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KnivesOut (Member Profile)

Leaked Video of Romney at Fundraiser -- You're all moochers!

JiggaJonson says...

>> ^quantumushroom:

"I want everybody to experience the abundance and the greatness of this country. I want everybody to be told how to do it, not told that it can't be done, which is what Obama does. If anybody ought to be under the microscope, it's Obama. Obama's tamping down expectations. Obama's ratcheting up fear. Obama's the guy whose foreign policy is falling apart. Obama's the guy who's watching our economy disintegrate. Obama's the guy whose policies are making it tougher and tougher and tougher for excellence to matter in one's pursuit of life.
Mitt Romney hasn't done anything to anybody.
--Rush



Leaked Video of Romney at Fundraiser -- You're all moochers!

JiggaJonson says...

If you feel so strongly about it, stop paying your taxes ala' Thoreau's Walden. Thoreau went to jail because he didn't pay his taxes and got mad at Emerson when he bailed him out. Not because he didn't like his freedom, because he believed so strongly in his principles.

I personally like paying my taxes. I feel a sense of patriotism knowing my money has contributed to the whole of society, including those who are part of any welfare system and are suffering from bad tidings.

The bottom line here is that you lack the courage for your convictions. Take the license plate off of your car, cut up your social security card, and stop paying your taxes. Otherwise, you're just contributing to a system that you believe is impinging on a majority of the populace's freedoms (a hypocrite).

>> ^bobknight33:

I think the same way and I'm not rich, never been rich, and will never bee rich. But Mitt is right. There are too many people that will take advantage of the system and and become freeloaders, voting for who ever keeps the money flowing to their pockets.
The greatest enslavement is government warfare. The greatest freedom is self reliance.

Leaked Video of Romney at Fundraiser -- You're all moochers!

VoodooV says...

>> ^alcom:

I don't consider people living on < $20,000/y "entitled" or "moochers." I think Mitt needs to look in the mirror and see how his privileged life is simply unattainable by people in these circumstances. They're just getting by. By taxing the most vulnerable segment of society, he is inviting increased crime and fraud in the future. All
If he was serious about paying his "fair share" he'd disclose all those years of tax returns. And his Swiss and Cayman Island bank accounts while he's at it. He's probably avoided much more total tax revenue personally than the Reps stand to get out of that 47%.


You'll never get that kind of perspective out of Mitt. He's one of those people who believes he is one of the chosen few. He seems to honestly believe he was chosen by god. He seems to honestly believe that we all live in a vacuum and he got to where he is on his own merits alone and he had zero assistance.

These things are provably wrong. you can demonstrate that he's just like everyone else, you can demonstrate that he had help from his parents, you can demonstrate that he lives in a nation that has the government-created environment to allow people to succeed.

Mitt lost this election before he even won the primary. Even most republicans know this. They spent 4 years trying to obstruct Obama and hinder American growth just to make him a one term president and they're going to fail. So two things:

1. Obama better be awesome to his Secret Service people because I'm predicting an assassination attempt during the 2nd term.

2. What's going to be interesting to see is the 2016 election. If the rational republicans cannot reclaim their party back from the religious nutbags and the teabaggers and lose the 2016 election as well, then I'm going to say Republicans as a serious party are done. They're going to be relegated to the fringe. I still think a 2nd Civil War in our lifetimes is a serious possibility. And if Republicans are unable to persuade people with words anymore, I suspect elements will resort to other ways of persuading people. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

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Leaked Video of Romney at Fundraiser -- You're all moochers!

KnivesOut says...

"The greatest enslavement is government welfare."

By your logic 55% of corporations are enslaved to the government because they got hand-outs from the government (i.e. while all the other good corporate citizens were paying taxes, they did not.) We should free these poor, enslaved corporations by forcing them to pay their fair share of the corporate tax burden.

>> ^bobknight33:

I think the same way and I'm not rich, never been rich, and will never bee rich. But Mitt is right. There are too many people that will take advantage of the system and and become freeloaders, voting for who ever keeps the money flowing to their pockets.
The greatest enslavement is government warfare. The greatest freedom is self reliance.

>> ^Januari:
What can you really say about this guy... Romney is as he is... He's known nothing but extreme wealth his entire life... and in these private moments you really do see what he thinks of... well just about HALF the entire country who wasn't...
Amazing that a guy whos lived his entire life as a defendant can say that about tens of millions of extremely hard working people without pause.


Leaked Video of Romney at Fundraiser -- You're all moochers!

bobknight33 says...

