That would have been much more convincing if you expressed a single, unique thought.

lol "UnPC", "Bernie sold out", "lying media"? Every sentence you wrote is an overused talking point that you're parroting back as your own thoughts. You are literally, the very definition of a tool. Add to that a willful ignorance of how the real world works...you're the biggest problem in our political system.

Of course no one can educate you or make you understand anything beyond your version of "reality", so we'll have to work to strengthen the resolve of people who aren't so weak minded that they fall for obvious demagoguery.

Wow Bob, I know I just defended your right to your opinion, and that people shouldn't attack you for it, but this is a lie. A complete fabrication. You should feel deeply ashamed of this bullshit. Even more so if you're just parroting some Republican talking point crap.

haha..whats up drunky!
you nailed exactly why i post some of the more controversial videos in my que.

i have found that those of identify strongly with one politcial and/or cultural philosophy tend to stick in the same groups,the same spaces and receive their information from the same sources.

this applies to both the right AND the left.
we can use bobknight as an example when he regurgitates almost verbatim the current republican talking points.

but bob is an easy target.

the only thing i have truly been invested in of late is the greg elliot case.who was recently found not guilty and people have been saying its a victory for free speech.

but is it?
the man lost his job and is 100k in the hole for legal fees.

so while people can say this is a victory for free speech.i am less optimistic.some people could look at greg elliots case and decide to shut up if confronted.not make any waves and submit to the threat of legal prosecution.

of course there was a sifter who felt that because the video was from a right wing show,the content was worthless.which is a binary way of thinking that is very limiting,because it judges the speaker before the content and the discussion is ended before it has begun.

so my posting the rape game video was to bring awareness,not make a social commentary,and is also why i provided links to both a left and right take on the situation.

i would rather post a documentary or lecture on the subject,but most people nowadays want their information spoon fed to them in tiny,easy to consume,media bites no more than 5 minutes.

which is damn near impossible.
human interactions,cultures,religions and societies are complex and nuanced.it takes time to unpack all that information and digest the context.

ah well..what can you do...

anyways,
thanks for your comment and stay awesome brother!

So...the feds holding property they've held at least since 1907 as a wildlife refuge, or surroundings they've purchased since then, and leasing it to people like these at ridiculously low prices is 'creeping into our lives' and 'overgrowth of government'?
Um...yeah...how does that work?
These people committed arson on federal land DURING A WILDFIRE and were found guilty, and are sentenced under federal MINIMUM guidelines, not given the max, and these Bundy people are finding that an overreach of government...how?
The cognitive dissonance in their last statement would be hilarious if it wasn't an actual mindset so many people AGREE with when talking about white groups, but scoff at as self serving drivel when applied to black groups.
THESE people think the law is rigged against them? What should the Black Lives Matter people think when it's PROVEN the law is rigged against them, and it's their LIFE at stake, not their right to do whatever they want on other people's property, including arson, without consequence.
And can you imagine the terrified outrage on Fox if a group of armed BLM (Black Lives Matter) people took over a BLM (Bureau of Land Management) office, like these nutjobs did? Now consider the ridicule if they did it to 'protest' the mandatory sentencing of a convicted arsonist....who's black.

Oh...interesting to find out this as well....
-Many of the tactics and talking points being used were popularized in the 1970s by the white supremacist group Posse Comitatus. This group promoted the “Christian Patriot” movement, advocated the formation of “Citizens Militias,” helped forge an idiosyncratic reading of the Constitution, said the county sheriff was the highest elected official that should be obeyed, and opposed federal environmental restrictions.

Sweet Zombie Jesus!

First i think your regurgitating your talking points incorrectly. Bad little stoolie!... Its that they won't, WILL NOT, call them Islamic Extremists. I know its an itty bitty difference but trust me at your next clan rally you'll get a really hard time if you say it the way you did.

Second if the big tough GOP is so afraid of the press and orphans they really shouldn't even bother running for president. It just seems like they are going to be faced with a LOT scarier things than that should the cowards in this country actually elect them.

