Influence is different than belief. People believe in God. People were influenced by many evil men. In this case it is the same. Lie detectors are "mystical" and "fun." Much in the same way Ouija boards are fun as when you are a kid. Yeah, a few take it to the next level, but again it is not "massive amounts of people."

And look at this. "You are not the father," followed by massive antics. "The lie detector determined that was a lie," followed by massive antics. Again, no one gives two shits about the test, they want to see the bullshit. Let me pose this (and answer it please,) do you think people would watch pop culture if it was bland just because it had a lie detector test? Of course not, because no one gives...two shits

In this regard I am actually insulting American intellect far more than if they believed in a pseudo science, lol. Those people are pathetic, just like Springer people.

And I can see the value--if it makes you happy by all means. I am just justifying why I downvoted it (for blowing up the numbers and shifting blame.)

Also, Adam even disagrees with you! Lol; he says at the end about police departments using it to obtain confessions and it not being real, and the police say "yeah we know that!" Ie., police use it as a tool of influence to scared people. What people do fear is the jury not caring that a detector is inadmissible, they fear it won't matter because perception is 9/10ths of the law.

@Trancecoach - respectfully leaving this discussion based on the following:

"You are actually going a long way to make my point that those who are "believers" in climate change are missing the value and indeed necessity for ongoing skepticism"

I don't understand how you can say that after i was the person that investigated the source of the first link you gave out. You hadn't even bothered to look into it, so i did, and you can say with a straight face that i'm a "believer" who has lost his scepticism?

You didn't even check completely through the second lot of links you posted, because the one i did check (on YOUR ultimate recommendation) ended up being written by a guy who saw climate change as one of mankind's top 10 problems. You've shown yourself twice now to be using sources that you haven't even fucking looked at, evidenced by a half hour investigation by me! You didn't even put a half hour into it!?

I remain open to evidence that climate change is not a man-made concern, or that it is not a concern. I'm not going to sit here and relay exactly how each of us think the scientific community works. You can read how it works on the scientific method and scientific consensus pages i linked earlier, anyone can. It's not open for debate; there is an overwhelming majority of scientific evidence in favour and there is not enough and not significant enough scientific evidence against. It isn't a coincidence that ~99% of the research points in one direction, and it isn't some conspiracy.... that isn't how science works. It's not perfect, a lot of shit science gets through because it's so hard to read and so relatively few people want to trawl through shite, but that's why it's better to look at the consensus - what is the AVERAGE opinion of ALL the clever people? It's a community that i consider incorruptible - because even if you paid off 10 research centres, there's still millions of individual scientists, individual institutions, so many people dedicated to keeping it pure because we know that's the only way we get the most from it. And ... the science and maths speaks for itself, the models are not "just models" as the moron associated with your latest link says. They are the best representations we have and they do represent parts of physical reality, and by using carefully considered techniques we can extract information about things. The alternative is to consult a Ouija board!?

By the way, nice 240 page pdf document for me to refer to. I didn't ask for a single link, i asked for a single point about which we were in disagreement... usually papers are cited to reinforce a point. You don't just cite something and go "there you go, read all of that, whatever you see that agrees with me; that's what i'm talking about!"

@BoneRemake
i am a man of faith.
do you feel as strongly about me as you do @bobknight33.
do you speak about me in the same tone?

everything i do.
everything i say.
every minute of every waking hour is based on my faith.
is born from my faith.

maybe it is because of my faith i read bobs commentary different.
when he states that human morality has moved on from biblical morality..he is correct.

and i thought it very prescient of him to recognize that fact.

in his second commentary i watched him attempt to express how the picture had become so much larger..and grander,which only served to cement his faith even stronger.he was not dismissing science,he was incorporating it into his faith.

which some here viewed as a dodge.
now maybe that is due to a pre-conceived idea of who bob actually is.
if you think bob is a fundamentalist then yes..his commentary may seem a tad...off.

but if you see bob as a man of faith,then his comment revealed a curiosity and desire to understand and an absolute awe at the way of things unfolding before us.

if we look at science as the understanding of the physical universe by way of theory,testing and repeatable applications of said testing.then science is actually the search for god/creator (from a faith viewpoint).

were you aware that 60% of surveyed scientists regarded themselves as people of *gasp* faith?

i see a lot of people making assumptions and presumptions about other sifters here on this thread.

so you need to ask yourself one question:
how did you come to your assumption in regards to anothers:motivations,intent,feelings,faith?

what tool did you use?

was it a crystal ball?
ouija board?
did you fall into a vat of nuclear waste and gain the super power of peering into another humans soul to discern their true intentions?

as humans we all assume to differing degrees,but if you are not a person of faith,then try to avoid those assumptions.

why not just ask bob?
he is usually gracious enough to interact with those he is full aware disagree with him..almost always.

ok.
enough ranting today.
you kids stay awesome,im off to get my pool ready !

