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It's not Lucille I find interesting here. I started watching before reading the description and thought the woman in the middle was such an amazing relaxed dancer, even though I know nothing about dancing.

The fact that it's Ginger Rogers just shows how much class and ability shine through so clearly.

Holy crap! Is that Lucille Bluth @ 40 seconds?
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Hitchens will always be a hero of mine, however, I find I disagree with him on many things. I really dig Amy Schumer. Although she normally performs much bluer than she can on Kimmel here, I think she's hilarious no matter what. For me, it's women like Schuler, Sarah Silverman, Kristen Wiig, Tina Fey, Melissa McCarthy, Ellen Degeneres, Carol Burnett, Lucille Ball (to name just a few), that expose Hitchen's treatise as a puckish exercise in editorial, rather than serious condemnation of a humorless gender.

Maybe I just don't know what's funny.

All Hail to the vital people whom work at children's hospitals worldwide which imbue this spirit...Coping couldn't be done without you.

Michaela, our first born daughter (2004-2011, HLHS: 2/3 cardiac transformation surgeries & 2 heart transplants), brought us in contact with many wonderful people at Stanford's Lucile Packard Children's Hospital. We will never forget them either.

Interaction with the audience is a big part of Carr's stand-up, and the basis of the interaction is that Carr is quicker and wittier than the audience members. People who go to his show deliberately heckle him just to see him tear them to shreds. That part of Carr's on-stage persona is very much the sort of wise-cracking "my-knob-is-bigger-than-yours" thing that Fry attributes to American comedy.

I also don't think the self-deprecating "hapless loser" style of comedy is a new thing in America. Self-deprecation has always been a big part of Jewish comedy (Woody Allen is a good example), which has been central to the American comic tradition. Besides that, I already mentioned Lucille Ball, who certainly isn't a recent phenomenon. You can add the Three Stooges to that list. Also Phyllis Diller and (more recently) Chris Farley.

It might be true that self-deprecating humor is more common in British comedy, but it has been a big enough part of American comedy that I find it a little misleading to characterize it as a specifically British trait.

I don't know about this... Think about the best American comic right now, Louis CK. His on-stage (and on-screen) persona almost exactly fits what Fry describes as the British archetype. And he's not alone: think about Larry David in Curb Your Enthusiasm, George Costanza in Seinfeld, Homer Simpson, even Lucille Ball.

On the flip side, British comedians like Russell Brand, Jimmy Carr and Rowan Atkinson in Blackadder (except for the first season) are more like Fry's description of American comedy. It seems to me that what Fry has done here is come up with a nice neat story about differing national character based on broad stereotypes rather than acute observation, turned that into a theory of comedy, and then cherry-picked examples that fit his theory without mentioning exceptions. It all sounds very impressive given his amazing facility with language and rhetoric, but it's not very good analysis.

>> ^Issykitty:

OMG yes! @ant is going? Yeah!!! I do wish we were going to Lucille's though. They have amazing tri-tip, bbq ribs, and biscuits with apple butter. Ah well. BJ's is ok, I guess. They are only a step above TGIF's in my opinion. Then again, I haven't been there in a long time. I am probably way off in my estimation of them.


I didn't confirm that I was going! Reread what I said! Your husband (didn't know you were married ) isn't going? Oooh. I also don't like alcohol either, and coffee. They make me puke.

OMG yes! @ant is going? Yeah!!! I do wish we were going to Lucille's though. They have amazing tri-tip, bbq ribs, and biscuits with apple butter. Ah well. BJ's is ok, I guess. They are only a step above TGIF's in my opinion. Then again, I haven't been there in a long time. I am probably way off in my estimation of them.

>> ^Issykitty:

There's also a Lucille's Smokehouse BBQ restaurant close to Brea Mall right off the 57 and Imperial, I believe. They have lots of room to accomodate big parties and a full bar. Win-win!
>> ^lucky760:
If everyone else if up for it, let's do it closer to (or in) Orange County, so I can make it as well. (My ban hammer is too heavy to be carried long distances.)
We could do a more general purpose spot like BJ's Restaurant and Brewery at the Brea Mall, which is just across the border from LA County.



Oooh, right by Fullerton where I go to church!

There's also a Lucille's Smokehouse BBQ restaurant close to Brea Mall right off the 57 and Imperial, I believe. They have lots of room to accomodate big parties and a full bar. Win-win!

>> ^lucky760:

If everyone else if up for it, let's do it closer to (or in) Orange County, so I can make it as well. (My ban hammer is too heavy to be carried long distances.)
We could do a more general purpose spot like BJ's Restaurant and Brewery at the Brea Mall, which is just across the border from LA County.