Yeah that's what I came to realize when I thought about it more. But what is also strange for me is that Cline can write a best selling book where he references all these things and not get sued for it.

But you can't make the movie without having to pay everyone for the use of their respective properties, being a movie about cultural references you'd think that there would be an argument for fair use in there somewhere. But I suppose it really comes down to the use of the images I guess.

The video really reminds me of Zach Lightman, the main character in Ernest Cline's book Armada. Although in that book Zach only knew his father from the music and games his dad left behind.

I prefer the earlier PMJ version of this, because Kate Davis has a beautiful Patsy-Cline-ish-country-soul voice that works well with this particular arrangement (and she plays the bass) but this is still excellent. And I will be at their London gig this Sunday!

Awesome film, awesome music

It's worth noting that this version of the song is by Stephen Malkmus (from Pavement) & The Million Dollar Bashers (featuring Sonic Youth members Lee Ranaldo and Steve Shelley, Wilco guitarist Nels Cline, Television guitarist Tom Verlaine, Dylan bassist Tony Garnier, guitarist Smokey Hormel and keyboardist John Medeski)

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Cue Patsy Cline.

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1. Mr. Bungle - California
2. Radiohead - The Bends
3. Beck - Mellow Gold
4. Beatles - White Album
5. Bjork - Homogenic
6. Stereolab - Sound Dust
7. Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy
8. Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Amen
9. Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
10. Stevie Wonder - Greatest Hits
11. EWF - Greatest Hits
12. Steve Reich - Sextet
13. Stravinsky - Rite of Spring
14. Portishead - Portishead
15. The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs
16. Depeche Mode - Violator
17. Rufus Wainwright - Poses
18. Prince - Greatest Hits
19. Secret Chiefs - Book M
20. Andrew Bird - Armchair Apocrypha
21. Brian Eno - Ambient 1
22. Boards of Canada - Music Has The Right To Children
23. Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
24. Ennio Morricone - Once Upon A Time In The West
25. Arcade Fire - Funeral
26. Autolux - Future Perfect
27. Miles Davis/Gil Evans - Porgy and Bess
28. John Coltrane - Blue Train
29. Bob Marley - Legend
30. Chet Baker - Best of Chet Baker Sings
31. Mose Allison - Allison Wonderland
32. Failure - Fantastic Planet
33. MSI - You'll Rebel To Anything....
34. Faith No More - Angel Dust
35. Fiona Apple - When the Pawn...
36. Fishbone - Truth and Soul
37. Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
38. Foetus - Gash
39. Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters
40. Nirvana - Nevermind
40.1. Frank Sinatra - Greatest Hits
40.2. Frank Zappa -
40.3. Jellyfish - Spilt Milk
40.4. M.I.A. - Kala
40.5. Me'Shell Ndegeocello - Cookie
40.6. Michael Brecker - Michael Brecker
40.7. Miles Davis - All Blues
40.8. Patsy Cline - Greatest Hits (token country)
40.9. Philip Glass - Glassworks
40.91. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
40.92. Bernard Herrmann - The Day The Earth Stood Still

Definitely pedophile, creepy as it was meant to be/look.
But banned by who?

I definitely don't know what they are trying to prove by these commercials though, They sure don't make a person attracted to the product, if anything, they would repulse/creep out the consumer more than anything. There is nothing that would make me want to go out and buy the product. If anything, I would root through my closet and throw out anything that said Calvin Cline and garbage it so I wouldn't be associated to this kind of creepyness and bad taste.
This commercial is definitely "Not Cool"!

Where do you find all this neat stuff?

Snoozedoctoring is a great job, I wouldn't trade it for anything that I'm otherwise capable of. How's that for a qualifier?

Although you probably won't find any video, kd lang's first "Angel With a Lariat" is high energy cow-punk. Her "Shadowland" disc was produced and arranged by Owen Bradley, Patsy Cline's arranger. It has some soaring moments.

Keep finding that obscure stuff. It's great.


"Yea i found that out reading the wiki, made me interested in looking for Lang's earlier stuff.

Mind checking this out? http://www.videosift.com/video/Hotel-Ngyuen6805
and this http://www.videosift.com/video/60s-Girls, I think you might like it.