On the other hand... its probably what jesus would do right?

Actually, there are quite a few politicians who know things beyond talking points. The key is that their knowledge is about the things that they personally care about. Warren and finance, Franken and net neutrality, etc.

What makes it look so bad, at the national level especially, is that they are expected to have views on everything. And let's be honest, nobody is knowledgeable on every subject, but any national politician cannot actually admit that he doesn't know something. So they make something up, or try to slide by on vague generalities. And sure, some of them are being vague in order to avoid putting their actual unpopular stance on record, or just because they're idiots. But don't let the rightwing memes get to you...not all politicians are stupid or corrupt. Many or most of them at the national level, but not all.

Ugh, listening to politicians regarding issues like this seems like such a waste of time. I'd prefer if i could hear the pros and cons by someone less biased. I trust nothing these two say. As if politicians know anything beyond talking points. I hate having to try and dissect and pick out good information from bullshit.

grumble grumble

Being accurate just does NOT matter to them.
"You don't like those numbers? Well here's more bullshit"
...and if you LET them just move on to the next talking point you are complicit. Good on this interviewer for holding her feet to the fire a little... but could have used more...

At first I was thinking: "he actually brings up an interesting point, if only he'd tune down the condescending douche vibe".

But really, that tie in to Muslim countries and the "increased" frustration their young adult population is "subjected" to is downright retarded.

It's kinda amazing to me how someone like Bill Maher, who paints himself as a sort of enlightened "sane" voice of logic, is so preoccupied with taking jabs at Islam that even when he stumbles into an interesting talking point he can't help himself but spin it into exactly the kind of hateful, ignorant and demonizing nonsense he makes a living out of criticizing.

Funny how I just watched the latest John Oliver where he mentioned the Canadian elections and criticizes a decision that banned women from wearing niqabs
Take a page from John's book Bill, he's what sanity looks like.

70 years old for retirement!?! You can suck it, buddy! I bet he hasn't ever actually worked hard in his life, certainly not since he had to clear brush at Niggerhead Ranch as a teen (his family ranch, in case you've forgotten).
Interesting he's proposing a retroactive tax on the elderly with his plan by not paying out on the benefits they already paid for. I would think that wouldn't go over well with his constituents...but they mostly can't follow logic, only talking points, so they mostly won't even notice I bet.

Greece accumulated debt in a foreign currency (Euro). Had they been using a free-floating currency with Greece as the sovereign issuer, it would have been much less of a problem. But that's a different discussion.

You brought up retirement benefits. These benefits have been a major talking point over here in mercantilistic Germany. Unfortunatly, a lot of inaccuracies crept into the debate over time. A closer look reveals that it's not as black and white as it is made out to be. One point at a time...

The effective retirement age, if we look at OECD stats, is basically the same for men in Greece and Germany. The age of 56 is often thrown around as the expected average retirement age for workers in Greece, but that's only for the totally messed up public sector. The average for the private sector is significantly higher, as the OECD numbers indicate.

Yet the size of retirement benefits is even more controversial. There are, in fact, some very dubious practices going on in Greece, which result in rediculous retirement benefits for a select group of people, even at very young ages. Decades of nepotism, that's what it produces. But even so, pension expenditure as a % of GDP was not significantly higher in Greece before the GFC than in Germany. When Greek GDP collapsed, expenditures as a % increased, naturally. Some have gotten absurd benefits, but the majority got a pittance. And as if that wasn't bad enough, Greece doesn't have a social safety net, unlike Germany. There is no welfare. Many people have to take early retirement at reduced benefits to have any income at all.
So I'll say it's bad in Germany. Last decade's changes to our retirement system have a metric fuckton of people (~40% of workers) heading straight into poverty when they retire. It's social security for them, and nothing else. Still, it's bliss compared to what the plebs in Greece now ended up with.

However, even all those beautiful OECD stats have to be taken with a grain of salt. Germany has a working bureaucracy. Everything is documented. Greece is a mess. Therefore, all comparisons are guesstimates at best.