Oh, the technique worked perfectly. It removed money from the pockets of idiots, exactly as intended.

And sorry @Stormsinger, but I think there is no chance that this dude actually believes in what he is selling. Not only that, he likely has enough experience with running this or similar scams that he knows that being debunked and maybe going viral like this will probably be a net positive to his bottom line -- more people will show up to see for themselves than will be discouraged away. Hell, I bet a higher-than-average percentage of the people attending Day 1 (excluding the group that was there as skeptics from the outset) came back for Day 2 just to see how he would respond.

There's a sucker born every minute. Some people believe in Ouija boards, pyramid power, homeopathy, etc. And some people apparently believe in "EFO". However, I feel confident that the guys putting on the "seminar" and doing the "demonstrations" (I use those terms in the loosest way possible) AREN'T among the believers.

>> ^Kofi:

This is just how World War II started


I was gonna say, this is Ouija board level shit-The moment these things synched-up you have no idea what unspeakable horrors transpired at that very moment....This is irresponsible and unpredictable.

>> ^direpickle:

@OMG_SMALL_SAMPLE_SIZE_PEOPLE
Statistics moar! If the experiment is done properly, you can do good science with a small sample size. This is what error bars and confidence levels are for.


If only there was some sort of power one could do an analysis on so as to gauge an appropriate sample size for a study. Alas statisticians shall just have to consult the Ouija table in the back of their Experimental Design and Analysis books.

“Dogs are the best detectors,” Oates said at an Oct. 20 news conference at JIEDDO headquarters in Arlington, Va.When dogs are teamed with small dismounted teams of U.S. and Afghan troops, they are capable of detecting 80 percent of IEDs, he said. “That combo presents the best detection system we currently have.”

Since it was created in 2006, JIEDDO has eagerly sought out every possible technological tool it could find in government, industry and academia to locate and remotely detonate IEDs, which have caused the majority of U.S. casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan. So far it has spent nearly $17 billion on new technologies and training programs.

...

Training and educating soldiers is critical in the fight against IEDs, Oates said. It is also the “most underappreciated” piece of JIEDDO’s portfolio. U.S. troops from the get-go face a huge disadvantage in this war because they lack knowledge of local language and culture, Oates said. They also “carry enormous ignorance” about what motivates locals to collaborate with the Taliban or al-Qaida and help them build and bury IEDs. “This is a complicated challenge for us,” Oates said.

BAGHDAD — Despite major bombings that have rattled the nation, and fears of rising violence as American troops withdraw, Iraq’s security forces have been relying on a device to detect bombs and weapons that the United States military and technical experts say is useless.

The small hand-held wand, with a telescopic antenna on a swivel, is being used at hundreds of checkpoints in Iraq. But the device works “on the same principle as a Ouija board” — the power of suggestion — said a retired United States Air Force officer, Lt. Col. Hal Bidlack, who described the wand as nothing more than an explosives divining rod.

Still, the Iraqi government has purchased more than 1,500 of the devices, known as the ADE 651, at costs from $16,500 to $60,000 each. Nearly every police checkpoint, and many Iraqi military checkpoints, have one of the devices, which are now normally used in place of physical inspections of vehicles.

I know Dag had a word with mlx when I wanted to take over the rocknroll channel. Maybe he uses ouija boards or telekinesis to get in touch with absent sifters.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Quija Board, demon, summoning, cockblock' to 'Ouija Board, demon, summoning, cockblock' - edited by xxovercastxx

I think you mean Ouija Board.

Sweet unholy fucknuggets! They've turned "I was in the abortion industry" into the new "I was a satanist." (for those who don't know, fundamentalist churches often feature[d] speakers meant to scare kids straight who would talk about how they started off with a Ouija board or Dungeons & Dragons and went from there into a full-blown satanic cult..it's all sensationalist BS, since no real Satanists of any type have ever been able to say, "Hey, that sounds like us!")

Sure, it's true I like to think of myself as a warlock of sorts. Before the snazzy 3 click method to create VideoSift I used to close my eyes and meditate with my finger tips just barely touching my laptop as if on a Ouija board. When I opened my eyes a website of my very own magically appeared as if by some kind of magical magic.

Some more spiritual people begged with me to stop, that I was toying with evil forces beyond my understanding and that great harm would befall me and my kin. But nay, I scoffed at them insisting Lord SiftBot vowed to cast a spell of protection with a level 72 potion. To this day and for all the rest I sleep with one eye open waiting, anticipating...

OMG! (LOL) Seance and Ouija board. Watch out for me, I'll be THAT drinker!

Crowley wrote about how he practiced following people until he affected them with the energies directed at them.....fuck that, "Stop following me ya drug-addled Ouija board fuck!!"

Randi is such a buzz kill. I bet he never got invited to slumber parties as a kid cuz he wouldn't shut up about the Ouija Board.