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Some of you probably know I'm a few shades pinker than Castro. Yet I'm disappointed by the left on this matter. I first got nervous when the gun control debate began following the Javon Belcher (KC chief player) incident. It seemed ridiculous to me because obviously no form of reasonable gun control could have stopped an incident like that. It was a linebacker murdering his slight girlfriend and then committing suicide. He didn't need a gun. Still the media began the debate as though they were clearly itching too. That was quickly overshadowed by the Sandy Hook tragedy which was a much more effective rallying cause. Obviously it's natural for the debate to be rekindled after that sort of an incident, but I was disappointed by how disingenuous and emotionally driven it seemed. I couldn't help but think about the availability heuristic ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic ) and how obviously it was coming into play. I thought the left would be better than this. We're supposed to be known for our rejection of knee-jerk responses preferring instead data driven policy. I was reminded of the Republican line-toeing following 9/11. It honestly sickened me.

The fact is every stat I've seen supports this guy's claim (and I spent many hours doing my own research, not just quoting links I found on huffpo or whatever). There is effectively no data that supports the sort of legislation being put forth and virtually no reason to fear that your children are at risk. Basically every case made against assault rifles can be made with much more conviction about alcohol. They are things that a subset of people enjoy, yet occasionally cause harm to people that don't. Alcohol much more so (by a huge factor, something like hundreds depending on how you measure it) than assault rifles. This incident is being used in keeping with Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine. Don't get duped just because they are playing to your fears instead of redneck fears.

Also, it isn't racist to suggest that a large portion of the US murder rate is urban gang and drug related. That's a fact. That someone would even suggest that it is racist further sickens me. You all seem more interested in political correctness than data. Put on your skeptics hat folks. Question what you believe for once.

>> ^rottenseed:

Nobody is arguing that there is heavy risk involved with the sport. It's why they're paid so much. It's also why you don't see as many football pick-up leagues as you do softball ones — nobody's willing to risk injury if they're not making tons of dough. The argument is sportsmanship. I hate Peyton Manning...especially now that he's on the Broncos, but dammit if I wasn't bummed when he was seriously injured last year. That's what defines me as a human being: the capacity to have compassion when a fellow human being is injured. That's also what makes KC fans a bunch of animals (although I don't count it because mob mentality is a fucked up beast in and of itself). Your argument is void because you're assuming that because a sport includes risk — or even the tendency toward violence — we should cheer on the physical pain and suffering of another human being.>> ^JiggaJonson:
@Sagemind Did you check out the link I posted above?
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1905-11-27/ed-1/seq-
1/
It's a bit ironic that the headline about 19 people dying playing football is right next to a story about 18 people dying when two FUCKING TRAINS COLLIDED.
Like it or not, football was born as a sport where people get seriously injured (or died). Congrats on what you support.



His Argument is not "Void" because of what happened at that game. Que era demonstrata, they cheered for the injury of a fellow human being, this isn't something unique to football either but it is something that humans do. Yes humans have the capacity for for compassion...except for all the fucking times when they don't show any sort of compassion. Putting this solely on KC fans is BS, it happens constantly, even in High School ball.

Nobody is arguing that there is heavy risk involved with the sport. It's why they're paid so much. It's also why you don't see as many football pick-up leagues as you do softball ones — nobody's willing to risk injury if they're not making tons of dough. The argument is sportsmanship. I hate Peyton Manning...especially now that he's on the Broncos, but dammit if I wasn't bummed when he was seriously injured last year. That's what defines me as a human being: the capacity to have compassion when a fellow human being is injured. That's also what makes KC fans a bunch of animals (although I don't count it because mob mentality is a fucked up beast in and of itself). Your argument is void because you're assuming that because a sport includes risk — or even the tendency toward violence — we should cheer on the physical pain and suffering of another human being.>> ^JiggaJonson:

@Sagemind Did you check out the link I posted above?
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1905-11-27/ed-1/seq-
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It's a bit ironic that the headline about 19 people dying playing football is right next to a story about 18 people dying when two FUCKING TRAINS COLLIDED.
Like it or not, football was born as a sport where people get seriously injured (or died). Congrats on what you support.

Serious. That's fucked up. I know individuals are more important than team. Maybe that's the mentality I don't possess which makes it easy to cheer unwaveringly for a particular team rather than people or personal convictions. Maybe that's what I have that the average sports fanatic doesn't.>> ^bmacs27:

Matt Cassel has been a bit of a scapegoat for KC fans. Also, they have an arguably more competent backup in Brady Quinn. That's in some ways the most despicable part. People weren't cheering the hit so much as the personnel ramifications of the hit. That they could let their animosity for their own player get to that point is a bit disturbing. It shows utter detachment from the humanity of the players. I think that's the point Winston is making. >> ^messenger:
Why did KC fans cheer when their own QB went down?