newtboy said:

I don’t know either way yet, but what do you want to bet on John Gray's (of Goshen Ohio, look it up) political leanings?
(Hint: He’s the Goshen Ohio school board president just caught trying to meet an 11 year old for sex, a charge which he admitted on camera was true.)

I’m pretty certain he’s going to turn out to be Republican, over well over 2/3 of his district is.
Gentleman’s bet?

Party of debauchery, eh? Ever heard the saying “he who smelt it, dealt it”?

newtboy said:

Not true, you used to praise them…especially Yertle….but your memory has never been your strong suit.
Not Cheney? Or did you just forget who to hate?
Sad for you the (anti) freedom caucus that I know you love is likely going to be ineligible to hold office…Cawthorn only escaped by redistricting the plaintiffs out of his district and technically invalidating their lawsuit….another is probably in the pipeline. MTG’s was given the green light in court yesterday….bye Felicia.

You might be shocked to hear….Pelosi….and any others over 70. That should be forced retirement time, for judges and presidents too….no control over a society when you won’t have to see it deal with the consequences of your actions, says I.

Senima and Manchin too… neither of which have ever been Democrats, they’re secret Q nut jobs and on the take big time.
Edit: literally minutes after writing that I found Senima’s latest poll numbers in her district….17% approval, 75% disapproval! It looks like I’ll get that wish at least.

Also, Al Frankenstein needs to be replaced…re-placed back in office. He should never have left. He wasn’t just funny, he’s smart as fuck and knowledgeable too.

newtboy said:

This is you party? This is you pick…. over America, democracy, and decency?

You choose the Anti-American, Anti-democracy failed wannabe conmanarch (just coined that word, not a typo) and his self serving hypocritical directionless sycophants over democracy and rule of law?…and you really think anyone believes you’re even an American, much less a patriot? No one here thinks that, not for a decade +.

It is to laugh.

PS…..Bayraktar, comrade. I hope they’ve taken out some of your close family by now….more neonazi russian scumbags turned to compost….the best thing they ever did.

newtboy said:

LMFAHS!! Did you hear Trump’s latest Fox interview/call in when he berated the host for telling people about OUR amphibious attacks during our current invasion of Ukraine?!? Complaining she was giving away state secrets by reporting troop movements. (These were reports on the Russian amphibious attacks, btw).

Q: which is it….does Trump think the US is invading Ukraine, who he considers an enemy, or did he forget that he’s not supposed to be on Russia’s side….or does he not know where he is or what’s happening and is just blathering in his confused dementia?

newtboy said:

You claim to be an engineer that couldn’t pass 6th grade English. Knowing many engineers, actually being raised by one (dad was a chemical engineer by trade, creating new molecules for specific purposes) I do understand that language is sometimes not a strong suit, but I’ve never known one with half your struggles in that area, including the maintenance and disposal engineers at the company lab.

Passing basic English is a requirement for a degree, even an engineering degree, at every reputable university in America.

You’ve shown not only a severe deficiency in language skills, but also in math. For instance, recently deriding Obama, lamenting the nation returning to what you were told was an appallingly low GDP of near 2% but you are unable to realize it was near double the often negative GDP under Trump, who finished his single term with a GDP of 1% per year….basic and simple math. (So you know, if Biden’s first year has a GDP of 2%, that’s an increase of 5.5% from last year, and double Trump’s 4 year average).
It’s impossible to be an engineer without good math skills, and you have not demonstrated any over the years.

It begs the question, did you get your degree from a Trump (or similar) school? (You know, the ones closed for being diploma mills with no accreditation, the ones Trump had to pay students back from and admit they were cons, fraudulent schools).
Something doesn’t add up.

newtboy said:

Poor Bob.
Every case of voter fraud found I’ve heard of was committed by a Republican bar one, a Democrat who’s husband died but she cast his vote anyway….for Trump. That’s 399 Republican cases, one semi-Democrat….or as you say, both sides….good people on both sides. 🤦‍♂️

Yes, I’ve had enough Republican voter fraud, schemes from single fraudulent votes to ballot harvesting and changing to schemes to throw out millions of votes based on Republican lies and false claims. Voter ID doesn’t address any of the fraud that actually happens.