Finally, as long as the Greek economy produces enough goods and services, it is for them to decide how to distribute their wealth. If they want a lavish retirement system, so be it. Our governments opted to create a true underclass of the working poor, and gutted a retirement system that made it through two world wars unscathed. If German retirees want to bitch about their benefits, it should be aimed squarely at our governments and their intentional deconstruction of our social welfare state.

the idea that the civil war wasnt about slavery is right wing ignorant bullshit,,,your blindly repeating astoundingly ignorant right wing talking points,,your willfull ignorance is the most destructive force in america.

My comment was a response to @scheherazade and the whole "The Civil War wasn't about Slavery" argument.

Which again, is just another white/ruling-class privilege talking point to diffuse the crux of the issue.

Black people still aren't treated with respect. 150 after the "abolition of slavery".

So of course you don't understand, Bobknight.

You refuse to accept anything that doesn't mesh with the "reality" in your head.


Explain to me why an armed gunmen who's just murder 9 people gets captured alive..

But any unarmed black man who looks at an officer funny gets shot to death before they knew what happened.

You most certainly get fussy whenever anyone says a cop is engaging in brutality or misconduct. Don't pretend like you don't, sweetie.

If you like, I can go back thru all your comments and point out many examples.
Let's not forget the thinly veiled racism either.

Or the openly jingoist "Obama is a Foreigner" talking point you and bobknight ramble about at times.



Again, it's the pinnacle of hypocrisy to be offended by that..

While effortlessly labeling any group of black teens confronted by police as lazy, disobedient, thugs who are clearly part of "the criminal element".

Just keep that in mind before commenting.

@JustSaying

I'm gonna be nice cause I don't have any experience with you or your opinions yet. And, to an extent, I agree..

Hopefully you can contribute something meaningful to videosift, considering all the great voices who've disappeared from this place.

It's just extremely frustrating that these two goofballs are haven't left yet.

And in fact, your premise is a topic that I definitely have been meaning to discuss.

There's a Prager "University" video that addresses that exact premise of sugarcoated vs blatant belligerent racist.

The video itself is flagrantly patronizing.

That being said we have all three types of racist on videosift currently:

Bobknight is your classic Neo-Con Racist.
- He hates blacks, gays, jews & liberals and makes no qualms about expressing how subhuman those groups are.

Trancecoach is your more politically-correct racist.
- Seems pretty open-minded and accepting, until you reach the middle or end of his comment.
Then it's all like "isn't it sad that all black people have no fathers and live in the ghetto."

Lantern is a special case.
- He'll be toned-down yet flagrant at times. Openly belligerent at others.
But it's always under the guise of "I can't be racist cause I don't FEEL like i'm racist"

He even used the classic "Well I CAN'T be racist cause my DAUGHTER married a BLACK/BIRACIAL guy! See, not racist"

Then will immediately say some heinously racist shit like he has in this thread. i.e.

"Of course I didn't bother reading the article for context or facts.
I'm a cop, I know how the 'Criminal Element' thinks.
Clearly those kids were dangerous.
If we had just heard the audio, we would have seen how those punks are no better than those looting rioting savages in Baltimore"

So no, JustSaiyan.. I would NOT prefer to have some idiot saying idiot things whenever I come back to check out the site.

At least Bill O'Reilly is smart enough to have a somewhat substantive discussion.

Lantern just says racist shit, then cowers behind the "i'm a good person because my job & family FORCE me into being around lesbians & colored people.. and I put up with that pretty well. so.. yeah.."

But yeah, I just hate people like Lantern cause he's too chicken shit to just say he thinks black people are inferior whenever I press him on it.

At least Bobknight will straight tell you gays are immoral sinful perverts or whatever. The old-fashion, honest, terrifying-murder-clown bigot he is.

Then again, Bobknight can't admit he's racist either.
So.. maybe that's just a core Conservative talking point now.