That looked silky smooth to me. I've felt much rougher landings with all landing gear locked in place.

Looks like the nose wheel didn't lock into position when their landing gear descended. At the speed they were going there wasn't much danger, but I would have definitely felt the need to hug after a landing like that.

I don't know. Doesn't seem overly foolish to me: it is a plane he's using, not a schoolbus. And he's not counting on his engine, just the physics and the known flight characteristics of his aicraft....which he probably knows like the back of his hand. Plus a skilled pilot should be able to land a plane with no power.

He picked a clear day, presumably little to no wind, and knew the area (I'm also going to assume he checked his takeoff slope for anything that would really mess him up). His landing zone was massive...lots of room for error. The takeoff was a bit weird, but running a plane down a hill to takeoff isn't unheard of either (bush pilots with ski landing gear do this all the time on glaciers for instance, albeit under power)

Actually, having flown with a few bush pilots myself, but almost seems a bit tame...those guys are generally nuts, and regularly fly in conditions that make this look like a walk in the park. ;-)

If that rock would of been in front of his landing gear, this would of been an EIA video. I can't figure out if this was daring and challenging, or crazy and foolish.

>> ^Payback:
^ Not to burst your bubble, but the only way he could get out to help people down the slides was through his window. The crush of bodies probably jammed the cockpit door solid.


Or the config of the emergency door, not just the bodies. Still I like "fear of slides"

"no fire" because they no doubt ran a bunch of laps until the gas tanks were almost empty!

Sometimes when my "landing gear" is stuck I'll try the risky bounce maneuver as well.

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>> ^jacobrecker:
wow i think you are right. hmm the first clip shows a wheel (maybe 2 wheels attached with a small axle) moving and then the plane collapses down drastically. the second clip shows 1 wheel move and the plane doesnt collapse down. strange stufg
>> ^NicoleBee:
Ummm.. The two clips they show seem to be of different events.



I'm guessing the video of the tire falling off was the correct one, but someone on the news floor thought it wasn't exciting enough and had to show unrelated footage of a planes landing gear collapsing? I wonder if it's even of the same model plane. It's almost certainly not from the night crash they describe later.

I tentatively chalk this one up to lazy/irresponsible newscasting.. But it's still a good video.

>> ^Shepppard:

Dude, give it up. you can't prove the cat died of hypothermia, but you also can't prove it didn't, either.


The "you can't disprove it" argument? Give me a break.


The only thing the guy has to go on is that it was sent to a vet that he doesn't know, who said the most likely cause of death was uterine toxity. Now, many things could've happened there.
We don't know what made the kittens die, maybe it was complications, maybe it had something to do with why the cat froze to death, too.


No, we go with whatever explanation is more likely based on the evidence and keep it in context of the situation. And you are weighting the autopsy far, far down in reliability while simultaneously taking the "clean bill of health" the morning before as completely accurate. It's the pet equivalent of a doctor's checkup - it's not going to predict a stroke the next day or a thousand other serious conditions.


The ONLY thing's we know about this video, guy sends a healthy pregnant kitty to someone else on a plane. Cat gets put on plane. Cat is dead and frozen (Twice) upon arrival. There's no middle ground there, we have no information on what happened while it was in the cargo hold of the plane, so for all we know, the landing gear didn't fully close and caused a small draft, at that altitude, the temperature would already be incredibly low, not to mention that it's winter.

We don't need that information, but it would be helpful. Also, have you noticed that most of your argument is actually speculation? What we know is:

1. Pregnant cat gets a checkup and deemed healthy
2. Dies during air travel
3. Described as frozen on arrival
4. Vetinarian's autopsy says the cat died of uterine toxicity from dead kittens.

What's more likely, the checkup couldn't catch that sort of death impending and "frozen" was rigor mortis plus a cooled body, OR, there was some sort of major mechanical failure in the aircraft AND the autopsy was wildy innacurate. Given the available information, it's much more likely to be uterine toxicity.



Now, if it was ME in this situation, and I not only sold a cat to someone for $2500, but one that I'd loved and had for years, I'd probably be pretty pissed off too. And being as the cat was healthy THAT MORNING, the only logical explanation is that something happened to it, more then likely while it was in the planes care. And if they can't prove misconduct on the airlines part, I believe they forfeit any rights to sue for the loss of not only his money, but his pet.


