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BAMM! RIght on the FACE!
Tags for this video have been changed from 'football, street, funny, knockout, entertainment' to 'banball, ban, banny, banout, bantertainment' - edited by Sarzy
Knock Out With The First Punch!
Tags for this video have been changed from 'ko, one, punch, seeing stars, knocked silly' to 'ko, one, punch, jimmy thunder, grimsley, 1997, knockout, boxing' - edited by MycroftHomlz
Tymbrwulf (Member Profile)
My apologies, only bronze stars and up can fix videos. I'm going to discard your video, sorry.
In reply to this comment by Tymbrwulf:
There is no "fix video embed code" link?
In reply to this comment by rembar:
Go to the Youtube page of the video, and copy the embed code. Go to the link I provided above, then click the link just under the title but above the video that says "fix video embed code". Paste the embed code, click "save changes", and you're good to go.
In reply to this comment by Tymbrwulf:
Yeah I saw that one, but I wasn't sure if it was the same video because it was dead. How do I go about fixing the other sift then? I'm still new.
rembar (Member Profile)
There is no "fix video embed code" link?
In reply to this comment by rembar:
Go to the Youtube page of the video, and copy the embed code. Go to the link I provided above, then click the link just under the title but above the video that says "fix video embed code". Paste the embed code, click "save changes", and you're good to go.
In reply to this comment by Tymbrwulf:
Yeah I saw that one, but I wasn't sure if it was the same video because it was dead. How do I go about fixing the other sift then? I'm still new.
Tymbrwulf (Member Profile)
Go to the Youtube page of the video, and copy the embed code. Go to the link I provided above, then click the link just under the title but above the video that says "fix video embed code". Paste the embed code, click "save changes", and you're good to go.
In reply to this comment by Tymbrwulf:
Yeah I saw that one, but I wasn't sure if it was the same video because it was dead. How do I go about fixing the other sift then? I'm still new.
Brutal Pride Knockouts
There's one thing I don't get about the differences in Pride and UFC rules. In UFC, you can't kick or knee a downed opponent to the head, but you can in Pride. In Pride you can't strike with elbows to the head, but you can in UFC. I'm sure it has something to do with the differences in the rules & regulations for where the event is held, but it seems to me that knees, kicks and head stomps are more dangerous than an elbow to the head.
The elbow ban in Pride FC was, as I remember it, more of an issue with fighters trying to win by trying to open up a huge, uncloseable but non-damaging cut, making for boring ends to fights and a pretty shitty way of winning. I'm undecided as to kneeing, kicking, and stomping a downed opponent - I know I've appreciated having the rules swing in my favor, but I can remember a few times that I would have destroyed my opponent if I could have kneed to the head (particularly with north-south ownage). Safety first, obviously, but it does make MMA feel a bit more...sport-like, just like the "no punching to the back of the head" rule.
It's a moot point, though, seeing as how Pride FC is dysfunctional under Zuffa control.
Anyhow, this video is a dupe of this sift. Tymbrwulf, I suggest you use this video's embed code to fix the other sift, and discard this one.
Brutal Pride Knockouts
Tags for this video have been changed from 'pride, fighting, knockout, KO, brutal' to 'pride, fighting, knockout, KO, brutal, mixed martial arts, mma' - edited by rembar
540 Spin Kick Triple Board Break! (5 Seconds)
That's the whole point of Krav Maga. To be able to dispatch opponents in the fastest manner possible. I've never practiced it myself, but I've seen it at work and a master of the art could quickly disable several opponents in a matter of seconds. I think you underestimate the training and real world practicality of martial arts.
And here I was assuming that you were a Krav practitioner, and we'd have to compare experiences. I'm trying not to be a dick about this, because I respect you, but let me ask: I have practiced Krav Maga for three months, in the downtime between traveling and switching between real schools, and sparred with a bunch of Krav guys during that period and afterwards, students who trained under about three or four instructors. Not a lot of exposure, admittedly, but enough that I think I have seen generally what Krav Maga has to offer in training for a fight, and which I believe to be not adequate for successfully fighting multiple opponents unarmed. You have not practiced Krav Maga ever. So how is it that you are confident you have a better grasp of the applicability of Krav Maga in a fight than I do?