Oh and my dad is a snoozedoctor as well"

With your wealth of music info, you're probably aware, but kd lang, early in her career thought she was channeling Patsy. Thus, kd lang and the "reclines", her early band.

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
Patsy Cline (b. Virginia Patterson Hensley September 8, 1932 – March 5, 1963) was an American country music singer, who enjoyed pop music crossover success during the era of the Nashville Sound in the early 1960s. Since her death at the age of 30 in a 1963 plane crash at the height of her career, she has been considered one of the most influential, successful, revered, and acclaimed female vocalists of the 20th century. Her life and career has been the subject of numerous books, movies, documentaries, articles, and stage plays.

Cline was best known for her rich tone and emotionally expressive voice, which, along with her role as a mover and shaker in the country music industry, has been cited and praised as an inspiration by many vocalists of various music genres.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patsy_Cline

Patsy Cline (b. Virginia Patterson Hensley September 8, 1932 – March 5, 1963) was an American country music singer, who enjoyed pop music crossover success during the era of the Nashville Sound in the early 1960s. Since her death at the age of 30 in a 1963 plane crash at the height of her career, she has been considered one of the most influential, successful, revered, and acclaimed female vocalists of the 20th century. Her life and career has been the subject of numerous books, movies, documentaries, articles, and stage plays.

Cline was best known for her rich tone and emotionally expressive voice, which, along with her role as a mover and shaker in the country music industry, has been cited and praised as an inspiration by many vocalists of various music genres.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patsy_Cline

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Yes, just came out. Does a great version of "new york, new york" and a good dylan cover. Some Patsy Cline. I don't know if it's one of the first two you have, but she has an earlier covers album too. It's incredibly awesome but a friend of mine saw it in my car and said "you don't listen to that, do you? It's too sad".

SG,

You've misunderstood. Your criteria for disliking something may be rational or irrational. Disliking something doesn't make you irrational.

On Country

You don't like 'modern' country, but you do like country, which means you haven't written off an entire genre of music (I'm not judging, it's just an observation).

I happen to agree with you on country, but there is some decent stuff out there if you look for it. If you don't already know Abigail Washburn, then she is soon to be one of your favorites. Other acts to look for are Old Crow Medicine Show, Wilco and Nickel Creek. None of it but the AW stuff really stack up to Patsy Cline or Johnny Cash, but it's a helluva lot better than the drivel on the radio.

In general, music on commercial radio is horrible.

Jazz and Hip-Hop

Jazz and Hip-hop are actually more similar than you think.

-They both use the same types of rhythmic syncopations. This point is made clearly by an excellent mashup of an Eminem song and an old piano rag. The track is called 'Snookered' by a DJ named Freelance Hairdresser. You can follow these syncopations from ragtime to Dixie Jazz, to Swing, Rock, Bop, Soul, Funk, and eventually Hip-Hop.

-The co-opting of popular tunes is also shared between the two genres. Rappers are much maligned for their use of samples and get little credit for the creative ways in which they reconstruct the source material. Jazzer's would also co-opt the popular standards of the day, tweaking the harmonies/ melodies and adding their own improvisational ideas.

-Both types of music place a large emphasis on improvisation. In Hip-Hop it's called freestyle.

-Like Hip-Hop, Jazz was an outlet for a culture largely shut out of the mainstream. Both styles of music were marginalized, maligned and generally considered lewd, crude and disgusting.

-Jazz was eventually co-opted and accepted by whites, which is happening as we speak in the hip hop world. This isn't a bad thing, as white folks had/have some nice things to add.

Finally, I must say that your characterization of Hip-hop as negative is as bad a generalization as saying all Christians are as lame as Pat Robertson. There is plenty of positive Hip-Hop out there. I'd suggest MeShell Ndegeocello, Eryka Badhu, Outkast and M.I.A. for starters.

The media spends much time attacking Hip-Hip, and buying into media distortions don't make you a racist.

The racism I speak of is subtle and internalized. If you were to recognize this racism in yourself, it would evaporate instantly upon recognition. I'm not trying to brand anyone with a scarlet R, this is just a plea for folks to be introspective and constantly in a state of self improvement.

