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Firefighters vs Cops

mxxcon says...

>> ^Payback:

>> ^mxxcon:
Why is police just standing there "taking it"? Why are they not shooting teargas and rubber bullets and use sonic weapons?
Getting hosed with cold water and when covered in chemical fire suppressant is as close to "police assault" as it gets.
If these were regular citizens that street would've been covered in blood.

Actually, it's not taking place in the States, so I can understand your confusion.
I guess you haven't seen the recent protests in Belgium, Romania and other European countries.

Firefighters vs Cops

Payback says...

>> ^mxxcon:

Why is police just standing there "taking it"? Why are they not shooting teargas and rubber bullets and use sonic weapons?
Getting hosed with cold water and when covered in chemical fire suppressant is as close to "police assault" as it gets.
If these were regular citizens that street would've been covered in blood.


Actually, it's not taking place in the States, so I can understand your confusion.

Firefighters vs Cops

mxxcon says...

Why is police just standing there "taking it"? Why are they not shooting teargas and rubber bullets and use sonic weapons?
Getting hosed with cold water and when covered in chemical fire suppressant is as close to "police assault" as it gets.
If these were regular citizens that street would've been covered in blood.

Toronto police charge G20 crowd singing "O Canada"

Krupo says...

People were sitting on the patios on this posh shopping street until moments earlier, enjoying their cocktails. This wasn't a rowdy/violent environment. That's what makes this horrible.

Also bad, all the madness @Tyrsis cites.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^Matthu:
@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://netrunner.videosift.com" title="member since August 5th, 2006" class="profilelink"><strong style="color: rgb(0, 0, 205);">NetRunner Siftstar celebrity extraordinaire,
So that's cool with you? Police charging dramatically at a crowd right at the end of a national anthem?
Seems like they did it for fun. Because we all like to scare the shit outta people.
Except, they're cops.
Serve and protect my ass.

It depends. There isn't enough information in this video for me to make any kind of substantive moral judgment.
If it was for fun, yeah, definitely bad.
But I suspect the police are sufficiently scared of these protesters not to fuck with them just for fun.
If it was merely a way to use intimidation to non-violently disperse a crowd of protesters, I actually like this a lot better than 90% of the kinds of things you usually see in these videos. No tear gas, no physical altercations, not even a sonic weapon. Just a sudden, terrifying charge forward, and the crowd disperses, and moves away from the area they were trying to clear.
There might be an argument about whether they had a legitimate reason to clear that particular area, but assuming they did, and it was actually as non-violent as it appeared, then I think the police did pretty well considering the kind of task they were charged with, and the kind of draconian tools they could have chosen to use instead.
There may be details we don't see here that make the cops look out of line, but the video itself actually looks like the cops doing things the way they're supposed to.

Toronto police charge G20 crowd singing "O Canada"

NetRunner says...

>> ^Matthu:

@NetRunner Siftstar celebrity extraordinaire,
So that's cool with you? Police charging dramatically at a crowd right at the end of a national anthem?
Seems like they did it for fun. Because we all like to scare the shit outta people.
Except, they're cops.
Serve and protect my ass.


It depends. There isn't enough information in this video for me to make any kind of substantive moral judgment.

If it was for fun, yeah, definitely bad.

But I suspect the police are sufficiently scared of these protesters not to fuck with them just for fun.

If it was merely a way to use intimidation to non-violently disperse a crowd of protesters, I actually like this a lot better than 90% of the kinds of things you usually see in these videos. No tear gas, no physical altercations, not even a sonic weapon. Just a sudden, terrifying charge forward, and the crowd disperses, and moves away from the area they were trying to clear.

There might be an argument about whether they had a legitimate reason to clear that particular area, but assuming they did, and it was actually as non-violent as it appeared, then I think the police did pretty well considering the kind of task they were charged with, and the kind of draconian tools they could have chosen to use instead.

There may be details we don't see here that make the cops look out of line, but the video itself actually looks like the cops doing things the way they're supposed to.

Japanese Whaling Ship Shears Bow off High Speed Anti-Whaler

moodonia says...

Apparently you've never driven a boat before or if you did you were a hazard to other vessels if you were at sea thinking that way. When two ships meet at sea they dont play chicken until theyve determined the comparative tonnages.

There are specific rules to follow to prevent collisions at sea. The Japanese ship didnt follow them and then after ramming the trimaran and nearly cutting it in two they tried to hose the crew into the freezing water. The work of cunts imo.

Briefly:
A steamer gives way to a sailing ship.

When two power-driven vessels are crossing, the vessel which has the other on the starboard side must give way.

The give-way vessel (whalers) must take early and substantial action to keep well clear.

The stand-on vessel (trimaran) may take action to avoid collision if it becomes clear that the give-way vessel is not taking appropriate action. Hence throttling up to get the boat moving to get out of the way of the ship (not to mention sonic weapons and water cannons), not to be cut in half or run over.

No collision can happen between two passing ships whilst a Green(starboard) light is opposed to a Green light or a Red(port) to Red.

PORT is the left-hand side of a ship looking to the bow, and is denoted at night by a red light.

STARBOARD is the right-hand side, and is denoted after dark by a green light.

If to your starboard RED appear,
It is your duty to keep clear;
To act as judgment says is proper;
To Port — or Starboard — Back — or Stop her!
But when upon your Port is seen
A Steamer's Starboard Light of GREEN,
There's not so much for you to do,
For GREEN to Port keeps clear of you.



>> ^bcglorf:
>> ^vaporlock:
I don't give a f^ck what your political bent is. You can't ram a ship in the middle of the ocean. They will be able to buy twenty of those little boats after the lawyers get done with them. WTF

Apparently you've never driven a boat before. One of the most basic rules is that the largest ship ALWAYS has the right of way. The reason is fundamental physics, the larger the ship, the more momentum it has meaning stopping or turning it is going to take much longer. A small boat like the one here doesn't get by hit a large ship like this unless it gets too close ON PURPOSE.
A boat that much smaller could literally run circles around the larger ship all day long and no matter how hard the larger ship tried it could never ram the smaller boat, it's just too slow and unwieldy by comparison.

Video Of Police Using Sound Trucks To Disperse G20 Protestrs

Weird Weapons of WW2 (Full Doc)

vairetube says...

it sounds like they were always one step away from completing things we now have... and are still developing (sonic weapons).

now the german engineers make vaporizers and cars in quiet supremacy.

hehe we ruined yo' sciences germanY!

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