Well... wasn't expecting to find out I've been mispronouncing "Bondi" for 24 years (since the first iMac came out, which was "Bondi blue," named after this beach).

I know right! We'll finally get the iMac!

When the power supply stopped working in my iMac, Apple refused not only to fix it, but they refused to ship a replacement part saying they don't support "Legacy computers" - My computer was only three years old. My only course of action was to Buy a new one - which cost me $3000. I was desperate and needed to access my data and programs. As it was, although I got my entire hard drive converted to an external drive, I was never able to access my emails at all, which is what I was really after, as I was in the middle buying a home, and all my legal doc were in my emails. As well as other finance related emails.

I love macs, but I'm not sure I want to ever buy another one.

I had my Mac Classic for years, then got a Quadra 605, then Quadra 630. Then my favorite of all was the dual core G5 I got in 2003, I could play Call of Duty online while rendering 3D animations in the background without any performance hit. Then a Mac mini and finally a 27" iMac with a dual boot with Windows 10.

I don't buy & never recommend buying Apple products on ethical principles since the iMac days.

Apple still makes some good products, but their competition has had plenty of time to catch up. I mean look at the Microsoft Surface commercial that came out the day before last year's Macworld. It's everything that a modern iMac should be, but the basic design of the iMac hasn't changed in 5+ years.

Oh, and about Apple still having some decent products, iTunes isn't one of them.

I bust out laughing at 5:30. I've always hated working on laptops, almost as much as I hated taking apart the original iMacs.

A natural comparison...people want to idolize Steve Jobs for what he did with Apple...iphones...macbooks...imacs, etc. And thats fine I guess.

But Bill Gates is someone who should be idolized. What he is doing with his foundation is remarkable and world changing. Helping scientists, engineers, researchers to flourish and bring in technology like this is fantastic.

>> ^nach0s:

I listen to Bill's podcast, and I know he has at least one iMac. I think he has an iPhone too. I like that he tries to embrace it, but can't help but be cynical at the same time.


I hope that you're not trying to listen to it on Apple's new Podcasts app for iOS 6, because it's a complete nightmare.

I listen to Bill's podcast, and I know he has at least one iMac. I think he has an iPhone too. I like that he tries to embrace it, but can't help but be cynical at the same time.

>> ^jmzero:

My point was that, if you buy "nice" enough parts (like all parts of an Apple system are "nice"), you end up with a PC that costs about the same as a Mac.

OK, your point is way, way stupider than I thought it was. "Nice".


What part don't you understand? You used the word "nice" twice in your list of parts you fucking dipshit.

>> ^jmzero:

My point was that, if you buy "nice" enough parts (like all parts of an Apple system are "nice"), you end up with a PC that costs about the same as a Mac.

OK, your point is way, way stupider than I thought it was. "Nice".


The fuck is your problem man? Fanboy idiot.

? Well, that wasn't my point so I still don't know why you wanna laugh @budzos.

My point was that, if you buy "nice" enough parts (like all parts of an Apple system are "nice"), you end up with a PC that costs about the same as a Mac.

Lol @ you.


>> ^jmzero:

I was gonna list my PC specs and their costs and then realized what a waste of time that is. Just for one example my case cost $400+, not $250. It's a big giant black hunk of brushed aluminum. It's bad-ass.

Meh, if you'd finished your price list, and assuming you went about "$400 case level" on all your components, I think what you would have demonstrated is how much more PC you can get for $2500 (just as I demonstrated how you can get that same hardware for much cheaper).
And I wasn't lol'ing at you for being a Mac fanboy or something. I was laughing at the idea that there's general price parity between Macs and PCs. There just isn't.
(Again, to avoid some pedantry, that doesn't mean people shouldn't get a Mac If you will be happier on a Mac, the price premium you pay on a model like this will almost certainly pay itself over the years.)

>> ^shagen454:

I tend to believe Macs are worth the cost. I am a PC guy but working on a Mac for design is solid. Used to work on a G4 for years and never ever had a problem with it. Could open up the largest files and it would barely wink. I do the same work on a PC now with way more RAM than the G4 had and its clunky. Adobe programs are not optimized for the shitstorm that is Windows. Illustrator for PC is a serious piece of turd.
Anyway, I prefer PC because they are cheaper and more programs are available... for me to PIRATE HAHAHAHAHA


This is a good point. If the whole thing is OPTIMISED for the task you want then Apple might be the better bet if you can spare the money.

If it's just for general browsing and a bit of typing I'd go with a PC each time. I fancy an ultrabook and the astoundingly high Mac prices means an Asus Zenbook or similar makes far more sense for me. But all I'm running is some budgeting software (Windows only) and Office.

>> ^dag:

I like Macs. I have good friends who love their PCs. The reason the OS wars still rage is the same reason Korea and Japan generally don't get along.

Which one is the expensive shithole?



When you purely look at hardware the PC trounces Mac on price. There isn't really a debate there. But thats not really the whole picture. Software and the resulting user experience is really coloured by personal preference. Macs have better image, and while I don't like the idea of something selling on that alone...well designer clothes exist. People are vain, its not new.

Anyway, lets talk about 360vsPS3 now.