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Woman kicked off flight for not wearing a mask

cloudballoon says...

Boarding as late as possible makes sense. The problem is finding carry on overhead storage if you need them.

Lowest risk seat selection-wise and I'm afraid the longer the flight, the increased chance of the wider spread of the virus will negates the advantage initially gained.

The air filtration system is not in question, problem is the people breathing right next to and all around you during the entire flight. Their air doesn't go through the filtration system yet. When people going in/out (myself included) for the washroom, they act as the "spoon" when stir your drink: they mixes the air around as they walk to spread virus/germs out along their paths.

SFOGuy said:

The surfaces--and the bathrooms in particular---totally true. The air? Can be an issue (there are studies)--but the filtration systems themselves are excellent. HEPA 99.7%. There are seating tricks; sit either first row economy ("Economy Plus") or last row of first class. Select the window seat and try to put your companion next to you or---fly an airline with empty seat policies (e.g. JetBlue). Don't rush to get on (although they are mostly now loading back to front anyway)--get on as reasonable late as you can--that way, all those people aren't walking by you exhaling on you.

The reason for the first row economy or last row first is: you don't want people walking by you all flight on the way to the bathrooms; you want to be the person walking by THEM (selfish but...); and the same with the window seating and the last-reasonable minute boarding.

Also, I carry a two zip locks on at the top of my carry on bag; one has three disposable gloves, Clorox or equivalent wipes, and Purell or equiv. etc. Move into seat out of aisle, then with gloves on, wipe down the latch to the overhead (you're going to touch it twice) and then every surface from the aisle to window that you touch---armrests, seat back display, seat back display surface, bulkhead, window shade, tray table locks, tray table both surfaces and edges, buckle, tang, seat controls, audio controls---no point to seat fabric--then roll the glove inside out with the wipes inside and put into the empty ZIploc as a trash bag. Usually two wipes does the job. Purell hands and settle in.

Been doing this since before the pandemic because I totally agree with you.

Airplane bathrooms are all about not touching surfaces with clean hands after you've cleaned them...they are staggeringly filthy. Infectious disease experts have been known to gag in horror at what gets swabbed from the sink handles, toilet flush, and door lock/handle lol. Paper towel is your friend--as our your forearms and elbows.

Woman kicked off flight for not wearing a mask

SFOGuy says...

The surfaces--and the bathrooms in particular---totally true. The air? Can be an issue (there are studies)--but the filtration systems themselves are excellent. HEPA 99.7%. There are seating tricks; sit either first row economy ("Economy Plus") or last row of first class. Select the window seat and try to put your companion next to you or---fly an airline with empty seat policies (e.g. JetBlue). Don't rush to get on (although they are mostly now loading back to front anyway)--get on as reasonable late as you can--that way, all those people aren't walking by you exhaling on you.

The reason for the first row economy or last row first is: you don't want people walking by you all flight on the way to the bathrooms; you want to be the person walking by THEM (selfish but...); and the same with the window seating and the last-reasonable minute boarding.

Also, I carry a two zip locks on at the top of my carry on bag; one has three disposable gloves, Clorox or equivalent wipes, and Purell or equiv. etc. Move into seat out of aisle, then with gloves on, wipe down the latch to the overhead (you're going to touch it twice) and then every surface from the aisle to window that you touch---armrests, seat back display, seat back display surface, bulkhead, window shade, tray table locks, tray table both surfaces and edges, buckle, tang, seat controls, audio controls---no point to seat fabric--then roll the glove inside out with the wipes inside and put into the empty ZIploc as a trash bag. Usually two wipes does the job. Purell hands and settle in.

Been doing this since before the pandemic because I totally agree with you.

Airplane bathrooms are all about not touching surfaces with clean hands after you've cleaned them...they are staggeringly filthy. Infectious disease experts have been known to gag in horror at what gets swabbed from the sink handles, toilet flush, and door lock/handle lol. Paper towel is your friend--as our your forearms and elbows.

cloudballoon said:

...Airplane interior are nasty anyway at the best of times. Germs & virus on the surface and recycled air environment. Mask should just be mandated. "

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The Brilliant Earth Diamond Scam

MilkmanDan says...

Lawsuit for false advertising?

Overall, this seems rather analogous to bottled water. Penn and Teller did a brilliant "Bullshit" episode about bottled water back in the day. It got sifted, but is now dead. The entire episode (first half is about feng shui, second half about water) is available on vimeo, though:
https://vimeo.com/193125042

Long story short, most bottled water presents itself as coming from a mountain spring, or glacier, or whatever. But in reality, the vast majority is simply municipal water from whatever city the packaging plant is in, usually not going through any additional filtration or purification at all.

At least with water, it is possible to test for contaminants. Diamonds can be graded / assayed to certify some basic characteristics, but of course there is no straightforward way to track their history and know where they came from, etc. At least, not short of having a paper trail tracing it back to the place and time that it was mined, which could easily be faked.