Remember Trump’s national commission looking at voter fraud, the voting integrity commission….from 2017!? Remember how it quietly disappeared because they couldn’t find ANY fraud? Back then Trump said he would make certain there wasn’t any fraud going forward….what happened? That seemed vitally important to you people. Did he just forget? Did he fail miserably? Or did he make up the fraud fraud because his ego can’t accept that he lost in a historic landslide?

That said, under 400 possible cases nation wide, barely any in person frauds at all, none capable of changing the outcome of any elections (well, there actually was a mayoral race I read was overturned because of one fraudulent vote scheme by one candidate, but that wasn’t in person and the system caught it) …that is absolutely not a reason to disenfranchise millions of voters (I remind you that’s exactly what Republicans called for when you lost in 2020…just throw out any votes in areas where you claimed an individual fraud, invariably areas where Democrats won). It’s not a reason to put up road blocks that disenfranchise millions by putting poll taxes and hurdles in place.

I support a voter ID, if the ID is free and obtainable by anyone regardless of their documentation….but that makes it worthless. If the ID costs money, that’s a poll tax, and illegal. If the requirements to get the ID cost money, that’s a poll tax and out. If the affluent can obtain the ID easily, but the indigent have to spend a day or more in line to get one, no. Issue free national ID to everyone, including homeless, then it’s not too much of an obstacle. I think voting should be an obligation for every citizen over 18…I’ve never skipped an election even though I rarely like who I can vote for.

I point out that a voter ID law would do almost nothing to combat any fraud, because in person fraud isn’t the issue. Falsely claiming fraud is the issue. Republicans trying to defraud the system with fraudulent electors is a problem. Republicans harvesting mail in ballots from the elderly and filling them in for Republican candidates is a problem. Voter ID doesn’t address these problems, the real election fraud issues with real consequences, instead they target the poor with clear intent to dissuade them from exercising their rights, effectively blocking millions of votes from fear one invalid vote might be cast. That is the intent, and the result…not election security, but massive vote denials of a targeted population.

How about imagining requiring a firearm ID, required to buy, own, or possess a firearm, with fees, renewal fees, and documentation requirements to obtain….oh wait, I don’t have to, someone in congress suggested it (in the 90’s I think) and the right lost it’s fucking mind over the draconian government trampling their rights…but similar requirements to vote, sure, that’s fine because the ID they already have is acceptable….fuck the rights of people who don’t have a drivers license.
In person voter fraud is not an issue, voter ID solves a problem that doesn’t exist and creates a major problem for millions….intentionally.

His ratings are crappy largely because he’s not doing enough, not because of what he’s done. He needs to replace Garland with someone willing to prosecute sedition against representatives and ex presidents. They’re in the shitter because 35% (you) automatically disapprove simply because he’s not Trump, and 35% disapprove because he’s not replacing Trump era policy enough. I’m in the latter category, as are most people I know, but we understand that without congress functioning there’s little he can do, and Republicans have the practical majority even though they’re the minority on paper. Keep killing off right wingers and maybe that will change this year, but I’m not holding my breath.

Lol. Failed economy? Sorry, Trump is the one who gave us a negative GDP, tens of millions unemployed, and an unmitigated pandemic with a cadre of morons unwilling to believe in it or take any safety measures to combat it. My portfolio lost 8-10% over 4 years under Trump, it gained over 30% in one year under Biden. If that’s failing, keep failing! GDP near -3% in 2020…+4% 2021…predicted to be 9% 2022. -3%!!! And you want to talk economy?! You fucktard.
Inflation….Trump printed 1/3 of every dollar circulating! That’s what causes inflation, you devalue the dollar when you print more. The market takes time to react….there’s going to be more coming to pay for Trump’s spending spree. Dumbass.
Covid! You’ve got to be fucking kidding me! Covid is a right wing (Trump) caused issue, made much worse by far right insanity of denial and conspiracy, and now nearly all hospitalization and death is anti vaxers, who are nearly all far right nutters that followed Trump’s “lead” and who’s heads exploded when he recently told them to get vaccinated. Look at “leftist” countries like New Zealand to compare a leftist government’s response results. (52 deaths). Moron.

