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I Left Her: HER REACTiON

Canada's new anti-transphobia bill

dannym3141 says...

Sounds like an exercising in rearranging the furniture on the Titanic to me.

In a world where discrimination and separatism is qualitatively and quantitatively on the rise, people in charge must be ecstatic that they can appease people without having to do anything meaningful that might piss off the extremists on the right, or "shareholders". And people are so used to being told that change is only possible through incremental adjustments that they'll eat it up like candy and think this is progress.

"People people people, if you're going to call someone a filthy tranny and throw fast food at xem on public transport, at least use the proper pronoun when you verbally abuse xem."

When there's a hole in the boat and you're taking on water, the least of your concerns should be about what language you use to describe the in-rushing water or shape of the hole, nor arguing over the colour of the material you use to repair it.

I'm sure some people will see this as a victory. Until next time they apply for a job and not get hired due to transphobia. And the manager of the company, with a gleam in their eye, begins the rejection letter with 'Dear bun/bunself', then sniggers to themselves and says "fucking trannies."

What I'm trying to say was summed nicely in a tweet i saw the other day:
ALTRIGHT/NEO NAZI: your all going to the gas chambers!!!
NEOLIBERAL: you're*

If this is the extent of what activism is able to achieve, i should say that the establishment/elite have won by pacifying and declawing the protesters. It's no longer about breaking the shackles of oppression. We can't go around breaking shackles everywhere - think of the effect on the economy? And what about people getting hit by shrapnel? No, instead the LGBTQ community will be given multi coloured chains, the black community will be given slightly longer chains, and we'll pad the shackles with silk so that everyone is much more comfortable. Don't complain about the concept of being chained, instead complain that your chain is not as nice as the next guy's chain.

It's as though the great struggle of protest and civil disobedience has been taken over by the liberal intelligentsia, and the worst kind of discrimination faced by a 20 year old middle-class university student with rainbow coloured dreadlocks and a nose piercing is the letter they receive about their student loan that begins "dear sir/madam". So they go out and march about it and think they've made progress when they get their own pronoun. In their life, in their experiences, they are treated equally in other respects, so they think they ARE fighting inequality.

But for the working class male or female transsexual who gets filthy looks and a seat isolated by themselves on public transport, to travel to their entry level job where they've been skipped over for promotion for not looking the part, or getting the right level of respect from the trans-phobic staff, getting snide whispered comments from customers about the size of their hands, getting abuse yelled at them as they travel to have a night out at the ONLY trans-friendly bar within a 20 mile radius....... I get the feeling that receiving a letter with the correct pronoun isn't exactly going to change their fucking lives.

To remove a weed, you go for the roots. Some wanker calling you him/her when you prefer bun/bunself is not the root of this problem. The problem is that they are trans-phobic, not the language - which is just the tool they use to discriminate against you. To change the language and think that you've won is a bit like redefining room temperature and claiming you've warmed everybody by a few degrees.

If you march for equal rights, fair pay, fair treatment then people are going to see that and join your protest because they also want those things. Those things will solve the problems faced by the trans community, feminists, masculinists, minorities alike! And through common goals and by supporting each other en masse for simple, unified goals like EQUALITY, progress will be made, change will happen. It is a concept called solidarity and seems to be going out of fashion, but our grandparents knew.

The objective for the establishment is to drive a wedge between groups of people so that their demands are more manageable, and they can be turned on each other. Feminists, masculinists, LGBT, everyone... can't you see how better off you'd be marching together for common values that lie at the core of what every human wants?

Wall of text, sorry... and I know it looks like i'm being insensitive. So congratulations, genuinely, for getting someone to use your preferred pronoun if that makes you feel better. But whilst people have been fighting tooth and nail to get their own pronoun (in civilised settings only), we've suffered huge leaps backwards in freedom and tolerance behind their backs whilst they were bent over intently concentrating on the finer detail of what their ideal equality looks like.

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dannym3141 says...

If you think the outrage expressed here is floundering and forced, you should imagine how we feel about your impotent, condescending reaction to our outrage. Please double check all harnesses and straps for safety before you parachute down from your own high horse. A horse so high your dismount could be sponsored by red bull.

What's funny is that you think being annoyed by Dreadlock Hitler is pathetic, but you're annoyed because the target looks like someone you don't like and listens to music you don't enjoy. I guess that's just fine, but we should all grow up!

Imagoamin said:

He sure looks and sounds like every burn out at a phish concert I've ever known. Just a very annoying type of dude, in my experience.

But whatever, not like I feel like he needs to be "taught a lesson" or needs a "head check", like the floundering outrage in these comments.

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00Scud00 says...

I don't think he really has a point. About all I got out of what he said was, he thinks white people with dreadlocks are "Lame", this guy reminds him of someone he doesn't like, and discussing this means we're all outraged, and floundering.
All of it is just his opinion and has nothing to do with what most people here were talking about.

enoch said:

@Imagoamin
i was just trying to see your point mate,nor am i outraged or looking for an opening to "give ya some of that fancy learnin".

you replied,and i appreciate that.
soooo.......thanks mate!

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Imagoamin says...

Yeah, white people with dreadlocks are still lame.

And I think they're both annoying, but they're college kids in an argument. This isn't some righteous "We must teach this woman a lesson for getting in an argument at college" situation.

This is the most overblown outrage over something that happens all the time and is minor. But hey, hope there's a nice view on your high horse.

eric3579 said:

The way one choose to wear their hair is not lame. Judging others for the way they choose to wear their hair is SUPER lame.

I find it funny you think the guy minding his own business is obnoxious, but have nothing to say about the fuck that accosted him with her cultural appropriation nonsense(imo).

I do feel kinda sorry for her as she's probably gonna take an overwhelming amount of heat for her behavior. Guessing it will be a harsh lesson learned.

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dannym3141 says...

It's a bullshit term but i think it's just a sign of the times. There have always been moronic fads that gained traction with a certain type of person. Only now we exist in a time when these imbeciles are on the net broadcasting their gullibility and enthusiasm for buzz topics. Which means more people (and internationally) jump on the bandwagon and before you know it you have entire communities of insular, fact-resistant cliques (*cough*Tumblr*cough*), confirming each other's opinions in the perfect echo chamber.

It's as though they overhear a decent point about something, it gains popularity with others and they get a bit carried away in the furor of it all and black out. The next thing they remember is physically attacking and harassing some poor dude with dreadlocks, laughing at his discomfort and attacking someone peacefully filming it. Does she realise she was bullying someone? Is she laughing because she knows he's male and therefore can't physically defend himself from a female, allowing her to shove and grab him with impunity?

Exactly whose rights are being trampled on here? What kind of equality is she and her sidekick promoting?

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SDGundamX says...

This is shocking to me. I've been to the SFSU campus many, many times for work-related reasons and I even audited some classes there while attending a different school. The student population was incredibly diverse and pro-inclusive of pretty much everyone at the time. There was, in fact, a white girl with dreadlocks in one of my classes and no one batted an eyelash.

I mean, their student union is called Cesar Chavez Student Center and the main entrance to it is through Malcom X Plaza for chrissake. It's kind of unimaginable to me that something like this would take place there.

EDIT: missing letter

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