Bottled water gets away with promoting an "image" of being sourced from mountain springs or whatever by never actually claiming that it is in a legal sense. Usually there is fine print available noting the location that the water came from / was packaged. This diamond company seems to go beyond that and to make claims about their diamonds that are impossible to actually prove. Hopefully they get nailed/shut down.

Ultra-Pure Water Tastes Like Nothing And Can Kill You

chingalera says...

...by a factor of about 4-6 or more additional water-tweaking processes (electrodialysis, reverse-osmosis, carbon filtration, etc). They probably start the process with some insane, lab-monkey distillation...Betcha this stuff is great for washing-out wounds, eh?? Be nice to have a bottle or two for the bug-out bag...

How is this video is in the top 15 is the real mystery (congrats, esoog)

StukaFox said:

So how is this different from distilled water?

Glass How-to: Getting Started

MilkmanDan says...

I'm not too concerned about the privacy implications:

1) Don't use your real google account; make a new one with no "friends", false name and other data. I'm sure this removes some of the "features", but probably nothing you can't live without if you're concerned about privacy issues. In the meantime, feel good about yourself for "stickin' it to the man" and making google's advertising database think that all of your browsing history/etc. is being done by a 93-year-old woman from Abu Dhabhi named "Beverly Knickerbocker".

2) If you're extremely concerned about google knowing what you're looking at 24/7 because of the camera on the device, I'd be happy to sell you a small piece of electrical tape "digital privacy filtration screen 2.0" for the low-low price of $10.

*edit* -- I don't want one of these things myself, but I'm not vehemently opposed to their existence. With some sort of firmware update that puts a configurable open-source "OS" on them that allows you to control exactly what comes in and what goes out, might be more interesting. But in the meantime, it isn't privacy concerns (or even worrying about looking like a dork -- totally lost cause there) that make Glass a non-sale to me. It's simply that I don't think I'd get much positive use out of them, particularly compared to cost.

*further edit* That was a fun rant you linked to @dag. I think he needs to relax a little. Or maybe just get out ... less? When you see pretentious douchebags everywhere, maybe the solution is staying home?

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Air Force Pilots blow whistle on F-22 Raptor

Porksandwich says...

Suffocatingly-nest.

Personally I'd suspect the hell out of that air filtration system....that it's picking up something at the higher altitudes that it's not able to deal with and creates the wrong mixture and pumps it to the pilots or flat out doesn't filter for whatever it's picking up.

If you've ever driven a vehicle with a leaky exhaust, you'll notice you feel fine for a long time and then suddenly you just kind of wake up and go...something is wrong. Roll down the window and feel almost instantly better and more clear headed even when it's crazy hot or cold out because the air is not contaminated.

Event plays Borat parody as Kazakhstan national anthem

Duckman33 says...

Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.
All other countries are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium.
Other countries have inferior potassium.

Kazakhstan home of Tinshein swimming pool.
It’s length thirty meter and width six meter.
Filtration system a marvel to behold.
It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.

Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown.
Kazakhstan friend of all except Uzbekistan.
They very nosey people with bone in their brain.

Kazakhstan industry best in the world.
We incented toffee and trouser belt.
Kazakhstan’s prostitutes cleanest in the region.
Except of course Turkmenistan’s

Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown.
Come grasp the might phenis of our leader.
From junction with the testes to tip of its face!

Wild Swimming -- introducing "natural" swimming pools

MilkmanDan says...

I have outdoor koi ponds, and I'm into the fish-keeping hobby with aquariums also. With the right ecological setup and filtration/circulation system, I think this would make a great visual element / water garden area for a home, plus providing a swimming area that is cleaner and clearer than your average pond/lake.

If you're squeamish about swimming in a lake or pond, consider that your average public pool is saturated with chlorine/bromine and kid-piss... Pick your poison.

FRACKING 101

spawnflagger says...

>> ^cybrbeast:

>> ^peggedbea:
I also live on top of natural gas shale. It's happening in my town too.
http://texasvox.org/2010/12/08/flammable-water-in-homes-west-of-for
t-worth/

Maybe your utilities should take measures? I'm sure it's not too difficult to degas the water before piping it into the municipal water grid.


Rural pennsylvania does not have a municipal water grid. Each home, farm, or development has it's own wells which pump water up from deep underground. So the only way that gas companies could do it is to install a water filtration system in every home.

I agree that this type of rural water wells have always had methane problems, but the guy who lights his water on fire and has the lawsuit - I'm sure he didn't have nearly as many problems before granting the gas drilling rights.

Octopus Eggs Hatching - Mother's Ultimate Sacrifice

honkeytonk73 says...

