@VoodooV as much as you'd like to fantasize about me being hurt and crying in a corner, I assure I'm just pointing out that you're wasting time trying to troll me instead of arguing like someone with the least bit of intellectual honesty, so you'll hopefully realize it doesn't work.

I guess you didn't, and now you're just being juvenile, even quoting my entire post after I asked you not to. This begs the question, why haven't you insulted my mom yet? Seriously, it's the logical next step. Why can't you be honest about being a troll? I already have the thumbnail, is this the best you can do?

There are no rules for us talking, you can do whatever you want, really, just troll like you've been doing since all this started, I won't be impressed. You think debating requires enforceable rules? Rules that involve some kind of coercion, like a fine, maybe prison time? Is that why you've been acting like a brat, to illustrate the need for what... censorship?

As much as I'd like to see you booted from the videosift community, I can't pull any strings around here, but that wouldn't be coercion if I did, because no one has a right to post on videosift. Censorship, on the other hand, would involve sending a police officer to your house and arresting you for excessive trolling. Can you see the difference? Does that example help illustrate what "coercion" means?

When I say no one cares about this internet argument, I'm hoping you'll stop trying to impress the huge crowd you think is reading this BS you've been posting. You do realize your antics are useless on me, right?

What emotional content am I resorting to when I use the words "freedom" and "coercion"? I dare you to prove to me how I'm being emotional about them. Prove it. PROVE IT. lmao

My initial question didn't involve gun control at all, it was broader, I was asking, "won't people be less inclined to be responsible if they have less freedom?", it's about how having less freedom makes people tend not to be so responsible.

Over time, when we take people's freedoms away, they tend to be less responsible about the decisions we're not letting them make. There's no way they can learn about any different (good or bad) outcomes related to decisions they couldn't make, and they can't be held responsible for them either, so they can hardly become more responsible.

You keep avoiding this simple explanation and shouting about everything else. What are you so afraid of?

P.S.: if you want to admit to trolling me, just quote my entire post again. I dare you.

@newtboy again, the "freedom doesn't work unless perfect condition X". You don't need perfect circumstances for freedom to work. Many people abuse freedom of speech to say terrible things or spread the worst lies. Some are prosecuted, some aren't, big deal. Still, most americans believe in freedom of speech, in the sense that people tend to become more responsible when they have it, not only about what they say, but also not believing everything they hear, and heavily regulating each other much more wisely than any government censorship ever could.

*dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Filter-Bubbles-The-Unseen-Censorship

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Great talk. It is a dupe, though.

I can't call it, because I posted the original.

http://videosift.com/video/Filter-Bubbles-The-Unseen-Censorship

*dead weiner campaign censorship

Meh. I don't think this is smart. Continues to miss the point. Although I don't know when this was recorded.

Patton Oswalt has changed his mind. He listened and finally got it.

It isn't about censorship. And yet they are still talking about censorship.

@ChaosEngine - I understand where your heart is at, but censorship is overrated. I'm sure the kid hears 10x the amount of language online than we ever did in the pre-VoIP gaming days, and I'm positive that the social negativity that one can experience in those settings is far more damaging than any words they might hear.

@shang - Don't have the energy to verify it, but good to know the other perspective. If that is true I'm sure it could also go either way. I.e. "I used to be an asshole, but I know what it's like to get bullied so now I stand up for the underdog".

Either way, nice that some folks would pull together to make the kids day. Wish people would mobilize like this for world-issues, but you've got to make the differences on the scale you're able to affect, I suppose.

Hey, @ponceleon, methinks it is you who missed her point.

Her VERY FIRST COMMENT was this isn't about censorship. It is about something else. And yet Norton just keeps hitting that drum.

SHE GAVE UP because Norton is an idiot who had one thing to say that she agreed with. And you, dear ponce, never understood that two things were going on.

She is sharp and funny. And trying to make a point about something that is falling on stone deaf ears. Including yours.

