the science community about what Pollock did with his technique.

This made me think of these two books. Each one treats the animals as living artists and discusses their works.

http://www.artybees.co.nz/bizarre-book-images/burton-silver-is-a-genius/why-cats-paint.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1580082440.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

By the way, there is a sea lion artist named Sushi at the Audubon Zoo. Her abstract paintings are sold.

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