Cigarettes have something like 300 chemicals in them that's where the cancer causing agents come from not the tar, marijuana has like 3 THC, Chlorophyll(planet matter), and actually that's all I can think of so I guess it's just 2. Anyway I'd choose marijuana any day over something that has cyanide in it to give it flavor wouldn't you?

Cannabis has more tar than tobacco--but the cancer is caused by radioactive elements which tobacco concentrates in it's leaves--cannabis does not.

Bullshit is the correct call.

No, I think it's right. It basically comes from the tar. The problem is they are saying that "by weight, there is this much more tar." That's a bullshit argument though because a pack of smokes by weight per day would be a hell of a chronic habit. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's pretty rare. Also, the argument goes out the window when you consider the options for alternative intake (vaporizers, edibles, etc). It don't matter though. They're losing.

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I have seen worse. Usually they come from houses that have 5+ pets, and the PC is sitting directly on the flooor (usually a thick carpet), and the computer hasn't been opened or cleaned once in it's 8+ years that it existed.


Yup, me too. Exactly what you described, but they were also a regular pipe smoker. The components were coated with a layer of sticky yellow tar which the dust and cat hairs also got impregnated with. Made air-duster cans almost useless.

I had to use tweezers to get the bulk of the cat hair out the way, then remove the hard-drive and plug it into another PC via an external cable to recover the data.

Arguably, we've already passed peak oil.

Hence, the sudden increase in offshore oil expeditions and tar sands operations.

Not to mention, Mexico - the U.S.'s third largest supplier - began running out of oil last year, 2011.

It's all downhill from here.

I'd just like to say that even if the ropes had no purpose your comment was still retarded. I mean really, your tar brush is close to a billion people wide.

I live in Alberta. Thankfully, 800 kms south of this stuff. There is a huge drug problem in Ft. Mac as well.

Here is an interesting documentary that was produced by my friend's brother. It is called "Downstream" and speaks about the Aboriginal community of Fort Chipewyan that lives near the Athabasca River that flows through the Tar Sands. The entire thing is on Youtube if this site is region blocked or whatever.

http://intercontinentalcry.org/tar-sands-documentary-downstream/

We enjoy an advantage in Alberta for having such vast proven reserves. Some new technology that refines the sands "in situ" using steam-assisted gravity drainage with special catalysts looks promising, like at the Suncor Firebag site. I used to work for Suncor, and am happy to not anymore.

WhyatI never understand is why we have high gas prices here just like everyone else. You'd think since we make the stuff, we would give ourselves a little break at the pumps.

The giant trucks and huge scoops up there is quite interesting. Brobdingnagian.

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First off, Romney does not equal Obama. This kind of thinking is truly what frightens me, and it's not because of the reasons you probably think.

Some 20 years ago, the overwhelming majority of the population were ignorant of politics and apathetic. Political games were played, cheap shots were utilized, but in the end, in the big scheme of things, on the truly big issues, both sides would compromise and do the right thing. Clinton and the GOP Congress balancing the budget, Bush Sr. raising taxes, etc. etc. Stuff got done. And the majority of people were wholly ignorant on things like federal budgets, that kind of thing. There was also some kind of understanding on basic principles where regardless of your ideology, you couldn't do catastrophic things just because it suited your ideology.

Now, that's gone. Extremists in both parties are labelled fascists or communists, or whatever, but now moderates are being labelled as either part of the same extremist groups, or they're called sell-outs, part of a completely corrupt system, and perpetrators of that system, not as agents trying to work within a system that was built long before they got there, who could change the system while they work within it. When they do the right thing that violates ideology, it's not because it was the bipartisan right thing to do; it's because they're extensions of the corrupt system. The bailouts are an absolutely perfect example. I hate to break it to people here, and I know most won't agree with me, but the bailouts were the right thing to do, even if you're against too big to fail, etc. The banking system was already in place when the economy collapsed. It's like being in a boat as its sinking. You can critique the design of the boat all you want, but the boat sinking kills you all. It's ridiculous to talk about actions that will blow up the boat. Plug the holes, do what you need to do to get the boat to land. THEN figure out how to fix the design, or build a new boat. But what happened? The bipartisan policy by both a Democrat and Republican president was tarred and feathered as government being in the pocket of big business. Those same people don't seem to realize the boat didn't sink. We didn't face another depression. Be critical the banking system wasn't significantly reformed after that was done, I have no issues with that.

