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I LOVE me some Tracy Morgan!

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This kind of thoughtful reply is all too rare on the Internet - and I'm proud that it's here on VideoSift.>> ^FlowersInHisHair:

@TheFreak @Yogi
Er, yeah, wow, I've been a bit of an idiot. It's surprising to find oneself called a reactionary, but that is indeed what my comment was, and you two are right to call me on it. But my initial reaction was just that - another homophobe, another joke about gay kids being murdered for their sexual identity, fuck that guy. But my initial reaction isn't the end of my thinking on the subject, so forgive me my knee-jerk reaction and allow me if you will to claw back a little bit of my reasonableness.
I agree with Louis that the gay community has missed the opportunity to ask Tracy Morgan why he feels the way he feels about gay men - such dialogue would be helpful in highlighting some of the attitudes people have to effeminately-voiced gay men. Since my speaking voice is not effeminate, many people don't guess that I'm gay on first meeting me, and in the period before they do realise (which is usually when I get drunk on pink cocktails and start talking about Sondheim), I've put up with a lot of blokey jokes about gays, and have witnessed the shift in men's attitudes when they realise that a gay man is in their midst. The gay jokes dry up immediately, which is kind of a shame because I enjoy offensive jokes of all kinds, and can usually counter jokes about "queers" with equal numbers of jokes about "breeders". I've noticed first-hand the difference in the way that people regard non-obvious gay men like me, and the way they treat the more effeminate and flamboyant members of (er) "my tribe". I've been explicitly told that I'm not included when they criticise gays, because I'm "straight enough". Sigh!
What I've realised is that, in a way, I'm more supportive of Tracy Morgan's joke than I am of Louis's rationalisation of it. Tracy Morgan can make such a joke if he chooses, and I can think him a sad man with backwards views on masculinity if I choose. Where I disagree with Louis is that he sees Tracy Morgan's joke as a kind of "progress" towards acceptance, but I don't see how making jokes about killing his gay son doesn't sound like he's "trying to figure out" gay male masculinity or that he's somehow less homophobic for qualifying precisely what it is that makes him want to stab some gays as opposed to stabbing all of them.

@TheFreak @Yogi

Er, yeah, wow, I've been a bit of an idiot. It's surprising to find oneself called a reactionary, but that is indeed what my comment was, and you two are right to call me on it. But my initial reaction was just that - another homophobe, another joke about gay kids being murdered for their sexual identity, fuck that guy. But my initial reaction isn't the end of my thinking on the subject, so forgive me my knee-jerk reaction and allow me if you will to claw back a little bit of my reasonableness.

I agree with Louis that the gay community has missed the opportunity to ask Tracy Morgan why he feels the way he feels about gay men - such dialogue would be helpful in highlighting some of the attitudes people have to effeminately-voiced gay men. Since my speaking voice is not effeminate, many people don't guess that I'm gay on first meeting me, and in the period before they do realise (which is usually when I get drunk on pink cocktails and start talking about Sondheim), I've put up with a lot of blokey jokes about gays, and have witnessed the shift in men's attitudes when they realise that a gay man is in their midst. The gay jokes dry up immediately, which is kind of a shame because I enjoy offensive jokes of all kinds, and can usually counter jokes about "queers" with equal numbers of jokes about "breeders". I've noticed first-hand the difference in the way that people regard non-obvious gay men like me, and the way they treat the more effeminate and flamboyant members of (er) "my tribe". I've been explicitly told that I'm not included when they criticise gays, because I'm "straight enough". Sigh!

What I've realised is that, in a way, I'm more supportive of Tracy Morgan's joke than I am of Louis's rationalisation of it. Tracy Morgan can make such a joke if he chooses, and I can think him a sad man with backwards views on masculinity if I choose. Where I disagree with Louis is that he sees Tracy Morgan's joke as a kind of "progress" towards acceptance, but I don't see how making jokes about killing his gay son doesn't sound like he's "trying to figure out" gay male masculinity or that he's somehow less homophobic for qualifying precisely what it is that makes him want to stab some gays as opposed to stabbing all of them.

>> ^artician:


Some people have to be more of an adult than all of us put together before they can have the luxury of becoming children.


Well said.

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Not the first time he's done a Tracy Morgan impression: http://videosift.com/video/Alec-Baldwin-on-Tracy-Morgan-and-Kim-Jong-il

>> ^artician:

"He's a man-child"
I heard an interview with Tracy Morgan on NPR where he described the time he came home and found his bed-ridden father on the ground floor of their apartment building, in winter, with bare feet, and Tracy Morgan had to carry him like a child up 6 flights of stairs to their apartment, because his father was senile and too confused to know what was going on.
After telling that story on air, he broke down in tears because it was too much for him to talk about.
Some people have to be more of an adult than all of us put together before they can have the luxury of becoming children.


Quite true of all comedians in general. They tend to have a great insight into humanity, politicians, social issues, and even the biggest of questions such as religion, love, and almost all philosophical domains.

It stems in almost every case from the hardships they have had pressed upon them and their underlying conditions that allow an understanding that binds the perceptions of reality upon their mind an already learned, or easily empathized, lesson that can easily be learned and overcome. As to why they become masters of laughter due to their doomed pasts, I'm not entirely sure. (I know they would be able to empathize a great deal better than others; perhaps due to their depressive states their minds have given them easily attained "happy comebacks" to depressive thoughts in their own minds--partial guess only though...)

Comedians tend to offer a quick way to look at an issue with contrast, so much so that it may make you uncomfortable. But, the key thing a comedian does is that they give you a phrase (the punchline) that allows your mind to mentally take control of the topic of discussion allowing you to beat it, easily.

From there, psychologically it's still a little shady, but it seems to stay in line with what I said. Of course there are other ways to make us laugh, but it typically tends to lend credence to the fact that you have mastered or conquered something, mentally, which has a profound affect over us. Fear is also another area where this crops up and maybe for the same reason.

Great comedians one and all seem to all have a dark past or hardships; but their ability to empathize seems to be a strong core attribute. If anyone knows of a good book on the topic: comedians and their past versus the psychological reasoning as to why they are so good at what they do; please, leave a comment with a link to the book or the name of it.

"He's a man-child"

I heard an interview with Tracy Morgan on NPR where he described the time he came home and found his bed-ridden father on the ground floor of their apartment building, in winter, with bare feet, and Tracy Morgan had to carry him like a child up 6 flights of stairs to their apartment, because his father was senile and too confused to know what was going on.

After telling that story on air, he broke down in tears because it was too much for him to talk about.

Some people have to be more of an adult than all of us put together before they can have the luxury of becoming children.

dude that is sport

>> ^spoco2:

Um, ignoring Tracy's comments, why the f ck are sports commentators talking about which women would be better to have sex with anyway? Aren't they supposed to be talking about... oh, I dunno... SPORT!?

Can Anyone name all the cameo appearances?

1. Aziz Ansari - Parks and Recreation
2. Tracy Morgan - 30 Rock
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6. Nathan Fillion
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8. Amy Poehler - Parks and Recreation
9. Kim Kardashian
10. Jim Parsons - Big Bang Theory
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12. Ashton Kutcher - Two and a Half Men

http://www.tressugar.com/Tina-Fey-Imitates-Tracy-Morgan-David-Letterman-7898022

I would guess that Kim Jong-il does not like Team America.

And possibly Matt Damon.

>> ^swedishfriend:

Who doesn't like team america? That was a great film.

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