...and since am already here...

we don't know the details, yet. but seeing how this comes along with the Pelosi attack, it does make one wonder. what if? that, this and after Jan 6 - it'd make anyone gun-shy (wingnut-wise)

also, would contend that it makes little sense to start the comment w/logic and reason (am w/ya on 'let's wait') but then follow with phAWK noo-ze 🦜 nonsense...

...but the audaciously of complaining about anyone hiding in a basement...Cruz and the not-so-great Pumpkin...is too Goebbelesque to be believed.

getit 'tho. just following what they tell you. 🦊or want to believe.


Tangentially, makes a person wonder 'bout Lake's stability. as a newscaster, one would think she'd be interested in some level of journalistic integrity. if she is unable to discern fact from folly - she wasn't trustworthy at her former job. so why trust her a governorship?!! she's more of an actor than a producer.

Typical ring-wingnut to be too lazy to google before mouthing off...

You forget that Bob's one of the Foxnews wingnuts. He wouldn't know real news if it fucking bit him. When all you watch is fictional propaganda, then of course comedy and satire seem like just another flavor. All that matters in his view is the end slant...if it's "for" the GOP, then it's good, otherwise it's a lie.

I like how he mentioned the inability of the CDC, due to regulations, to gather a comprehensive database on gun violence. As that seems to be an oft to ignored law. Undo that law, let the CDC gather all the various data points into one set, and then let that set be used for analysis. A gun used to commit a robbery, rape or other violent crime? That needs to be reported to the CDC database, along with any details known such as gun source, legality etc. A gunshot victim gets treated at a hospital or clinic, that gets reported to the CDC database along with cause, which in most cases is accidental. Suicide by gun, homicide by gun, mass shooting, all get put into that database. That data then can be used by all sides to support their cause, perhaps it will show that many of the proposed regulations would have little effect. I suspect, however, the fact that the gun lobby fights so hard to prevent the CDC from gathering the data for others to use, means they fear it will be far less favorable to their side.

I personally would be happy enough for now though for this step to be taken. So that we aren't making choices based on incomplete data and conjuncture.

I personally support the right to own a gun for hunting and self-defense. I'm not sure how an AR-15 or something like that would be useful in either case, short of an unrealistic scenario of a zombie apocalypse... and before the right-wingnuts suggest self-defense of in case of a military invasion, or from some odd right-wing fantasy of our own military, let me remind you of how well even better weapons and training worked out for the Branch Davidians. Admittedly, a military invasion scenario of either type is more likely than a zombie or otherwise apocalypse, but exceedingly low... Now if Trump gets us into WW3, and we lose power for years, and it becomes survival of the fittest, then there may be an argument, the solution to that, of course, is don't get the world into that situation with idiots like him at the wheel.

Boo! That had nothing to do with Ayn Rand or Objectivism. This was anti-pacifier, whereas John Galt & Co had their cigarettes stamped with the sign of the dollar.

But, Horray for the Great Escape homage. It just had no teeth for a smackdown against the GOP/Right Wingnuts. I expected more...

Wingnuts gonna be nuts.

But that would require him to take personal responsibility for his own actions...you know, what wingnuts "claim" to be all about.

He's just your run-of-the-mill hypocritical troll. Neither of these two add anything of value to the sift, as far as I can see.

Hardly Bob. It would be more appropriately referred to as a shining example of for-profit education, courtesy of the privatize-everything wingnuts.

Why is it that this guy gets hung by his toes. But when Alec Baldwin calls someone a "fucking cocksucking faggot" and a long list of other unrelated homophobic slurs, no one bats an eye.

All reality TV shows have been doctored to make for more interesting TV since its inception with The Real World, the so-called point of this whole video is mute. Anyone with half a brain cell knows this video isn't about Duck Dynasty being fake, or about the discrimination of opressed people.

Alec Baldwin is making millions doing far worse on a monthly basis. Remember when he called his 12 year old daughter and verbal and mentally abused her? Or when he called a reporter a fat queen. Or another incident where he threathens to shove his foot up someone's faggot ass. No one tries to ruin his career over any of the horrible disgusting things Alec has said or done, but this bearded redneck happens to quote bible scriptures. That's what all this fabricated hate is really all about.

Most of the 'outraged' people don't give a shit about gay people, they just want to see the religious wingnuts get taken down a peg so they can wave their fedora emblazoned atheism flag. They won't come right out and say it because it would make them selfish assholes riding the coat-tails of people who are actually being abused and discriminated against. No I'm not religious, but I can smell bullshit a mile away, and this whole thing reeks. Were's this assholes outrage when it comes to Alec? Ohh He dosen't really give a shit about gay rights, not a peep when he can't pin a christian to the wall; he just cares about religious people doing stupid things.

Don't subjegate the real issue with your atheism agenda, it makes you look disgusting and reprehensible. That attitude is exactly why no one takes our ideology seriously; You think your doing some greater good, but your means are selfish to the very core.

Despite the apparent floundering of the GOP, the "conservatives" have won.

They have successfully baited the so-called left in this country into moving to the right while the traditional right wing party has moved into the wingnut zone.

If you have a left/right scale of 1-10, 30 years ago we had a party at 6 and a party at 8. Today we have a party at 8 and a party at 12.

What I wouldn't give for real conservative and progressive options.

Moving this video to wingnut's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

no no the US just gets corporate take over of journalists, and then intimidate anyone who doesn't tow the line, and anyone who dares to be show what the government is actually responsible for gets thrown into prison, or has their car conveniently wrap around a telephone pole... unless of course, it's the government themselves doing the "whistleblowing", then its fine, and not a hostile act against a nation that values openness and transparency... so much so that more documents have been declared SECRET since Obama came into power than ever before in US history...

let alone straight face lying about spying on their own citizens

let alone a President who decides he doesn't require congress's approval for declaring war/military action, and then decides to show what a humble president that he is, he'll let congress in on what he knows... unlike the NSA programs that most of Congress wouldn't have known about unless for guys like Snowden

and social issues, important as they are, are smokes screens to deflect people's attention from what the two party system's true goal is... serving big business needs and securing personal future wealth/comfort as payment... they really don't care about those issues as anything more as misdirection, unless they are wingnuts like alot of the tea party movement were (they were the reverse, social issues jaded with personal prejudices with no economic sense/ability)... they use social issues to turn people against each other so that they don't see that Democrat and Republican within the last 30yrs have really only accomplished the exact same goals... deregulation of banks/big business, reduction in personal liberties, establishment of a police/surveillance state, the destruction of the middle class, and the fortifying of corporations

200 years?! But I want it NOWWWW!

That makes sense, sort of...except for the fact that there could still be an influx of guns from outside of the US (mainly from Mexico). Unfortunately as the US is continually learning with the drug war, prohibition doesn't work. As long as these things that people want exist, and the technology is there to make it, it will be made, and traded for. Because, like you said, guns are a part of our culture (or the wingnuts culture).

If you want my honest opinion about guns; I don't give a shit if somebody wants to own guns or if they don't. At least nobody's throwing acid in people's faces *ahem*

@rottenseed I agree that it won't be an over-night operation. The wingnuts would absolutely freak out if the evil gubment actually did "COME FOR OUR GUNS". We'd have a civil war.

The long view is to start reducing the number of guns produced. Start making it more difficult to get them. Start buying guns back from the citizenry at market prices (and then destroy them.)

This might be a 200 year plan...