To the person who said Obama's policies haven't worked in three years? Again, are we in a depression? No. Those policies worked. And how can you expect a macro-economic shift within a year or two of his other policies? Go back and look at economic history. Things don't change on a dime just from macro-economic policies instituted by the government. It takes several years before the effect can be measured. Again, sheer ignorance. The difference today is the ignorant are far more willing to participate in the political debate even though they don't have a clue what they're talking about. This is a problem on both sides.

Both sides are stoking the ignorant to get involved in the public debates, and not encouraging a very very basic understanding of crucial facts about history. Like... WWII was a Keynesian economic exercise effectively, which in the end was a gigantic gov't deficit that did end the Great Depression. This is a very straight forward basic economical historical fact. But there's 30% of the population that will not believe it because it blows apart what they politically favor today. It's ridiculous.

I disagree with Romney, and I probably won't vote for him. But he's not a fascist. There's a significant difference between him and Santorum. And there's a significant difference between him and Obama. Is there a choice as clearly different as say Ron Paul vs. Ralph Nader? No. Is that a bad thing? Not in my book.

My fear is in our political ecosystem, the moderates, the good ones who truly aren't compromising for the wrong reasons, but do it to get things done, and have a willingness to ignore ideology for practical solutions that help the country are getting drowned out, and characterized as corrupt when they're not. I disagree with Romney, but he's not corrupt. I disagree with Obama, but he's not corrupt. We don't need a revolution to fix our current political system, but an increasing number of people think we do. And the last decade we're seeing a rise in the extremists on both sides enough to drown out the political moderates we desperately need. This just can't continue indefinitely.

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>> ^lantern53:
Obama's policies have not worked for the past 3 years. If you believe some improvement is coming, you have far more faith than the average Catholic bishop.

obama = romney = anyone else they put forward

Thanks for posting quality stuff!
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Thanks for the promote!
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*promote.

Good question can we get an answwer from @dag on that?
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The longer version is much more exciting. Is it considered bad Sifting form to replace an embed with a significantly extended one?>> ^notarobot:
I watched the whole match. It was nice to see Trudeau sporting a Katimavik logo (strength +1) on his right shoulder. Even more fun was hearing disappointment build up in the voice of commentator Ezra Levant's voice as the Trudeau turns the match around from Brazeau's strong opening.
Full fight here: http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012
/03/20120331-233549.html

The longer version is much more exciting. Is it considered bad Sifting form to replace an embed with a significantly extended one?>> ^notarobot:

I watched the whole match. It was nice to see Trudeau sporting a Katimavik logo (strength +1) on his right shoulder. Even more fun was hearing disappointment build up in the voice of commentator Ezra Levant's voice as the Trudeau turns the match around from Brazeau's strong opening.
Full fight here: http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012/03/20120331-233549.html

Thanks for the promote!
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*promote.

>> ^fissionchips:

Haha, great stuff, especially the surprise ending!


Yeah... apparently Chinese oil companies and investors own the majority of the tar sands projects. So when the U.S. buys oil from Canada, they're actually buying it from China.

If I had to drive over that enough, I think I'd just put some filler between the bumps, so I could go over slow to stay on the filler strip I put in and not knock my teeth out trying to go over the bumps.

If they are cheap speed bumps done after the road was put in, you can remove them with a square shaped shovel with a good edge on the front and a little prying. If they are more expensive/substantial they are either put in when the road was and very hard to separate or tarred down.

They started putting these plastic little hard speed bumps in grocery stores people would drive through as short cuts. They are just hard pieces of plastic with 2-3 pins they hammer into the asphalt....the pins stay and the rest of the block would usually break apart in just a few months. They are terrible to drive over and tend to get caught up in the underside of cars when they were starting to fall apart....... they stopped using those completely in just a year.


And that's a really bad place for speed bumps, if it was on a wider section of road you could angle your vehicle a little so you're not hitting with two wheels at the same time and jarring the hell out of yourself. It forces you to slow down so you're not swerving all over trying to get angled up to it, but doesn't wear out your car as bad or jolt you. Im sure emergency vehicles go in the out lane when they need to go into that neighborhood.