I just don't get it...what did you see that convinced you that Krav Maga is this ultimate +5 vorpal martial art of ass-kicking? I know you've mentioned it several times before, and I figured it was because you practiced Krav, but you say you haven't. Have you ever seen a Krav guy take out multiple fully resisting opponents in a few seconds? If not, then how can you be so sure a good Krav guy can do this? How exactly are you figuring on this happening, by the way? Knockouts? Joint locks? Eye gouges? Chi blasts? Hell, it's unlikely for a good fighter to take out a single opponent in a few seconds, and that depends largely upon enormous luck with landing a massive power shot to the jaw. I do not believe it is possible for any fighter to take out multiple opponents, unarmed, in a matter of seconds, short of the aid of an act of God. There is no realistic way a human can do this.
The best advice I ever got from a Krav instructor on fighting multiple opponents was to work on my cardio and my sprint starts.
The One, The Only, The Crazy Iron Mike
Tags for this video have been changed from 'highlights, boxing, knockouts, fights' to 'highlights, boxing, knockouts, fights, final countdown' - edited by swampgirl
Ultimate Fighter Get's Knocked out and Gains the Win.
Tags changed from "ultimate fighter double knockout fight" to "double knockout, mixed martial art" by gold star member rembar.
Anatomy Of A One Punch Knockout
I'm not surprised that this is on Break, considering all the knockout videos they like to show.
Ten Top Boxing Knockouts at Friday Night Fights
Definitely wouldn't call that the ten best boxing knockouts. I didn't see any KOs from Tyson, Ali, or Sugar Ray, to name just a few.
Perhaps this is supposed to be a list of the top ten knockouts from Friday Night Fights?
Tornado Kick to the Face
Tags changed from "tornado, kick, karate, knockout, ko" to "tornado, kick, tae kwon do, knockout, ko" by gold star member rembar.
Death from Above, Part 1: Flying Submission Attacks
*sigh*.
While it is true that the Gracie family made submission attacks famous by representing Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ) in mixed martial arts (MMA), everything you just posted is - and I almost never say this - completely ignorant of the sport and martial arts as a whole.
Submissions were not brought into "the sport" - and by this, I assume you mean MMA - by the Gracies. The Gracies, as I wrote in my BJJ sift, took the judo/jujitsu taught to them by Mitsuyo Maeda and developed the newaza groundwork into a new system, focused on establishing positional improvement and dominance before the application of submissions. It was this conceptual change from the general judo mindset of throw-and-fall-or-scramble-to-position, rather than the submissions themselves. Judo, for the most part, has all the submission BJJ does, it just generally doesn't train them as much or as well. So really, the submissions were brought into the sport by judo, which was brought into creation by Kano through adaptation of the teachings of jiu-jitsu. If you want to argue about fighters using the submissions, sure Royce Gracie made use of them famously in UFC 1, but the first UFC tournament was set up to ensure no other submission grappling styles, including judo, was entered to make a clearer differentiation of style versus style, among other reasons. When such fighter picking was stopped, submission fighters from many styles sprung up in MMA competition.
If you're not talking about modern MMA, then consider the fact that pankration from Greece in 648 BC was the first Western MMA competition, and chokeholds and joint locks were widely displayed and documented.
Consider that catch wrestling can be traced in nearly every culture, from Lancashire catch-as-catch-can wrestling to the US hook wrestling to the Indian pehlwani.
Or you might even be referencing the infamous gong sau of China, where kung fu masters would challenge each other for the rights to open schools in villages or cities, matching style versus style, starting from millenia ago and continuing to the present day. Of course, dubious as the documentation surrounding those matches were, and as stupid as kwoon-storming is, there have been accounts of Chin na masters defeating other strikers through armbars and rear naked chokes.
As for "ruining the sport", I can only assume you're talking about the present version of MMA, as represented largely by the UFC and Pride FC (which have recently been merged as one organization. The UFC and Pride, as you may know, evolved out of the Vale tudo competitions in Brazil and Japan, which when brought to the US were imitated and televised. Of course, you should also be aware of the fact that vale tudo tournaments were largely organized by Helio Gracie, the original creator of Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and his descendants. The UFC was created largely as the brainchild of Rorion Gracie, Helio's eldest son and BJJ black belt, as well as Art Davies, one of Rorion's student. In fact, according to many inside sources who were present for the UFC's founding, it was created in a large part to showcase BJJ for the US, just as Pride FC was created in a a large part to showcase Rickson Gracie, another one of Helio's sons, versus Nobuhiko Takada, a famous Japanese shoot-wrestler and mixed martial artist who also trained in a form of submission wrestling. So how exactly do you figure that modern MMA, which exists largely because the Gracies wanted to showcase the effectiveness of submission fighting versus pure striking styles, is somehow ruined because it did exactly that?
