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I dont understand the interviewer or people being wildly upset by this, do they really think the zookeepers, who feed and care for this giraffe are simply sadistic morons who kills a giraffe for fun or just because they can? Obviously there was a reason for this.

I am , however, in principal against zoos. they may be educational on some level, but I have a distaste for the concept of keeping wild animals imprisoned like this. But I do think that most zoos and zookeepers do their best under the circumstances to keep the animals happy as they can be. Most wild animals in the wild of course, live in perpetual fear and/or hunger, and so forth, but I am much more in favour of us spending money on preserving wilderness, and stop the perpetual destruction of their natural habitat, instead of keeping specimens in special "cages"/zoos.

One thing not mentioned here is that the zookeepers were offered $600K to "sell" Marius to an individual. They refused -- giraffes are herd animals and Marius would have had a horrible existence. They could have done a lot of good with that money, but they turned it down as the ultimate ethical decision.

Here's the thing -- zoos are unnatural places and they lead to unnatural results. @A10anis is correct. Against this, one can ask what GOOD do zoos do? Maintain a healthy gene pool to populate the wild. Instill a love of nature in city folks.

And maybe help foster the wildlife conservation scientists and wildlife biologists for the future.

The world isn't perfect. Terrible things happen. The world is a place of scarcity of resources. As thinking, reasoning, feeling beings, we must make choices.

And as I keep thinking -- for those who are appalled at the waste of this young giraffe's happy life, maybe shift your focus to the lions? In this unnatural place of the zoo, those lions got fed their natural diet for a change. Consider being happy for them? In this unnatural world?

I rather admire the ethics of the zookeeper. They could have made big bucks for the zoo, but instead made the ethical choice of feeding the lions. Who eat meat.

The NYT article above walks us through the reasoning for this giraffe being part of the cycle of life -- albeit the unnatural cycle of life of a caged animal. And why "selling" the giraffe into a life of isolation would have been the cruel act.

Reminds me of a situation in San Francisco Bay, years ago. I may get some details wrong. There was an island with non-native deer, I think, with no natural predators. The deer were in danger of starving to death, so those in charge decided to do a controlled hunt.

All hell broke loose and the wildlife managers caved to public pressure. At ENORMOUS cost, the deer were airlifted into the wilds of Montana, or someplace like that.

The wildlife managers were smart though -- they put tags on the deer, or locator devices, or something. More than 50% of the deer were dead within six months -- killed on the roads, mostly. They didn't know how to live in their new environment.

We are getting so divorced from common sense in our modern world.

Nature is red in tooth and claw. Things die. Lions eat meat. And why not be thrilled for the lions, that they get their natural diet for a change?

I still don't understand why if they were getting offers why were they soo intent on killing it? The only possible theory I can come up with is that one of the zookeepers raped the giraffe and gave it aids. So he wanted him killed and disposed of so he wouldn't go somewhere else and have the aids traced back to him. It's just a theory, but so far it's aidstight. Oops Airtight.

Zookeepers don't control feeding time.

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Never asked for that demon_ix, gwiz665's , unilateral involvement in my affairs here was appreciated and I have told him so.....What your goddamn point if not to simply attempt "clever", in an all-familiar Snide, Smugly Douchenstein manner??
And he wonders why he must suffer these monkeys, the zookeeper having left the door open to the Lionhouse.


My point is, that while you may disagree with the poll, you have a vote and so does anyone else on the site. Some people objected to the poll to allow you to come back, and still the end result was the majority vote.

Getting personal and attacking people over a channel doesn't really help anything.

Never asked for that demon_ix, gwiz665's , unilateral involvement in my affairs here was appreciated and I have told him so.....What your goddamn point if not to simply attempt "clever", in an all-familiar Snide, Smugly Douchenstein manner??

And he wonders why he must suffer these monkeys, the zookeeper having left the door open to the Lionhouse.

Chinese zookeeper, lol

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Amazing what you'll do for entertainment when you're trapped for the rest of your life in a 600 sq ft cage. Can't upvote in good conscience considering the "habitat". Sorry.


Save the sappy sentimental environmentalism for pet stores and puppy mills. Gorillas in captivity are given more range than they need in the wild. Do some research and you'll find that once a male gorilla locates a group of females (who only migrate in rare cases), that's that, they're all pretty well settled. You see the little doors in the background? Those are to let him out into his range. Btw, zookeepers NEED to give gorillas this range, or else they would die. Also, this is a silverback who never would have developed into such without the requisite female harem and range I have described above.

Honestly, moral outrage should come from a place of higher knowledge, not ignorance.

Rough translation:

"Inside the cage is 23 year-old King, a lowland gorilla. He's not wearing any skates. However, when the zookeeper wets down the floor, something amazing happens. The gorilla begins to spin on the slippery wet floor! King is very happy for the water and skates when it comes. No one has taught him this behavior. No matter how many times he spins, he never seems to get tired of it. And he has such splendid form. Eventually when he spins too much he gets dizzy and falls over!"

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