If you're interested in this topic, you should read 1945:the downfall of Berlin, by Anthony Beevor. Reads like a novel, and brilliantly captures both the experiences of the ordinary person on the ground as well as the manoeuvring in the circles of power.

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but if you can't manoeuvre as fast as the other guy, or hide from radar, you're also done.

i mean, rifles jam sometimes and people die, but you are still better off with a rifle than a bow and arrow.

The guys name is Russ Swift. This is from his official website:

"Russ Swift breaks his own Guinness World Record AGAIN Featured on BBC Record Breakers and Record Breakers Gold. In 1995 Russ Swift established a world record for "parallel parking". By using a hand-brake-turn the car was parked in a space between two other cars which was only 40cm longer than the car itself. Time taken was under 3 seconds. Russ first used this manoeuvre in the award winning Montego "Car Park" commercial in 1988. On 29th September 1998 Russ broke this record by parking in a space 35cm longer than the car using a Mini. The record was filmed for BBC Linfords (Christie) Record Breakers. On 17 April 1999 Russ again broke this record by parking in a space 34cm longer than the car again using a Mini Cooper. This record was filmed for Guinness World Records - A programme shown by London Weekend Television in June 99"

http://www.russswift.co.uk/

by the way, the heimlich manoeuvre can give you serious internal bleeding.
and it's not called the heimlich manoeuvre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Heimlich

Constitutional_Patriot:

Your last post is extremely disheartening for three prominent reasons:

1. It betrays even further your complete ignorance of even the most fundamental issues surrounding 9/11.
2. It demonstrates that you've been lied to by conspiracy theorists and have simply accepted those lies without question; with even a limited quantity of your own research, you would have disembogued yourself of some of these falsehoods.
3. It shows that you're willing to simply ignore evidence that refutes your theories.

I suspect the reason you find it unusual that none of the World Trade Center towers' cores survived is that you're not a structural engineer. To appeal to one's own personal and laymen's incredulity hardly makes for a compelling argument. Further, I'm not sure what basis you have for your claim that "none of the experts" can agree about the collapse of World Trade Center 7. The official report is still being drawn up, so we don't know whether there's a consensus.

Please realize that the official account of the fate of Flight 77 simply does not claim that the entire plane vaporized. I know that the conspiracy theorists have led you to believe that is does, but they have lied to you. There is overwhelming evidence that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. This includes (but isn't limited to) dozens of pieces of eyewitness testimony, numberless pieces of recovered debris (including engine wreckage), recovered and functional flight data recorders and the DNA identification of all but one of the passengers. This is the third time that I've referred you to this evidence. You must be straightforwardly and intentionally ignoring it. The engines did leave a rather distinct mark -- they were instrumental in creating the seventy-five foot wide hole in the building. There is absolutely no evidence of a cruise missile. If an amateur pilot with little experience can recreate Hanjour's Pentagon strike in a professional simulator with a consistency level of three successes in three attempts, it's fairly clear that the manoeuvre was nothing like the complex array of aerobatics you've been to led believe it was. Hanjour was a commercially licensed and instrument rated pilot. The chief flight instructor at Hanjour's flight school doesn't seem to foster any of your doubts:

Despite Hanjour's poor reviews, he did have some ability as a pilot, said Bernard of Freeway Airport. "There's no doubt in my mind that once that [hijacked jet] got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it," he said.

There's no reason to think that the scattering of light debris is incompatible with Flight 93 having been intentionally crashed. If you were to dump a pile of papers and other light materials in the middle of a field, it might not come as an enormous surprise if sometime later they had been scattered -- especially if you'd dumped them there at over five-hundred miles per hour in what basically amounts to a relatively fragile pressurised tube. As I've already pointed out, the flight data recorders and the cockpit voice recorders were recovered. None of the resultant data supports the claim that the plane was shot down. It all supports the conclusion that the plane was intentionally crashed by the hijackers due to a passenger revolt.

Lastly, you seem to be equally ignorant as the nature of the Project for a New American Century Report. It says nothing about "wanting" a new Pearl Harbor. It has nothing to do with pretexts for war, the Patriot Act or, for that, with any civil matters. It pushes for increased military technology spending -- missile defence systems, etc. -- in order to preserve American military prominence.

errr... how do you stop? how do you manoeuvre? are you kidding? wtf!

This show trumps up the 23 a bit. The reason it was rejected was because although stealth technology can be made obsolete by a new radar system, a more manoeuvrable plane can always turn quickly.

Indeed, absolutely great television. The first episode was good I thought, it set up things well and definitely held my interest. Episode 3 (Carentan) is about the best there is. I thought it dragged slightly in the later episodes but only because it set such a high standard for it's self.

Just a bit of trivia, this is the episode directed by Tom Hanks. I really like the bit where Winters stares into the German kid's eyes, it's about half a second but it feels like an age. It haunts him later, I guess that if this wasn't his first kill, it was the first where he was concious of exactly what he was doing as he pulled the trigger, and Hanks captures this superbly.

Other than that, yeah, intense. The Americans trying to capitalise on their surprise as quickly as possible, which would have been more effective with a working smoke grenade!

EDIT: He fires 9 rounds at first, don't these guns have 8 round magazines? Maybe he had one in the spout, I don't know if you can do that with a Garand, but if so it would make sense when you are trying to fire as fast as possible. Not sure about firing from the hip mind you, did Sobel teach him that?! I only count 6 in his next round but that's harder to keep track of.

But yeah, welcome to the flanking manoeuvre. Even with a "whole other company" and fast artie response, that was a massacre.