Trump’s tax rates didn’t improve unemployment rates, or the economy. They didn’t trickle down. Growth went negative under those cuts, unemployment went to double digits! Debt and deficit went into orbit, rising faster than ever by miles….but that didn’t matter one whit to you when it was Republican debt and deficit, a much worse Republican economy, and insanely higher Republican unemployment rates. Idiot.

Holy fuck. Talk about ignoring reality. What color is the sky in your world? Is the ocean in the air with fish swimming overhead there?!

newtboy said:

And now Republicans in at least 5 states have been caught having submitted matching forged election documents, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona (twice), Wisconsin, and Michigan. These forgeries, complete with forged seals from their respective states, attempted to “certify” fraudulent electors from those states that intended to cast their electoral votes for Trump despite their states voting for Biden, that vote being certified, and the real electors being certified.
Pennsylvania too, but they didn’t try to claim they were the electors, they claimed they would be the electors if a court invalidated the election results….created at the direct personal request of the DJTrump campaign.

Jeff Clark, of the DOJ, drafted a letter telling states to hold off on certification because the DOJ was investigating election irregularities…..but they weren’t and the DOJ head, the AG, refused to sign off, so Trump accepted his resignation, the resignation of the assistant AG, and tried to install Clark so they could send this fraudulent letter about a non existent investigation of non existent election fraud. In that letter he referenced the “second set of electors” two weeks after these forgeries were submitted to congress and elsewhere but long before that was public knowledge.

Another few attempts by Republicans to subvert democracy.

Apparently Trump also flew the idea of having the national guard confiscate all voting machines and rerunning the election (until he won).

Why the entire party isn’t banned from holding office is beyond me, your representatives all undeniably violated (and continue to violate) section 3 of the 14th amendment, and you’ll never get 2/3 of congress to let that slide.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

For the few that weren’t directly involved in the failed coup, the “aid and comfort” clause covers their behavior since.

newtboy said:

Interesting tact….in the Arbery case, where three white men decided to hunt and murder an unarmed black jogger trying to escape their murderous racist human hunt…and I’m positive you stand with the killers…the defense has complained that the family shouldn’t be allowed to have any BLACK pastors sit with them…alleging they already had Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or whoever that black pastor was (holy shit, buddy)…then saying having their black pastor with them was like if the court was filled with men in white robes wearing Colonel Sanders masks.
Really?
Not a good argument when your clients are accused of a racist murder.

newtboy said:

Not exactly, but the source isn’t really the question, is it.
Point to something not true. I can do that every single time you post some cut and paste propaganda. At least I give you the courtesy of watching/reading my sources and giving you a synopsis.
But you can’t point to a factual error. That’s why you just summarily dismiss it. It saves you from failing at debunking it.

Maybe look it up. Just because it’s not covered on OAN doesn’t mean it isn’t verifiable fact, in fact it makes that more likely.

newtboy said:

….and now, CyberNinjas, the propaganda company hired by AZ Republicans for their boondoggle, spending $12 million+ on a worthless, unprofessional, incomplete vote review that ended up finding zero evidence of fraud (besides individual Republican frauds) and widened the gap Biden won by by about 300 votes, is still refusing to comply with court orders to turn over all their documents and work product from months ago, and have stopped responding to anyone including Ms. Karen Fann who hired them. This puts HER in contempt of court and facing massive fines and jail time.
I love it when a plan comes together.

One more massively wasteful Republican fraud, one you want to repeat at least 50 times if not more, at a cost of $12 million +…..only to lose even worse and find nothing. It’s not the only one, too. Others are finding more votes for Biden, or disqualifying votes counted for Trump. None are finding Democrat fraud, none are finding votes for Trump.
Oh, and Trump isn’t using your donations to fund them, he knows he lost fairly, but he’s sure as fuck fundraising using them to sucker hundreds of millions from rubes like you. Check on it, he hasn’t spent a dime on election fraud.

newtboy said:

Ruh roe….. Coordinators of the coup were working directly with Paul Gosar, Lauren Bovert Mo Brooks, Madison Cawthorne, Andy Biggs and Louie Gohmert pre planning the attack. Katrina Pearson, former Trump aide was on some of those calls. She acted as what they call the liaison between these, uh, organizers and the white house itself. And of course direct contact with Mark Meadows. all coordinated with the planners of the riot at the capitol before the attack. Reports are that Gosar may have, according to these individuals, offered them blanket pardons on Trump’s behalf for whatever the hell was going to happen that day.


