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DOGE Is Not Cutting Government Spending

kir_mokum says...

the amount of effort you put in to misunderstand the world around is truly impressive.

the criticism of the amount is because that is that standard that DOGE itself has claimed to be important. the criticism is that DOGE is lying and not successful by the the very standards DOGE has defined. the "left" is not pissed that it is an insignificant amount. the "left" is pissed that it has done so much damage, real damage, purely for the optics of having saved so little money, which it hasn't even done.

bobknight33 said:

The question is not that cutting 5 million, 70 million, 5 billion etc, in which DOGE cuts represents approx 2% of the budget.

The question is why is the left so pissed at such a insignificant amount?

DOGE Is Not Cutting Government Spending

newtboy says...

*promote *quality facts

Economists agree, the at random blanket cuts to cost saving agencies and programs being made at random are not saving any money at all, they are costing money and services while hurting citizens by ending hard negotiated assistance programs, which is the point not saving money.

The under 1% ($115 billion maximum if you believe the constant liars) of the budget cut at random will cost over 10% of gdp, put hundreds of thousands out of work permanently, put millions on the streets homeless with nothing left to lose by robbing people and everything to gain, it has already cost thousands their farms or ranches or businesses, slowed commerce to a crawl, and has already been spent like a drunken sailor 100 times over on unnecessary things like raising the military budget by $120 billion and a now $6 trillion tax break (and rising) for the 1% and a self imposed $7-$11 trillion loss in the stock market just to name 3 of dozens of massive expenditures.

If only these really were savings and not simply wealth transfers from the poor to the uber-rich, states like California (that pays for the welfare that goes to red states) would be 100% in favor of them, we can pay for our own social programs and save the 90% of our tax dollars we pay for yours, but Texas and Florida and the other red welfare states will go bankrupt this year without the tens of billions a year they take from blue states with healthy economies (Texas paid $18 billion in and took $89 billion out from the fed as just one example).
Notice, no rebate checks are coming, your taxes aren’t going down one cent, but all the services and protections they have historically provided are either going or already gone.

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Not born yet receive Tax Dollars

newtboy says...

As expected. All 100% bullshit.

These “unborn recipients” were largely created in 2020 when unemployment fraud and identity theft were rampant during the Trump economic crash (over 15% of the millions of unemployment claims were fraudulent) and agencies were directly encouraged to protect real citizens from the consequences of these identity thefts by tying the fraudulent applications to BLATANTLY fake people, like people who weren’t born or were over 150 years old, to preserve the records of the fraud but not in the victim’s name and file.
This all stems from a Trump era classification system, coming directly from the first Trump administration, and now they pretend they know absolutely nothing about it and call it fraud. Much like his trade agreement he made with Mexico and Canada that he now calls horrible for America, or the trade agreements he made with China he says lets them rip us off. 😂

Another case of the idiots calling out their own incompetence, like canceling $8 million contracts after payment has been made and calling that a “savings” of $8 billion (when it’s actually a waste of $8 million).
Now Musk is claiming to have “saved” $115 billion (without showing his work this time, so no fact checking) so Trump has promised to raise military spending by $120 billion, so $5 billion more debt than savings already in one move IF you believe the numbers from the man who hasn’t been able to support 1% his claims yet. Not one dime of taxpayer money “saved”.
Maybe Musk should hire an economist who understands numbers, not just incel neoNazi IT guys ironically named “big balls” who can’t do the most basic of math or accounting.

Not born yet receive Tax Dollars

Not born yet receive Tax Dollars

bobknight33 says...

Like Must has a nefarious reason to save tax dollars.

newtboy said:

Not one word true.
Just like the millions of people over 150 they claimed are collecting checks, but not one dollar was sent.
More maga bullshit lies trying to erase Social Security based on pure lies so billionaires can get higher tax cuts while you pay for tariffs.

None of these maga claims have turned out to be true.

JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

$7 TRILLION evaporated in two days.
Almost 30% of gdp. Only $20 Trillion to go before the country has zero. Pretty sure that’s the plan.

JiggaJonson said:

How's that 401k?
Who's the unhinged one talking nonsense?
Blah blah blah go on make excuses for why the market is doing what its doing

It's interesting how you can like Loosely pull together reasons why Biden's policy affected the economy this way or that way but it's always very indirectly. It's interesting how there is no ambiguity here, this is Donald J Trump's fault. Go on make excuses for the Führer

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newtboy says...

OMG! The way they determined their “retaliatory tariffs” was to divide what the countries sell America by what they buy from America (the trade gap, not tariffs).
This took a 7% tariff in China and to match us China raised it to 35% based on this idiotic random methodology they decided on.
How did they figure out this metric? They asked CHATGPT to develop a tariff policy for them (without it knowing basic economics or the difference between a trade gap and a tariff).
If you input "What would be an easy way to calculate the tariffs that should be imposed on other countries so that the US is on even playing fields when it comes to trade deficit? Set minimum at 10%." into ChatGPT you get the exact tariff plan they proposed, with the exact same complete misunderstandings of economic terms and realities (like the fact that the US buys more than we sell by choice, or that uninhabited areas can’t be tariffed effectively).

Shocker, because American doesn’t produce products, every country sells us more than we sell them….chatgpt didn’t understand this is by our own design.

So far nearly $4 trillion gone from the stock market, (edit, now day 2, over $7 trillion gone and much more going) and many trillions more lost in cancelled international orders. Q2 will be known as the start of the Trump Depression from now.

Anybody else notice even uninhabited Antarctic islands were included, but not Russia or N Korea? No explanation, they’re just exempted. I know one moron who doesn’t think that means Putin has Epstein tapes of the felon and 13 year olds (maybe 13 year old boys), but he’s the only one.

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newtboy says...

Now…if only they would finally start production.

They’ve had working prototypes for years now. Glad to see it on a road trip, but they need to start producing them.

Don’t forget, they may be using the Tesla model….taking huge grants and pre orders dragging their feet in hopes of more money invested despite having no product. That’s exactly what they did in 2010 when they took thousands of $500 pre orders and millions from investors and closed the doors. This may be another scam, they’ve had 6 years with a design and tens of thousands of paid preorders with no cars produced….again.

Expected production start has been rolled back every year since the company reopened in 2019 because of unnecessary redesigns. It’s a good bet they will never start production….which sucks because what they promised was great.

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