I think the same way and I'm not rich, never been rich, and will never bee rich. But Mitt is right. There are too many people that will take advantage of the system and and become freeloaders, voting for who ever keeps the money flowing to their pockets.

The greatest enslavement is government warfare. The greatest freedom is self reliance.


>> ^Januari:

What can you really say about this guy... Romney is as he is... He's known nothing but extreme wealth his entire life... and in these private moments you really do see what he thinks of... well just about HALF the entire country who wasn't...
Amazing that a guy whos lived his entire life as a defendant can say that about tens of millions of extremely hard working people without pause.

Miners Forced To Attend Romney Rally, Don't Get Paid For The

entr0py says...

>> ^VoodooV:

would such a thing be illegal?


Indeed it us under the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971.

Corporate/labor officials or employees may direct
subordinates to plan, organize or carry out fundraising
as part of their work, using corporate/labor
organization resources, only if the corporation or
labor organization receives advance payment for the
fair market value of the services, including compensation,
benefits and overhead. However, using
coercion to urge anyone to engage in fundraising
on behalf of, or make a contribution to, a candidate or
political committee is prohibited. 114.2(f)(2)(i)(A) and
(iv). See also AO 1998-16.


http://www.fec.gov/pdf/colagui.pdf

Lets hope legal consequences are forthcoming since they were caught red handed.

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TheSluiceGate says...

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Hey buck, are you government sponsored, or do the family pay for your services?
Just interested as here in Ireland I personally know a person with an autistic son that, in the future, will likely have to quit their job to look after them once they become an adult.

In reply to this comment by Buck:
I do this for a living too!! These guys are so cool, smart and can often do amazing things that you or I can't.


AUTISM AWARENESS!!!




Hi, I work for an agency (in Ontario, Canada) that is mostly funded by the government but also has fundraisers through out the year. I love where I work, they really care about their staff and in turn the staff care about the individuals we support...really a great place.

Now the sucky thing is the Gov. just changed the way and length of support for all new clients. Much shorter support times and long wait lists.

I work in the community side of things and try to get the guys out and about doing whatever they like to do. There is also a residential side to my agency that is a bit different in function but essentially they are group homes where staff help the clients live daily.

Another avenue is private respite, our gov. gives a bit of money to familys that need this break, and they hire someone they like to work with their child.

Ageing parents are a problem too, we have wait lists years long for group homes.

I have a co worker with a son just diagnosed...she may have to quite her job too, but the school system here is slowly helping more than hindering things so there would be daytime breaks for her, only till her child is 21 then he is on his own as it were, thats where agencys and private individuals like my agency come into play helping them find jobs or volunteer positions in the community.

everyone deserves a chance to live to their fullest potential, we try to help with that.

any questions fire away.


Hey thanks for reply - in many ways not to dis-similar to Ireland: yeah your kind of fucked as an autistic person when you leave school (on the lower functioning end of the spectrum anyway) and daycare and respite are pretty rare commodities here too, unless you've got serious money to put up.

Keep up the good work!

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Buck says...

In reply to this comment by TheSluiceGate:
Hey buck, are you government sponsored, or do the family pay for your services?
Just interested as here in Ireland I personally know a person with an autistic son that, in the future, will likely have to quit their job to look after them once they become an adult.

In reply to this comment by Buck:
I do this for a living too!! These guys are so cool, smart and can often do amazing things that you or I can't.


AUTISM AWARENESS!!!




Hi, I work for an agency (in Ontario, Canada) that is mostly funded by the government but also has fundraisers through out the year. I love where I work, they really care about their staff and in turn the staff care about the individuals we support...really a great place.

Now the sucky thing is the Gov. just changed the way and length of support for all new clients. Much shorter support times and long wait lists.

I work in the community side of things and try to get the guys out and about doing whatever they like to do. There is also a residential side to my agency that is a bit different in function but essentially they are group homes where staff help the clients live daily.

Another avenue is private respite, our gov. gives a bit of money to familys that need this break, and they hire someone they like to work with their child.

Ageing parents are a problem too, we have wait lists years long for group homes.

I have a co worker with a son just diagnosed...she may have to quite her job too, but the school system here is slowly helping more than hindering things so there would be daytime breaks for her, only till her child is 21 then he is on his own as it were, thats where agencys and private individuals like my agency come into play helping them find jobs or volunteer positions in the community.

everyone deserves a chance to live to their fullest potential, we try to help with that.

any questions fire away.



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