And finally, you have absolutely no idea about submission grappling. If you think getting a submission hold is a "basic skill" that can beat anybody, and the sport now revolves around using and avoiding those holds, then how do you figure that only one of the five current UFC title holders is a well-known submission specialist, and even HE won his title fight two days ago by knockout? If it's such a get-out-of-jail-free card, why doesn't everybody just use those magical subs? How come sprawl-and-brawl and ground-and-pound are becoming such dominant strategies of fighting in MMA fights? Oh, and what did you mean by "strength, skill, stamina or fighting spirit" having no effect on submission grappling? Superior skill, strength, stamina, and fighting spirit is what submission grappling is all about. The fighter with the greatest combination of all four will win, just as with any other art in MMA. Look at Yuki Nakai, the grappler who continued a fight despite being eye-gouged illegally to the point of complete blindness and yet continued on not only win his fight by submission but also fight AGAIN the SAME night against the most feared grappler in the world at the time, Rickson Gracie. Look at Ronaldo de Souza, aka Jacare, who had his arm broken in a fight but continued to fight and win. Heck, look at Rickson Gracie, who is well-known for having an insane cardio routines involving sandy beaches and mountain running. Or any of the MMA athletes at the top of the sport, who train and spar and weight lift and run and work out for hours on end each day and every day so they can become strong and build up endurance and improve their skills, all thanks to their fighting spirit and determination to be the best.
If you doubt me on any of those facts, just get yourself to a real, honest-to-goodness MMA gym, and tell the first MMA fighter you see that submission holds are ruining the sport. Seriously. I'd like to know what happens.
Do you know why I'm annoyed by your comment, Enzoblue? I'm annoyed because training submission grappling is not fucking easy. It is hard, painful work to train. It is expensive as hell, in terms of money as well as time and effort. I am shit-awful at it, and my only goal each day I step on the mat, which is every damn day, is to suck a little less than the day before, and sometimes, like today, I don't feel like that's happened, and I haven't been able to move my neck in certain directions for days because of a neck crank that got cranked on too hard. And yet tomorrow, I'm going to put on my smelly, sweaty gi, get in my friend's carpool, and go roll around on a mat with large, sweaty men who outweigh me by over 50 pounds on average for several hours, and come back tired and sore and cranky. (Hah, pun, get it? It's a joke because my spinal column isn't functioning properly.) And I'm happy with all of that, from the musty gym smell to the same old jokes my friends make about me being gay that they've made for years, because through my training I know I am acquiring a skillset that is not available or acquired in the general public, and yes, I do take pride in what I do because it is a part of my life and part of who I am, and also there's the fact that my training and dedication can and have helped me to choke fools out who are deserving of it, just as those things have saved the lives of friends and acquaintances who were attacked in ghettos and Iraqi villages. And yet here you come to say that I, along with every other MMA competitor who has devoted far larger amounts of their life to perfecting the art of submission grappling, am ruining the beautiful sport of mixed martial arts, a sport that I am, as well as those competitors far above me, dedicated to as well and one that I do my best to represent well in the public eye. No. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to let you say that, because you're wrong.
Consider this: the UFC and modern MMA changed what "one would actually consider fighting". People used to think those flicky, chambered TKD kicks would hurt, or that they could just avoid a takedown attempt with elbows to the spine, or even in later years, they could just fight out of guard. The sport has evolved, and anybody who has a half a brain can see that a good MMA fighter needs to train to fight out of the three ranges that have been established through the test of the fight, standup, clinch, and ground, as well as be able to strike, grapple, and submit from all three ranges if necessary, as well as defend against an opponent's attempts to do so to oneself. Submission grappling is part of the sport out of necessity, not because it's what people (and by that I mean Westerners) think of when they think about fighting, or because it looks pretty - it's in the sport because it works. The skills and abilities trained in sub grappling allow a more skilled fighter to beat a less skilled opponent, given reasonable size comparisons, just as with every other martial art that has been used with success in MMA. The concept of MMA is the extension of Bruce Lee's philosophy of Jeet Kune Do - take what works, and lose what doesn't. So in reality, sub grappling being used to win fights in MMA is really part of the evolution and development of martial arts, in fact it embodies what MMA and the development of effective martial arts is all about. And if that simple fact offends, then perhaps you don't understand quite as much about MMA as you might like to think you do.
Sigh, another guy to knock out.
Knockout?!
At least let the guy stand up and test his composure before calling off the fight.
Upvote purely for the contrast in attitudes.