We are all a product of our time, and although things are getting better, we have a long way to go before we are free from racism/sexism/classism/homophobia to name a few isms (and one phobia). If it exists in culture, it exists in you too.

Finally, I know I pissed many people off with this thread. It was intended to be light-hearted. I have arrived at these ideas after doing quite a bit of thinking, and didn't bother to fill in the space between A and B. In other words, I blurted out some unconventional, controversial ideas without telling you how I got to them.

Some of got it right away, but apparently others thought I was calling them Klansmen, and apparently others still ACTUALLY ARE KLANMEN (just kidding you know who.)

It probably would have been better to present these ideas as things I've discovered about myself, without forcing anyone to have to take a critical look inside their own soul. Forcing introspection is not polite.

Still, I think this discussion will be rattling around in sifty heads for some time, and at the very least, we've breached that most taboo of American taboos, racism. Maybe we should move on to classism..........

SG,

Oh, and it's so funny to call someone irrational if they dislike something that's somehow tied to a particular culture

You've misunderstood. Your criteria for disliking something may be rational or irrational. Disliking something doesn't make you irrational.

On Country

You don't like 'modern' country, but you do like country, which means you haven't written off an entire genre of music (I'm not judging, it's just an observation).

I happen to agree with you on country, but there is some decent stuff out there if you look for it. If you don't already know Abigail Washburn, then she is soon to be one of your favorites. Other acts to look for are Old Crow Medicine Show, Wilco and Nickel Creek. None of it but the AW stuff really stack up to Patsy Cline or Johnny Cash, but it's a helluva lot better than the drivel on the radio.

In general, music on commercial radio is horrible.

Jazz and Hip-Hop

Jazz and Hip-hop are actually more similar than you think.

-They both use the same types of rhythmic syncopations. This point is made clearly by an excellent mashup of an Eminem song and an old piano rag. The track is called 'Snookered' by a DJ named Freelance Hairdresser. You can follow these syncopations from ragtime to Dixie Jazz, to Swing, Rock, Bop, Soul, Funk, and eventually Hip-Hop.

-The co-opting of popular tunes is also shared between the two genres. Rappers are much maligned for their use of samples and get little credit for the creative ways in which they reconstruct the source material. Jazzer's would also co-opt the popular standards of the day, tweaking the harmonies/ melodies and adding their own improvisational ideas.

-Both types of music place a large emphasis on improvisation. In Hip-Hop it's called freestyle.

-Like Hip-Hop, Jazz was an outlet for a culture largely shut out of the mainstream. Both styles of music were marginalized, maligned and generally considered lewd, crude and disgusting.

-Jazz was eventually co-opted and accepted by whites, which is happening as we speak in the hip hop world. This isn't a bad thing, as white folks had/have some nice things to add.

Finally, I must say that your characterization of Hip-hop as negative is as bad a generalization as saying all Christians are as lame as Pat Robertson. There is plenty of positive Hip-Hop out there. I'd suggest MeShell Ndegeocello, Eryka Badhu, Outkast and M.I.A. for starters.

The media spends much time attacking Hip-Hip, and buying into media distortions don't make you a racist.

The racism I speak of is subtle and internalized. If you were to recognize this racism in yourself, it would evaporate instantly upon recognition. I'm not trying to brand anyone with a scarlet R, this is just a plea for folks to be introspective and constantly in a state of self improvement.

We are all a product of our time, and although things are getting better, we have a long way to go before we are free from racism/sexism/classism/homophobia to name a few isms (and one phobia). If it exists in culture, it exists in you too.

Finally, I know I pissed many people off with this thread. It was intended to be light-hearted. I have arrived at these ideas after doing quite a bit of thinking, and didn't bother to fill in the space between A and B. In other words, I blurted out some unconventional, controversial ideas without telling you how I got to them.

Some of got it right away, but apparently others thought I was calling them Klansmen, and apparently others still ACTUALLY ARE KLANMEN (just kidding you know who.)

It probably would have been better to present these ideas as things I've discovered about myself, without forcing anyone to have to take a critical look inside their own soul. Forcing introspection is not polite.

Still, I think this discussion will be rattling around in sifty heads for some time, and at the very least, we've breached that most taboo of American taboos, racism. Maybe we should move on to classism..........