@Yogi -- GREAT POST about freedom of speech.

Lindy agrees with you, too. She said so repeatedly. This isn't about censorship. It is about an atmosphere of violence towards women in our society that is considered acceptable, and how these "jokes" can perpetuate it. The power of language -- she even says that -- we don't agree on the power of language, she tells Norton.

As for loving Louis CK -- what I said was I have never heard him say anything that wasn't searingly honest and respectful. When he does a bit on rape, it is worlds apart from Tosh calling on men in a comedy club to rape a woman present in the room. I can't remember the bit(s) Louis has told, but I know that I have heard them and been admiring of his brilliance in tackling a difficult subject. I also do have a sense memory of "whoa, dude! that is going to piss some people off!"

Louis CK is not for everyone. And not everyone fully understands the nuance of his work (I think -- that sounds self aggrandizing, but I do believe it is true.)

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I don't want to see the endless and interminable posts that puff up around shinyblurry like Pigpen in a Peanuts cartoon. They bore me. They slow down my ability to read posts that I enjoy.

I have a slick tool to use. I am using it.

That isn't censorship or cowering behind a curtain.

It is free will.

There are men, somewhere, quietly hoping that without Swartz's articulate voice, the next iteration of internet censorship will eek through before it gets noticed.

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SORRY friends, Please, The man in this video is suffering an injustice in Argentina. The contents i about this: Raul Belmont and William Chaplain, in an interview on Channel 7 of Salta, Argentina. The report shocked all the marginal people and popular Lerma Valley. Belmont, host of Words and Facts visibly impacted had to interrupt the meeting to embrace his guest sharing the excitement. His audience could see for the first time "The Caravan of the Poor in support of Chaplain William" from which they had participated. The Caravan of the Poor People. ever widespread censorship by a decade ago, is now known. A high ranking retired police handed the video to Chaplain who made the presentation pompadour but had not seen it in its entirety. When this happened in the studios of Channel 7, the interviewee burst into tears and visibly shocked driver stopped to embrace his program interviewed.

Now read Harriet Beecher Stowe's Uncle Tom's Cabin and count how many times the word the word "nigger" is used and think about the context of what you are reading before you recoil from seeing letters arranged on pages that make you feel....uncomfortable.

Other suggested reading:
http://www.tommyduggan.com/teacher.html

Oh, and Joseph Conrad "NIgger of the Narcissus" ??...Here's a moronic move by the publisher re-issuing the book in 2009(about the time when all this N-Word nonsense started??) written in 1897, the new printing calls it, "The N-Word of the Narcissus"
in a dull and vapid move to not hurt anyone's wittle feeewings when gazing at it on the shelf??! WTF?! Censorship of an issue someone has with semantics and etymology, etc....ludicrous.

Racist books should be read to kids to school them on HISTORY as well as guide them in a path to understanding the species and the social cauldron we live in now. You can't help the old fuckers, they're gonna have to work it out on their own...But please, teaching your children to reference a word by it's first letter?? Someone hand me that airplane bag, still got a few hours left on the flight.

I lapse into this diatribe for your benefit and edification EDB, not trying to be mean-I believe the recent fervor over Django Unchained got me back on the subject, as well as the inappropriate title of this offering.

I also believe that it is part of the natural order of the species to survive, and to avail oneself of all the tools necessary to do so during one's tenure here should be a no-brainer to modern man with an I.Q. of 90 or above, hence my stance on being able to bear arms with as many bullets as needed to accomplish the task by birthright-Why should only cunts have guns, eh? Makes no sense.

Hope you understand my stance on guns now...I ain't no ya-hoo and I know my way around all the guns I own and the ones I've had a chance to get my hands on after about 50 rounds with an unfamiliar handgun?? Holes in holes at 10 yards, all day long!

Oh and BTW, I called that phone number on this advert. "No Longer in Service"

Is this freal??