>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^Yogi:
You're not dealing with reality...you're thinking idyllically. You can't tell people "Don't have kids unless you have enough money" it won't work. So instead the society has to do something to make the situation better for all involved if it considers having children a positive thing for the society.You can tell people exactly that, in the same way you can tell them, "Don't buy a sports car unless you have enough money." Some idiots will do it anyway, and provoke the consequences. What you won't have is society paying billions to redeem their irresponsibility.


http://www.ehow.com/facts_5391105_average-cost-child-birth.html

sorta ranges from 7-10 thousand for just child birth

http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2010/06/16/cost-to-raise-a-child-in-us-tops-220000.htm

so lets say 225k to raise a child as a ward of the state (this is probably a HIGHER cost that the state would actually pay as the above estimate is for a middle class upbringing but whatever)

i mean in poorer parts of the world, it only takes 400/yr to raise a child in an orphanage with the BAREST of necessities... and then see where the cost to raise 40 million orphans compares to other expenditures http://www.stand4kids.org/the-cost-of-providing-for-40-million-orphans-vs-the-cost-of-sin/

i mean seriously, they are only part of your society, why treat them any different than someone from a 3rd world nation?

now I'm sure there aren't 40 million orphans currently in the US

In the US there are approximately 500,000 children in foster care (Based on data submitted by states as of January 16, 2008) * http://abbafund.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/orphan-statistics/

according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphanage thats alittle over 1/2 the number of orphans (according to state of New York statistics), another 1/4 is with family, and about 1/6 is in state ward care... my math may be off, but lets say, 100,000 children on tax dollars

~ 225,000,000,000 cost per year for orphans
311,954,380 current USA population http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

or $721.26 in taxes per person per year, roughly $60/month in taxes

obviously this isn't taking into account money foster parents receive to aid with their fostering... but again, the 225,000$ estimate for the cost a state facility in regards of cost to raise a child for life is HIGH... both in regards to the fact that not all children will be in the orphanage from day 1 to adult hood, some don't become orphans until later... and how the facility itself will not be spending the same amount and a middle class family to raise the child... on the other hand, not every citizen pays their taxes or is taxable

but it is very safe to assume <$60/month as the cost to each tax paying citizen in regards to this
not $60/kid... $60/month for ALL of them

its about GREED

oh man, what a burden!

http://videosift.com/video/Ben-Crane-s-not-boring-he-grew-up-in-a-dance-academy

My hero....

In reply to this comment by eric3579:
My Hero

Hard to argue with that.

In reply to this comment by eric3579:
My Hero

2 more comments have been lost in the ether at this killed duplicate.

This video has been seconded as a duplicate; transferring votes to the original video and killing this dupe - dupeof seconded with isdupe by Kevlar.

*dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Sloth-Orphanage

This video has been nominated as a duplicate of this video by Skeeve. If this nomination is seconded with *isdupe, the video will be killed and its votes transferred to the original.

>> ^bareboards2:

So I don't normally get upset about actions taken on the sift, but why the bloody heck did you isdupe this so soon?
All you did was deprive some folks of a little bit of joy in a world full of horrifying images of Japan.
Nobody is going to look at the original vid right now -- it is buried in the depths.
Why would you do that? To get some dupe badge?
Sorry for going off on you -- this whole Japan thing has got me emotionally strung out. I posted this vid as an antidote. To have it arbitrarily tossed when it was doing ABSOLUTELY NO HARM is more than I can stand right now.
In reply to this comment by chicchorea:
isdupe>> ^Ryjkyj:
dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Sloth-Orphanage
Sorry, it's a great vid.



WOW

You also got 16 votes from my killed dupe.... a showering of goodness in your direction for a very cool vid!

In reply to this comment by geo321:
Thanks for the promote!

In reply to this comment by bareboards2:
*promote

Yes, I do have the right to be upset, my friend. That is always my right.

I had asked in the comment stream for folks to wait to dupe it, and chic didn't honor that reasonable request. It's possible s/he didn't see it, of course.

I have solved my own distress about this by promoting the original. And chic isn't mad at me for being upset, s/he understood.

I have figured out a way to avoid this in the future -- and that is to ask the original person who called dupe to uncall it, if they agree that a greater good is served by having a greater audience of new folks see the latest posting. After all, the odds of seeing the original are slim. Then, when the new traffic has abated, we can go in and dupe and isdupe and transfer all the votes to the original.

That is a win win win solution -- the sift doesn't have duplicates, the original poster gets an infusion of new votes and folks who wouldn't stumble across the old vid still gets to see something fun or touching or soothing or informative.

I love win win win solutions.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
You have no right to be upset by this, as it was a dupe. The rules aren't suspended because people are suffering in Japan. If you want to post antidotes, go right ahead, but find something that isn't a dupe. Or promote/quality the original.
In reply to this comment by bareboards2:
So I don't normally get upset about actions taken on the sift, but why the bloody heck did you isdupe this so soon?

All you did was deprive some folks of a little bit of joy in a world full of horrifying images of Japan.

Nobody is going to look at the original vid right now -- it is buried in the depths.

Why would you do that? To get some dupe badge?

Sorry for going off on you -- this whole Japan thing has got me emotionally strung out. I posted this vid as an antidote. To have it arbitrarily tossed when it was doing ABSOLUTELY NO HARM is more than I can stand right now.

In reply to this comment by chicchorea:
*isdupe>> ^Ryjkyj:

dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Sloth-Orphanage
Sorry, it's a great vid.

So I don't normally get upset about actions taken on the sift, but why the bloody heck did you isdupe this so soon?

All you did was deprive some folks of a little bit of joy in a world full of horrifying images of Japan.

Nobody is going to look at the original vid right now -- it is buried in the depths.

Why would you do that? To get some dupe badge?

Sorry for going off on you -- this whole Japan thing has got me emotionally strung out. I posted this vid as an antidote. To have it arbitrarily tossed when it was doing ABSOLUTELY NO HARM is more than I can stand right now.

In reply to this comment by chicchorea:
*isdupe>> ^Ryjkyj:

dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Sloth-Orphanage
Sorry, it's a great vid.

This video has been seconded as a duplicate; transferring votes to the original video and killing this dupe - dupeof seconded with isdupe by chicchorea.

*isdupe>> ^Ryjkyj:

dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Sloth-Orphanage
Sorry, it's a great vid.

*dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Sloth-Orphanage

Sorry, it's a great vid.

This video has been nominated as a duplicate of this video by Ryjkyj. If this nomination is seconded with *isdupe, the video will be killed and its votes transferred to the original.