Fair enough, but the problem in this case is the president alone. He's stirring up opposition to the bill and the party with his tweets.

Republicans can say that the ACA was written behind closed doors and pushed through all they want, but the truth is that Obama had much to do with its passing by promoting it and talking specifics. https://www.c-span.org/video/?292260-1/white-house-health-care-summit-part-1

Obama wasn't a president that simply repeated "it's a great bill, the BEST bill" over and over. Now, granted idk why the keep your doctor/plan line was repeated, but if you have a plan that doesn't let you go to the doctor, or a hospital, or get an ambulance, can you really call it health care anymore ?

At some point they had to define what health care was to be able to assign a legal consequence.

In summation, Obama helped the ACA along with speeches and conferences and open debates where he talked actual policy.

Trump is hurting his chances of passing anything by speaking only in vagaries and insults.

Do you ever listen to yourself? Do you think Jesus would condemn healthcare? Oh, right. If you believe in Christ all will be fine and dandy. I bet you believe Jesus was white because you saw a stained glass window that proved it. Buzz off with your ignorance.

Do you know anything about the world that is not regurgitated bullshit from the most corrupt media in the world? I doubt it. Go play outside.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Doesn't seem like a "Saran Palin lite" could dismantle Obamacare and give Obama a thorough drubbing at his own health care summit:

Paul Ryan is a serious contender for VP who can more than hold his own, and picking him is very saavy as it will redirect the national conversation back to the economy and Obamas failed policies. I also feel sorry for Joe Biden when he has to meet him in debate this fall.

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Doesn't seem like a "Saran Palin lite" could dismantle Obamacare and give Obama a thorough drubbing at his own health care summit:



Paul Ryan is a serious contender for VP who can more than hold his own, and picking him is very saavy as it will redirect the national conversation back to the economy and Obamas failed policies. I also feel sorry for Joe Biden when he has to meet him in debate this fall.



>> ^VoodooV:

haha! I have to admit. I didn't catch the flub in the title. I thought it was simply a sift talking about the VP pick. Then I hear Romney introduce him as the president and I go wtf?
and now @budzos's post makes a lot more sense
I dunno though, I think everyone thought Palin was going to be the next candidate. I sure as hell didn't think Romney would come back for more.
But to think Paul is a serious VP or a serious candidate for POTUS in 2016 is a stretch. At best, he's Sarah Palin lite. He may not be the super-gaffe machine that Palin was, but his Ayn Rand worship is just as outdated and outlandish.
When Republicans lose in November, they're going to have to have some serious soul searching. Doubling down on Obama-hate got them nowhere...and it's going to cost them the election just like in 2008. When even McCain had to say enough was enough and defend Obama against the extremist nutbags, that tells you how far gone the right is. I think it's very interesting that we haven't heard a peep out of McCain this cycle. the vitriol is even worse than it was in 2008 and if he had to say enough back then, I can only imagine what he thinks of it now. I'd love to hear his opinion on the birthers.
And in all seriousness, I hope Obama takes good care of his secret service people, it wouldn't shock me in the least if there was an assassination attempt in his second term.

Ah right, had me wondering what you meant for a while there

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Hah, I think it was hilariously groan-worthy. The fail referred to your resistance of making the joke.

In reply to this comment by RedSky:
Come on, it had to be said

I'm like the first guy who starts the slow clap in corny movies, there has to be a first!

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
As fails go, that's a good one.

In reply to this comment by RedSky:
You can't spell slaughter without LAUGHTER.

I tried to resist.

I tried.

Hah, I think it was hilariously groan-worthy. The fail referred to your resistance of making the joke.

In reply to this comment by RedSky:
Come on, it had to be said

I'm like the first guy who starts the slow clap in corny movies, there has to be a first!

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
As fails go, that's a good one.

In reply to this comment by RedSky:
You can't spell slaughter without LAUGHTER.

I tried to resist.

I tried.

Come on, it had to be said

I'm like the first guy who starts the slow clap in corny movies, there has to be a first!

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
As fails go, that's a good one.

In reply to this comment by RedSky:
You can't spell slaughter without LAUGHTER.

I tried to resist.

I tried.

As fails go, that's a good one.

In reply to this comment by RedSky:
You can't spell slaughter without LAUGHTER.

I tried to resist.

I tried.