D’oh! Becoming more and more obvious why Trump is terrified White House records of those interactions might be presented as evidence. Promising preemptive blanket pardons for people planning to commit treason against the US is treason. Too bad ex presidents can’t invoke privileges….not.

Edit: and…..today it was revealed that on Jan 6 Trump made repeated phone calls to the coup command center manned by Bannon at a nearby hotel, but not The Trump hotel because they wanted to pretend Trump wasn’t involved….but moron that he is, Trump couldn’t help but call every 5 minutes to get updates and give directions. These calls from the whitehouse would likely be recorded too. Ruh roe!

newtboy said:

Your people are pleading guilty to everything you blamed on liberals.

A man from Texas pled guilty to shooting into a Minneapolis police station during the 2020 George Floyd protests. He wanted to sow chaos so he fired an AK-47 style weapon into the police station, hoping the protesters would be blamed.

A man named Ivan Harrison hunter 24 was in Minneapolis protesting the killing of George Floyd. The Texas man pleaded guilty on September 30th to a federal riot charge. He admitted he traveled to Minneapolis after George Floyd died to sew mayhem. Ivan Harrison Hunter 24 admitted he traveled from the San Antonio area to Minneapolis after Floyd's death and fired 13 shots from an AK-47 style semi-automatic rifle into the Minneapolis Police Department's third precinct building on May 28, 2020. footage taken that night shows the hunter in a skull mask giving someone a high five after firing the shots and yelling justice for Floyd. Hunter admitted he traveled to Minneapolis to sow chaos during the protest following George Floyd's death. He is a self-proclaimed member of boogaloo boys, the far-right anti-government extremist group…members appeared at black lives matter protests, committed crimes, and pretended they were BLM protesters.
Boogaloor's believe a second civil war known as the boogaloo is imminent. and will result in the overthrow of what they believe is a corrupt political system.

Your Trumpists, Bob. Not BLM, not ANTIFA, but Trumptards pretending to be BLM shooting police, starting fires, setting off bombs, looting, fighting, drive by’s, riots….you want these to stop….stop your friends. They’re responsible.

newtboy said:

Bob. Your English skills have tripped you up again. You just admitted to being my “the most gullible guy I know”. It’s true, but I never thought you would admit it.

I like yo[u] Newt.
- Your “the most gullible guy I know”

Your anti Americanism is showing.
A president dumb enough to suggest seriously starting an undeclared war with Mexico and trying to do it matters to actual Americans.
The January 6 coup matters to patriotic and/or honest Americans….and all fans of democracy.
Hundreds of millions in tax fraud matters to honest tax paying Americans.

None of it matters to you. Can you figure out what that means?

Know what actually didn’t matter? Benghazi. Felategate. Obama’s daddy. Pretty much everything the right has focused on for the last 13 years.

D’oh! Bannon in criminal contempt, bipartisan vote. No more hiding for Trump. No executive privilege. No possibility of pardon. Lock him up, lock him up, lock him up, lock him up……

newtboy said:

Jesus Fuck! Last year Trump tried to invade Mexico and start a war on the Southern border by sending 250000 troops to the border with instructions to follow cartel smugglers back into Mexico and murder them there. Thank our lucky stars someone realized how illegal and dangerous his plan was and stopped it, or the Southern states would all be Mexico now and America would be a new world pariah.

Can’t wait for the Jan 6 report. Ex presidents don’t have executive privilege, Trump’s actions will come to light, and that will prove you support an anti American traitor who attempted a coup.

It also came to light the extent of some of his tax frauds. Just one instance, one golf course he owned was valued for taxes at $15 million. He insisted that was an outrageous inflation, it was only worth $1.5 million, and he sued repeatedly to get the taxed value lowered. At the same time, 2015 and after, he listed it as an asset when filling out financial disclosure forms to run for president, there he listed the value as well over $50 million (for credit purposes). That’s both tax and bank fraud, and just one of hundreds of felonious frauds he perpetrated for decades. Daddy Trump will likely die in prison.

newtboy said:

6 mistakes in one sentence....your English is getting worse...hard to believe.