do you hear him saying "fuck you, retard, and yo momma too?"
no, there's no sound. maybe he said "shit, sorry, sorry, sorry, er, is he ok? hey son, don't hit people". did you see him in court saying "fucking spastic gotta be shown he can't kick my son, beeeehatch"
you have no idea. what you can't see/hear is maybe more important than what you can see.

i see him (in front of my own eyes) using the body language of somebody who just did something instinctively and now kinda regrets it and hopes everything is gonna be ok, knows he did wrong, wants to leave the area so he doesn't get in trouble, but knows he can't just run away, but still feels justified in lashing out to protect his son. that's just a guess though, i wouldn't be as sure as you are about it.

do you see him do anything violent whatsoever after the initial punch?

by the way, i haven't thrown a punch in anger since i was 12 years old, and that was the first one. i am not exactly advocating chaos on the streets. i just think i understand that if someone scary comes near your son and tries to hurt him, you might react differently to how you expect. if you are a policeman you are more expected to keep that in check than if you are a father.




In reply to this comment by SDGundamX:
Do you see him checking to see if the kid is okay after the guy goes down? I sure don't. He's too busy standing over the guy and arguing with the mom.

Amazed at your inability to see things right in front of your eyes.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
amazed at your powers of assumption from a low res silent clip of total strangers with unknown mental problems.

In reply to this comment by SDGundamX:
I believe all people have the responsibility to act calmly under pressure and not resort to immediate violence, regardless of profession. The dad didn't even check to see if the kid was okay--he was much more concerned with teaching the guy a lesson and standing over him even after he was KO'd. For that, he earns nothing but contempt from me.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
>> ^SDGundamX:
I'm willing to bet my life savings that if it were a cop throwing the punch in this vid.....


Oh, you mean a trained professional who knows how to deal with these situations, can act calmy under pressure, is not related to the victim of the attack, and is paid to serve the community...

I see the comparison.

>> ^HadouKen24:

I don't think that's quite what he means. "Faith and trust, at least in an interpersonal context," is insufficient for torture to be ruled out as a possibility. There are individuals in whom we cannot and should not have faith and trust, as Zizek understands (and points out later in the lecture, in the example of Hitler).
That said, I don't think it's all that clear how his criticism of Harris actually does work. He never quite makes explicit the logical connection between the concept of the "Neighbor" and the impermissibility of torture. After this video, he gets lost in a rabbit trail explaining what the Neighbor means and how it relates both to modern politics and the illusion of really connecting with others.
I think he may have intended to point out a problem with reducing ethical behavior to a set of scientific principles, since, after all, we're free individuals (and thus Neighbors), and such calculations are inconsistent with freedom.
Or he maybe he just thought that the torture Harris is talking about is another instance of demonizing the Other. Who knows?
One of my philosophy professors used get lost and fail to complete his arguments like this. He's a brilliant guy, and I almost never missed taking a class with him, but his lectures could drive you nuts sometimes.




You're right (especially about his talking style)

...the "need for promises", and "the Neighbor" have nothing per se to do with torture, it's rather with Harris comments on faith.


From this:
http://www.lacan.com/symptom8_articles/zizek8.html

"Consequently, what Harris aims at with his imagined "truth pill" is nothing less than the abolition of the dimension of the Neighbor: the tortured subject is no longer a Neighbor, but an object whose pain is neutralized, reduced to a property that has to be dealt with in a rational utilitarian calculus (so much pain is tolerable if it prevents a much greater amount of pain) - what disappears here is the abyss of the infinity that pertains to a subject. It is thus significant that the book which argues for torture is also the book entitled The End of Belief - not, however, in the obvious sense of "You see, it is only our belief in God, the divine in junction to love your neighbor, that ultimately prevents us from torturing people!", but in a much more radical sense. Another subject (and, ultimately, subject as such) is for Lacan not something directly given, but a "presupposition," something presumed, an object of belief - how can I ever be sure that what I see in front of me is another subject, not a depthless flat biological machine?

My interpolation -

it all has to do with the fact that you can discus weather a chair in front of you really exists, but in the end everyone can go home and have a cup of tea, without agreeing, thats why epistemology is easy, we can all believe in crazy things like "matter" or "god" without there being a real problem. But when we asks the question - is this in front of me a Man, a Person, you have to say Yes, emphatically. You have to say "I believe".

You're point about Hitler is also right, but lets say you have Hitler in a basement, If you're a normal being you really wouldn't like hearing the screams of a man in pain, seeing pain in another Person, even if he is Hitler, because let's face it, he was a Man.

What Harris is saying is that this can be dealt with (science is not the problem, you could imagine it without a "pill")by removing the spastic screams - even if it is just a theoretical supposition. It's not about the impermissibility of torture, as far as I can see, it's about how we perceive the lump of flesh in front of us. Harris is not only destroying it's "infinite dimension" but also our ability to see it and feel it. You can torture Hitler, but the least you could experience the horror of the process


Any way, thats my thoughts...
Who's up for some enchillada?

heh, weird seeing a cat "jog". Usually with cats you either get "spastic flee" or "catatonic lounge" and not much in-between.

