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Nerdwriter - How Not To Adapt A Movie

RedSky says...

It was definitely dumbed down thematically though, especially from 1st/2nd GiG. While they were pretty pretentious (e.g. 'second order simulacra'), at least they were full of things to think about. The whole 'give consent' theme was as far as I can tell introduced in the adaptation and immensely cringe inducing.

What also irritated me is how they created a weird mish mash of the seperate Ghost in the Shell stories for no good reason. Why did they have to combine the 2nd GiG antagonist with the original movie's key plot scenes? It was just strange and unnecessary.

I don't at all mind the westernisation / white lead. Felt that controversy was nonsense. It's a Hollywood adaptation, why even bother remaking it if you're not going to have a new take on it or adapt it to be more familiar to local (American / English) audiences?

Same thing with the Netflix Death Note adapation. No idea if it will actually be any good but couldn't care less that they moved the location to the US and made the lead characters white. There are already multiple Japanese live action Death Note movies with Japanese leads. What's the point in another?

Mordhaus said:

I liked the movie adaptation. That said, if you have seen the various iterations of Ghost in the Shell, they don't seem tied to any common theme other than the basic one of whether or not a person's ghost (soul,id) can remain intact in a body that is heavily changed with cybernetics. The live action movie held that theme as well.

Nerdwriter - How Not To Adapt A Movie

Mordhaus says...

I liked the movie adaptation. That said, if you have seen the various iterations of Ghost in the Shell, they don't seem tied to any common theme other than the basic one of whether or not a person's ghost (soul,id) can remain intact in a body that is heavily changed with cybernetics. The live action movie held that theme as well.

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First 5 minutes of Ghost in the Shell Movie.

jmd says...

In this Ghost in the shell movie, cybernetics are just exploding. The guy on the right is pitching his major cybernetics company and he was showing the forign president on the left that their cyberbrain enhancements allowed a 4 year old to learn how to speak french AS she was singing a french lullaby. Normally this would be nothing in the GitS universe, but in the movie this is cutting edge tech. I actually disliked the lit up wire node going to his brain because cyberbrains were never a "visual" thing, but this movie may be before cyberbrains became so advanced. Infact the black president may not even have a cyberbrain, and this is simply an audio/visual transmitter implant.

The only thing I don't like is this is "too" origin. GitS was awesome because it started you in the future utopia, and then used half of its season of episodes to explain indirectly new technologies and how sociologies have changed. Cyberbrains were very commonplace and full cybernetic bodies were available to anyone who had the money, like rich people and the military. Saddly that means alot of things the tv series would have will not be in the movies because the technologies has not come yet.

however as redsky mentioned, they do seem to be latching on to the source material a lot (and aside from the revised thermocamoflauge suit.. oh and Batou's eye implants are just normal eyes and apparently his iconic lenses are just for show) so I am still hopeful. Oh, ok, one other nitpick. Somehow Kusanagi managed to spend like 10 seconds outside the windows shooting in through multiple windows before crashing through. She has no gear or technique to "stop" from her free fall, the only thing she can do is dive through the window.

Drachen_Jager said:

Why must American films explain everything?

What real person would sit across from someone over dinner and explain how their cell phone works, or how their child learned math on an iPad? Why would that change in the future? I hate this American need to assume the audience is stupid and needs to be spoon fed every bit of information.

First 5 minutes of Ghost in the Shell Movie.

RedSky says...

IMDB says so. Also here the producer is saying they're mixing in 2nd GIG with the origins story episode from that season. If you've watched it you'll know what I mean:

http://collider.com/ghost-in-the-shell-movie-villain-kuze-michael-pitt/

If they're quoting episode names then they at least familiar with the source material, so that's a plus.

jmd said:

Really? That's kuze? But this wasn't part of his storyline. Hmmm... I mean he could be some new character who is also fully cyber which seems to be the rarity in this film. Did you see an cast list to verify the name?

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Anom212325 says...

I completely disagree. Remember the comparison below was made with the very limited available video from the trailers and yet it holds very true to the source materiel.

GHOST IN THE SHELL | MOVIE VS ANIME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6m--oedzRc

artician said:

The more I see about this film the worse it looks. Every new trailer just shows me the same terrible western take on comic-based films, with total disregard for the source material where it counts.

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newtboy says...

They are one of the major systems for carbon storage, and because ph is a major factor that determines how their "shells" are made, they can also tell us how acidic the oceans were.
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