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jonny (Member Profile)

Movie Review: No Country For Old Men (Blog Entry by smibbo)

MINK says...

if the idea that one day you will be reunited with your dead relatives is depressing for you, then gee whiz, i don't know what to say. falls flat? has holes? did we watch the same movie?

haven't you noticed how in Coen movies, the greedy assholes suffer? That's depressing?? You want a "real" cowboy movie where one of the brutal murderers wears a white hat and everyone cheers him on?

you want more story? shit, like what? he flies to cuba with his girl, and they feel guilty about the blood money, so they start an orphanage and then it catches fire so they live in the jungle and then his dead mother is found alive in some village and then russia drops the bomb on NYC and a civil war starts in cuba, in which his previously dead mother fights and dies for the communists, while he is torn between a life of crime and patriotic service to his adopted home, and his girl gets raped and becomes pregnant and the baby joins the resistance movement and ends up killing his father by accident? i mean... more story???? seriously?

jonny (Member Profile)

smibbo says...

Actually, I love Blood Simple and Fargo. Miller's Crossing - not so much.

I ADORE Jim Jarmusch!! The difference? His movies may not have "meaning" either, but they do not set up intense emotional interplay that makes me NEED "meaning". His movies are thematic and I am fine with that, because he doesn't pretend otherwise and doesn't lead me to believe otherwise. And he's funny no matter what. I think he does "subtle" humor better than Coen Bros do. When they TRY to be funny they are hilarious. When they try to be subtle, it usually ticks me off. Go figure.

In reply to this comment by jonny:
Smibbo, if you want a non-funny, Coen brothers like movie, I recommend Jim Jarmusch.

dystopianfuturetoday (Member Profile)

smibbo says...

and actually, NCFOM held me and Soupskin's attention the entire time. Believe me, we were RIVETTED by it. So much so that the credits had been rolling a while before we fully took in that it was over.

What I did miss, and I think this is bad direction/production is that Moss was dead. The camera showed it for all of a second (maybe) and I was supposed to deduce that fact from his clothes, being as he was one more body lying on the floor covered in blood?
I'm not stupid by any means, I'm not inattentive - especially during that movie - but I am nearsighted slightly and I COMPLETELY missed that Moss was dead. Thus perhaps the ending missed the mark for me a bit. I didn't know Carla Jean was a widow when she made her statment. She mentioned her mother dying and that was it. That's some crappy acting/direction right there. I "get" subtlty. I'm probably the only person in the whole bible belt who "got" "Jacob's Ladder" and rolled my eyes at how overdone the ending was (still in my top five of movies) so it's not that I "missed" the meaning. I just feel that the ending was not meaningful (as was the whole movie) it was thematic

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
-------Spoilers-------

NCFOM does have quite a bit of humor in it and isn't nearly as dark or gloomy as se7en. It plays as a tight little thriller for 2/3rds and then turns very real, which is a nice twist you don't see coming.

If you like Coen films like Blood Simple or Fargo, then this one shouldn't be a problem.

The meaning of the film is in the title, and this revelation is tossed at you very softly minutes before the abrupt end of the film, so don't blink or go to the bathroom.

------MAJOR SPOILER-------

The scary dude DOES get called on his pseudo masculine fatalist bullshit by the wife just before she is killed. She tells him that he is the one who makes the decision to murder, not coins or games. His mojo is thrown off, which results in a nasty car accident. I personally assume that the character recovers to kill again, but with out the glee and games of the past. In keeping with the title, I believe he becomes an old man in that scene, just like TLJ in the last hotel scene.

There is plenty of meaning in the film if you want to find it.

IMO, this is one of the best films of the year. It held my complete attention up until the very last scene, which I missed because I went to the bathroom.

Movie Review: No Country For Old Men (Blog Entry by smibbo)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

-------Spoilers-------

NCFOM does have quite a bit of humor in it and isn't nearly as dark or gloomy as se7en. It plays as a tight little thriller for 2/3rds and then turns very real, which is a nice twist you don't see coming.

If you like Coen films like Blood Simple or Fargo, then this one shouldn't be a problem.

The meaning of the film is in the title, and this revelation is tossed at you very softly minutes before the abrupt end of the film, so don't blink or go to the bathroom.

------MAJOR SPOILER-------

The scary dude DOES get called on his pseudo masculine fatalist bullshit by the wife just before she is killed. She tells him that he is the one who makes the decision to murder, not coins or games. His mojo is thrown off, which results in a nasty car accident. I personally assume that the character recovers to kill again, but with out the glee and games of the past. In keeping with the title, I believe he becomes an old man in that scene, just like TLJ in the last hotel scene.

There is plenty of meaning in the film if you want to find it.

IMO, this is one of the best films of the year. It held my complete attention up until the very last scene, which I missed because I went to the bathroom.

Movie Review: No Country For Old Men (Blog Entry by smibbo)

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No Country For Old Men - trailer - Coen Brothers

Blood Simple Trailer

No Country For Old Men - Coin Toss Scene

No Country For Old Men? (Cinema Talk Post)

dotdude says...

I went. I saw. I posted.

What can I say . . . the Coen brothers have done a great job with this film. There are some new unusual characters to add to our favorites. There are new lines to quote.

Killer thief Anton Chigurh has an eccentric way of killing folks as he traces down someone who's stolen money from a bad drug deal. He's always stealing new vehicles to travel around.

Lately I've been partial to films with no music during the film. Well this film follows that recent trend. Instead the film contains all kinds of natural sounds.

I love the way the Coen brothers pay attention to details in their films.

No Country For Old Men? (Cinema Talk Post)

Oh brother where art thou - The Soggy Bottom boys

Kurt Vonnegut Documentary

choggie says...

man thanks for linking those, this was a great docu-bio of sorts......Go rent "Breakfast of Champions" Bruce Willis is Dwayne Hoover....cast of greats, Nick Nolte, Barbara Hershey....and Wayne Hoobler is portrayed by...Omar Epps

Vonnegut Novels Adapted For Screen
2005 The American Ruling Class
1999 Breakfast of Champions
1996 Mother Night
1995 Harrison Bergeron
1991 Kurt Vonnegut's Monkey House
1986 Back to School
1985 D.P.
1982 Slapstick of Another Kind
1982 Who Am I This Time?
1972 Slaughterhouse Five
1971 Happy Birthday, Wanda June
Trials of Franz Kafka-(YEAR?)

they need to do "Cat's Cradle.....CGI would do it justice..oh and yessss, "Sirens of Titan"

Where are the Coen brothers when ya need em???





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