With a ~0.00004% birth survival rate, Noah must have stuck far more than 2 of them into the Ark to help ensure their survival. Because with the huge volume of rain required to cover all landmass completely, the diluted ocean would certainly have caused salt water critters, as well as freshwater critters (due to ocean mixing), to perish. I'm glad Noah took such things into consideration. Otherwise certainly they would have become extinct. Just like the dinosaurs at the same time. I would have loved to see the giant aquarium Noah built in the ark. For certainly he mastered the art of keeping sea creatures alive before the invention of protein skimming (foam fractionation), filtration, and general understanding of chemistry required to maintain appropriate marine conditions within the GLORIOUS ship that the Ark was. Absolutely amazing that he, alone, was able to do ALL that for all the millions of unique species spread worldwide. Even then. The amazing effort it must have took to repopulate the planet after the ark came to rest on Mt Ararat. Fascinating. Even today with all of our technology and know-how. Such a feat would have been impossible. Noah. You da man!

The myth of drinking eight glasses of water a day

Tymbrwulf says...

This is pretty much as simply as I could put everything, it's a long relatively disorganized post so be prepared:

>> ^blutruth:

Also, I'm not a doctor, just some guy with access to a search engine, so don't take my word for it.


Thanks blutruth for looking into these kinds of claims instead of just watching videos as fact like most people do. I, on the other hand, AM in the medical field, and slightly disagree with this video.

>> ^cybrbeast:

Thanks for sources blutruth. But I have a problem with your simple in/out calcualtion. If you drink less there is also less to come out. I.e. if you drink a lot you will pee a lot and your pee will be colorless. If you drink less water you pee much less, but it will become ever more yellow/brown. The big question is at what color is your pee showing you, you drink too little.
There is a lot of range in the insensible water loss, which as stated in the clip means you don't have to drink much if you don't do much physical activity.


cybrbeast you are simplifying your argument too much. The simple in/out calculation is exactly that, simple. The information backing it has to do with body self-regulation with Urine/Plasma Osmolality tied to with Glomerular Filtration Rate, reabsorption of relevant electrolytes, and hormones controlling these functions. After studying the method of how a body detects it's own fluid level(effective circulating volume, also blood pressure), and working out how each system in it's own produces an effect on either water loss/retention, we worked out the approximate numbers of a person's water requirements. We even have a formula to check a person's current water deficit:

Water Deficit = 0.4 x Lean Body Weight x (plasma [Na]/140 -1)
(Renal Pathophysiology: The Essentials by Rennke/Denker pg. 90)(http://www.amazon.com/Renal-Pathophysiology-Essentials-Helmut-Rennke/dp/0781796261/)

The best way to answer your second question is about pee color, is to look at urine osmolalities. Urine osmolality can range from 50-100 mOsm/kg to 1000-1400 mOsm/kg(same renal book, page 206). The lower the osmolality, the more concentrated your urine is(and the more yellow it is) and the more water your body is retaining. There is no "perfect pee," from what I have learned, only a pretty relaxed range which anyone with access to fluids can maintain. If you want a specific color or osmolality you won't find one.

You are right when it comes to the large range of the insensible water loss, but you would be surprised what would make you lose that water and how much of it. Unfortunately I don't have time to look up the exact numbers of insensible water loss, but off the top of my head I can list physical activity (through sweating), breathing, environment with low humidity or high temperature. These little things can all add up to water loss.

Also stimulants like amphetamines, methamphetamines, caffeine, and depressants such as alcohol can lead to increased water loss.

What I'll also add to this is that it isn't only water that you lose throughout the day, but also electrolytes that need replacing through food and other sources. Drinking something such as distilled water will not do you any good, some of the best things to drink are isotonic solutions and juices that have many other nutrients and not just water that keep you going. Thanks for your time.

The Story of Bottled Water

jwray says...

1. Claim: 40% of bottled water is taken from municipal tap water
-- What they don't mention is that there are additional steps in the process after they get the tap water, such as reverse osmosis, which is usually listed on the label (and I'm certain that lying about it on the label is illegal). Reverse osmosis is more effective than the almost-nothing that is done to remove agricultural runoff contaminants and such from tap water. Aquafina is basically the same water that coca-cola puts into their sodas, and the reason it's subjected to an additional reverse osmosis step is to standardize the taste. Some local tap water is nasty.

2. X% of bottled water tested above the strictest health guidelines (but not the legal limit) for one or more chemicals.
So does the tap water in the vast majority of zipcodes. Check your own zipcode in that website.

3. Bottled water is less regulated: This is true, unfortunately. There should be stricter standards for contaminants in bottled water. There should be stricter standards for contaminants in tap water as well. Tap water is purified by crude filtration that is effective at removing sewage and particles larger than a micron, but ineffective at removing most dissolved contaminants.

If you buy distilled water in large quantities it's like fifty cents a gallon, which is not bad. That also wastes an order of magnitude less packaging material per pint of water.

Would you be in favor of an Expanded Sift?* (User Poll by dag)

Farhad2000 says...

The site is already complex enough to not be flooded with filtration systems and other content.

Why can't we just refine the system more? More Flash tutorials about submitting that you had earlier. Bringing up more vids that were posted a couple of years ago.



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