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victor needs to learn how to type.

heheheh yeah, I got that part. (The previous was mostly a self-deprecating remark.)
In reply to this comment by toferyu:
If I may : the dude was playing Master of Puppets ... :-D
>> ^jonny:

Soooo many good bassists. Shameful of me to drop a few names like that and exclude others. Of course, it is my heaven, so I get to pick.
In reply to this comment by toferyu:
Cliff might drop by if he feels like it...
>> ^jonny:
When I get to heaven, Les Claypool will be jamming with Victor Wooten and Phil Lesh. Jaco Pastorius might be allowed to sit in on occasion.

If I may : the dude was playing Master of Puppets ... :-D
>> ^jonny:

Soooo many good bassists. Shameful of me to drop a few names like that and exclude others. Of course, it is my heaven, so I get to pick.
In reply to this comment by toferyu:
Cliff might drop by if he feels like it...
>> ^jonny:
When I get to heaven, Les Claypool will be jamming with Victor Wooten and Phil Lesh. Jaco Pastorius might be allowed to sit in on occasion.

Soooo many good bassists. Shameful of me to drop a few names like that and exclude others. Of course, it is my heaven, so I get to pick.
In reply to this comment by toferyu:
Cliff might drop by if he feels like it...
>> ^jonny:

When I get to heaven, Les Claypool will be jamming with Victor Wooten and Phil Lesh. Jaco Pastorius might be allowed to sit in on occasion.

Cliff might drop by if he feels like it...
>> ^jonny:

When I get to heaven, Les Claypool will be jamming with Victor Wooten and Phil Lesh. Jaco Pastorius might be allowed to sit in on occasion.

I think what's he's implying is that our economy was structured by and for the Cold War such that, when the Soviet Union collapsed, so too did our economy.>> ^Yogi:

Now I'm anti American Empire as much as any hippy, but this guy suggested we're the "so-called victors" of the Cold War. Yeah sorry but we won that shit...you can argue a lot of things about the Soviets being much MUCH weaker than we were anyways but we still won.
Now as an Empire I think it's almost inevitable to go down the Soviet path. I mean baring a mass exodus of the major cities (Mayan Empire) mostly Empires go down the path of ridiculous patriotism and corruption while they die horribly.
This is why I wanted to elect someone like Newt Gingric or Donald Trump...to hasten the process so we can start the rebuilding sooner rather than prolong our death throws for decades.

Now I'm anti American Empire as much as any hippy, but this guy suggested we're the "so-called victors" of the Cold War. Yeah sorry but we won that shit...you can argue a lot of things about the Soviets being much MUCH weaker than we were anyways but we still won.

Now as an Empire I think it's almost inevitable to go down the Soviet path. I mean baring a mass exodus of the major cities (Mayan Empire) mostly Empires go down the path of ridiculous patriotism and corruption while they die horribly.

This is why I wanted to elect someone like Newt Gingric or Donald Trump...to hasten the process so we can start the rebuilding sooner rather than prolong our death throws for decades.

"Humor is something that thrives between man's aspirations and his limitations. There is more logic in humor than in anything else. Because, you see, humor is truth.” - Victor Borge

Looking at the thumbnail, I thought the dude was Victor Wooten.

The regions of which you speak belong to another era...
They've never really been conquered or been part of established empire. People are still organized along tribal lines, with the tribes engaged in continuous inter-tribe warfare...
I know it sounds racist but those boys are like klingons, the Pakistani government has never really dared to take them on.

Thank you, that was largely how I understood things to be within the tribal regions as well.

I have troubles with calling the tribal regions not really part of Pakistan when it's pointed out how bad some of the boys there are, but later when an American drone kills some of those bad boys in that region it is a gross affront to Pakistan's national sovereignty. It's either part of Pakistan or it's not, and if it is part of Pakistan and America is supposed to mind it's business what is America expected to do when the bad boys from that tribal region keep killing Americans and more importantly and in even greater numbers the moderate Pakistani's who are the closest America has to true allies in the region.


Despite all of that they've never really bothered us until the "war on terror". They've always bbeen kind of our crazy cousins. We don't wanna be around them but they're family.

I'd argue that they never really bothered anyone because they'd largely been getting what they wanted. That's not the kind of problem that gets better just because you keep giving the extremists what they want. It leads to a situation where a guy like Osama can find enough friends to hide within a mile of the very Military Academy that Musharraf graduated from. I firmly do not accept that the 'war on terror' created the problem, it just forced it to be recognized and dealt with.

Americans will leave, leaving Pakistan with a mess. They did it before and we've been screwed since. There's a huuuuge (as in a small city big) Afghan refugee camp near where I live that's some thirty years old, from the last time American boys were in the region playing their geopolitical monopoly game. It's horrible.

Agreed on both counts. As far as America is concerned it's more cost effective to just reset the clock in Afghanistan every so often so the problems there are kept localized and not something that will bother them for another decade. It's a twisted game and I desperately want to see real solutions embraced that will see the moderate locals have a real chance at being the victors in the end instead of the perpetual victims.

Saudi's are equally nuts and there's not a single American president who doesn't go pay a visit right away upon taking office. Best friends.

I'd say the Saudi's are even worse. They've spent billions of dollars in Pakistan's tribal regions setting up jihadi training camps and calling them 'schools'. Regrettably the male only students come out illiterate but well trained in extremist Wahhabi doctrines and guerrilla warfare. The Saudi 'charities' have spent more money on 'education' in these tribal areas than Pakistan's own government and have been doing since long, long before the 'war on terror' ever was recognized by the West or Pakistan. That building block of an internal war against Pakistan itself has been building for a long time and without the hard push Bush made I firmly believe that would still be official Pakistani policy. The situation would be worse and when ever the militants decided to start pushing it would have been far more unpleasant than what Pakistan has faced so far from those elements.

I guess my point being, we're actually not a bad bunch. Just in a shitty situation. Come sometime and I can show you around. Most of the country is safe. Safer than mexico anyways.

I would honestly love to take you up on that. My kids are a bit young but I do hope to make it over there someday. I too believe you guys are a great bunch in a bad situation, the road out of it though is just so long, difficult and nasty. I wish all of you there the best of luck and honestly spend a lot of time trying to understand what is happening there and what small part little old me can play.

>> ^ghark:

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
...or jawing snachtes from the victory of defeat. >> ^brycewi19:
>> ^Trancecoach:
or defeating snatches from the victory of jaws.
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.


Or... jawing defeat from the snatchy victors.
This is fun!


Defeating jaws in the snatch of victory
Vic DeTory feat. Jawa Snatch: "Thing From..."


*pretentious electrobeat*

*fears to click the link*
*does not click the link no sir*
>> ^Quboid:

Defeating Victor in the snatch's jaws?

Defeating Victor in the snatch's jaws?

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

...or jawing snachtes from the victory of defeat. >> ^brycewi19:
>> ^Trancecoach:
or defeating snatches from the victory of jaws.
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.


Or... jawing defeat from the snatchy victors.
This is fun!



Defeating jaws in the snatch of victory