And you complained at me for attempting to "prove" it one way or another? I refuse to ever make a claim of absolute certainty and you just said that literally the only logical explanation was something happened to it.


So, yeah. I'd want my own autopsy on it, too.

The airline offered the cat so he could get his own autopsy but he declined.

>> ^Lieu:
This is why we humans fail so much. "...any evidence I could have gotten to prove death of hypothermia is out the window."
Talk about confirmation bias.
What an idiot. This guy decided long before the autopsy what the cause of death was. The autopsy, the best method by far of establishing unknown death, says uterine toxity from death of kittens? Too bad, there's no changing his mind now. Intuition and cognitive bias "triumphs" yet again. Intuition says cold = hypothermia. How about after any cause of death metabolism stops and the body cools to its surroundings? How about looking at all explanations objectively?
Depressing. Now Joe Average will watch this and think automatically the airline must have "done" something to the cat and pay no attention to the actual vet's diagnosis.



Dude, give it up. you can't prove the cat died of hypothermia, but you also can't prove it didn't, either.

The only thing the guy has to go on is that it was sent to a vet that he doesn't know, who said the most likely cause of death was uterine toxity. Now, many things could've happened there.

We don't know what made the kittens die, maybe it was complications, maybe it had something to do with why the cat froze to death, too.

The ONLY thing's we know about this video, guy sends a healthy pregnant kitty to someone else on a plane. Cat gets put on plane. Cat is dead and frozen (Twice) upon arrival. There's no middle ground there, we have no information on what happened while it was in the cargo hold of the plane, so for all we know, the landing gear didn't fully close and caused a small draft, at that altitude, the temperature would already be incredibly low, not to mention that it's winter.

Now, if it was ME in this situation, and I not only sold a cat to someone for $2500, but one that I'd loved and had for years, I'd probably be pretty pissed off too. And being as the cat was healthy THAT MORNING, the only logical explanation is that something happened to it, more then likely while it was in the planes care. And if they can't prove misconduct on the airlines part, I believe they forfeit any rights to sue for the loss of not only his money, but his pet. So, yeah. I'd want my own autopsy on it, too.

>> ^MINK:
maybe mintbbb should fix the title, and everyone who thinks it's ok to be racist about russians should check their attitude.

Then who am I supposed to be racist against? Is it only racist because you don't agree? Because maybe, you're Russian or have Russian friends/family?

Racism is fine...

This isn't fascinating at all. The airplane's forward momentum doesn't come from the ground -- it comes from the air pushed backwards by the propeller. All that happened here was that the wheels on the landing gear had to move twice as fast as normal.

It's just like saying a steamship can't sail into the wind. Why not?

And I have the honour of sleeping with one. But her family has been in Lithuania for years and her grandmother was in Poland. They're Old Believers. So technically their state rejected them hundreds of years ago and they STILL call themselves Russian... it's a blood thing not a national thing, but they use the name of the nation to describe the blood. As an "englishman" i kinda accept that all blood is mixed anyway.

Anyway, where in Russia are you? I still haven't visited... but I would love to go make some music over there...



In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
Well, I agree with that of course. I'm Russian.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
we're just arguing about the definition of "race" which is like... incredibly arguable.

main thing is, you shouldn't think it's ok to laugh at videos of russian stupidity as if it's genetic.


In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
It's a nationality and an ethnicity ("a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or presumed"). It's certainly not a race, just like French or German is not a race.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
privyet

let's just say russians consider themselves to be a race more than anglosaxons do. we're all the human race if you want to get strict about it.

and the kind of insults russians get are more racial than national... meaning they are more about insulting some kind of genetic stupidity of "the russians" rather than talking about the state of russia.

fourth generation russian emigrants in lithuania still call themselves Russian and don't intermarry. That's... kinda racially minded.




In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
>> ^MINK:
maybe mintbbb should fix the title, and everyone who thinks it's ok to be racist about russians should check their attitude.


"Russian" isn't a race.