Deal or No Deal is a totally idiotic game that promotes superstitious bullshit.

I get a kick out of moron guests on that show trying to pray or use ESP to figure out which case to pick instead of picking randomly.

The optimal strategy is to just pick a random case to eliminate every time, and only accept an offer if it exceeds the arithmetic mean of the remaining numbers, unless you prefer the certainty of a small reward to a higher expected value of a random variable reward.

If you want to take tax into the equation, only accept an offer if its after-tax value exceeds the arithmetic mean of the after-tax value of each remaining number.

This no educational value and a trivial optimal strategy, which makes it completely worthless except for the comedy of watching the spastic effusive moron guests. At least people might learn something by watching Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy, Millionaire, or Whose Line. But Deal or No Deal is braindead.

I dislike The Price is Right on so many levels. It's inane marketing propaganda masquerading as entertainment. The subject matter of the show is repetitive, useless, boring, and deceptive. It's almost as braindead as Deal Or No Deal. The sole redeeming quality of both shows is the comedy of watching the spastic effusive guests lose their composure.

Do yourself a favor and watch a show with real content instead of this content-free garbage. Perhaps TNG, DS9, TDS/Colbert, Frontline, Nova, Charlie Rose, etc.

Great choice of song, but I still think her "dancing" is only a slightly more coordinated version of the spastic movements I make because I can't dance for shit. It's particularly apparent in the original Daft Punk video she made.

>> ^Crosswords:
I'd be more impressed if the person's spastic movements actually served to avoid the grey blocks rather than running into them more often than not. Still crazy song


I'm no god at Audiosurf but lemme give it a go. This guy ain't too flash.

I'd be more impressed if the person's spastic movements actually served to avoid the grey blocks rather than running into them more often than not. Still crazy song

Oh man, that's fucking funny! As spastic as that white dude's moves were, he's still at least twice as good as I am.

Make sure you never tell anyone about that.

SUMMARY: Fifty-four percent of voters approved Amendment 20 on November 7, 2000, which amends the state’s constitution to recognize the medical use of marijuana. The law took effect on June 1, 2001. It removes state-level criminal penalties on the use, possession and cultivation of marijuana by patients who possess written documentation from their physician affirming that he or she suffers from a debilitating condition and advising that they "might benefit from the medical use of marijuana." (Patients must possess this documentation prior to an arrest.) Patients diagnosed with the following illnesses are afforded legal protection under this act: cachexia; cancer; chronic pain; chronic nervous system disorders; epilepsy and other disorders characterized by seizures; glaucoma; HIV or AIDS; multiple sclerosis and other disorders characterized by muscle spasticity; and nausea. Other conditions are subject to approval by the Colorado Board of Health. Patients (or their primary caregivers) may legally possess no more than two ounces of usable marijuana, and may cultivate no more than six marijuana plants. The law establishes a confidential state-run patient registry that issues identification cards to qualifying patients. Patients who do not join the registry or possess greater amounts of marijuana than allowed by law may argue the "affirmative defense of medical necessity" if they are arrested on marijuana charges.

( http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3391#Colorado )

the actual amendment can be found here.

they bypassed the 6 plant limit by far, but they can still argue that since they are a major hub provider, their needs extend to the "affirmative defense of medical necessity".

a news story about it can be found here.
there's an issue with the way the warrant was carried out, so they may win even if the state appeals.

the big issue is that if this goes to a federal level, it's still illegal to possess or distribute marijuana in any amount, regardless of state laws regarding decriminalization.

How did marijuana become so demonized as to become a Schedule I substance?

So glad this one is back . . .died on me last year, but now is the time.

*makes spastic arm and leg motions around the room*

I personally think this is a stupid show idea, I mean the guy goes into the cave in the first place knowing well the chance he'll get bit. However Discover does well with these spastic shows lately...look at Danny Forester in Build It Bigger, he flips out 24/7.

Far too spastic for National Geographic. I don't see a big future for this guy in that society.

... a lot of this sounds like me just practicing multiple rhymthms (hands doing separate things, feet running at another speed on double-pedals)... and I kind of suck.

his hummingbird fast-muscles at 3/4 in are fun, though, in a spastic way.

Hey! This was largely filmed in my old neighbourhood in Scarborough (McCowan and Eglinton).

At 3:13, you can see the little variety store in the strip mall where I worked after school. The record store started off as an independent called Zounds in 1979, where I got my first John Hiatt LP and where Drastic Measures played a live set looking very, very pissy. And that final spastic jam at the end is in the vacant lot next to the slummy old highrise we lived in for several years (the big white thing that is in the background for most of the shots.)

Ahh. Scarberia. Now I want to go to a Bluffs party, climb down to the beach on someone's cheap rope, build a fire, and drink liberated beer. Except that it's too damn cold right now.