May I also suggest one's a matter of decorum, the other drunk on autocractic power and intent on punish any dissent?

some of that might be helpful. 'tho Facebook, X and the sludge of right-wing morgues (where truth or thought goes to die)* show some have no pride, shame or gray-matter.
additionally, with all the unauthorized, spook behavior of Leon and ilk - maybe a liability.
would prefer some balance.
the fairness doctrine was put there to give people a different perspective. most people try to be fair. like any debate, no one person is going to win them all. and often efficiently culls the hacks EX: Rush Limbaugh tried a TV show but his audience ran him off the air {check out YouTube} ideas were challenged and died on the vine. Rush's vineyard went dry.
plus, believe people would love to hear something new. get the idea Fox audiences are s t a r v e d for some synaptic activity when the former Sec of Trans got a standing O because of it.
it felt good. and not so damn blah-blah-blah.
plus just getting the spectrum of people talking to each, trying to actually solve something, just might provide us the way back to some sense of sanity.

*yeah. no group has corner the market on bad brains - but the per capita is defiantly skewed toward the far right.

This is way more homoerotic than any drag show could ever be.

There’s a simple, relatively easy way to accomplish this with no extra moderation or even rules….erase internet anonymity. 99.97% of people act much better when they aren’t hiding behind the curtain and shielding themselves from any repercussions.

another head scratcher/gut churner/soul sighing show. it's way over time to get some patrols on the 'information highway'. the web of lies/undue social influence/bias reporting/echo chambers and general nastiness needs some lines of (lack of a better word) decency that nary be crossed.
it's been done before.
'fire in a crowed theater' put some measurement on of the definition of 'free speech'. there is a line where 'free speech' fails to be freedom & becomes the dungeons of despair.
it's a tough subject to gauge, but do trust caring* people can draw a 'line-in-the-sand' so young people don't kill themselves over cyber bulling. or hyper-partisan yodels don't attack random INNOCENT people. or where honesty and a love of variable facts becomes a touchstone.
it needs to happen.
this would be the (past) time to get all types together and hammer out some guidelines. Maybe, use existing laws. change the 230(#?) shield limits. AI monitoring. or have civil suits to sue, sue, and sue until the posting of anything that comes into a person's head, meets a reality check.
not against the exchange of ideas, challenges of the norms, or any free speech of merit (or even some of dubious value) -but just getting us out of the muck of the 'muddy minimum-maintenance roadway of disinformation'.
peace.


*extend that to all of the 'sick-of-this-s*it' folk)

Nice try….but for Ford that exposure to the elements exclusion is limited to cosmetic damage to paint trim and interior, not the drive train parts like a Tesla…and didn’t include light.
And notice “uneven, rough, damaged, or hazardous surfaces, unfinished roads, (read as any dirt road regardless of condition) , or any purpose for which the vehicle was not designed” (which is anywhere off pavement or parked outside or any truck activity in teslas) are NOT listed as not covered in the Ford warranty, only intentional misuse or abuse.

OMG! The part you mentioned about not covering you driving through a car wash is spelled out to mean if you hit something…”accidents collisions or objects striking the vehicle ( including driving through a car wash)”, not about it getting wet…the Tesla voids the entire car if you don’t go into car wash mode to wash it and if you use any pressurized water, or get any water through the bad “seals”, or don’t immediately dry it.

Why are you trying so hard to misrepresent easily read warranties to pretend Teslas or their warranties are like the others…they aren’t. It’s clear.
Elon? Is that you?

Maybe so about the parts ordering, I can’t find that, still wouldn’t sit well with me that my car could order it’s own parts in my name…and I would expect abuse, especially considering the company owner.

I don’t have one to read the warranty directly, but not covering any damages incurred off the pavement even on flat level dirt roads or driveways is not normal for a truck, especially a 4x4. Fords come with an off road package and do not exclude damages/failures that happen on maintained dirt roads or flat level grass (maybe excluding potholes)…and they don’t get stuck on either!

I feel I can safely say no other truck voids the warranty for “exposure to sunlight, wind, or water”, listed on the “warranty”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1d0ld6y/tesla_cybertruck_warranty_doesnt_include/


Tesla is well known for covering nothing off dry pavement including damage from puddles or mud (neither of which should damage a truck, and don’t damage Fords).

The Pinto thing is total BS sensationalist stat mining. They include the guy that tried to blow himself up in the Cybertruck in Vegas as someone who was killed by the truck. Really?

The parts thing only happens when vehicles and replacement parts are under warranty. @newtboy If you can find the source showing the warranty is voided driving a Cybertruck in the grass then I'll find the same language in the warranty docs for Fords.

This stuff is funny and Tesla doesn't deserve any leeway since their CEO has apparently gone"fact free" lately, but pushing easy to discredit "facts" seems like it distracts from the real issues with these vehicles and the company as a whole.

The biggest problem with Tesla in my mind is their over-promising and shitty service. I'm not sure how companies get away with promising stuff that isn't available yet but it seems like it is getting more common.

To me it looks like their service problems are a mix of 3 factors.
1. Not enough replacement parts at the ready
2. Service centers are understaffed because of the principal of running at below expected need until shit breaks. Only then can you apply more resources.
3. Service centers were designed to work efficiently but are run by a bunch of idiots that came from other manufacturer service centers so they want to do it "their way" instead of following the efficient hands off model that was originally planned.

I don’t know about bird flu, but I had the flu last week and it was much worse than Covid for us.

Bird flu is transferred to cattle and pets….and has been found in milk and meat. It is beyond time to worry, especially since our pandemic response team has been fired….again…just like it was before Covid (by the same person who learned nothing).
The FDA and CDC are run by a man with severe brain damage both from decades of heroin abuse and brain worms eating a significant portion of his brain (although to eat the rotting road kill and get brain worms, he had to have serious brain damage already)…he doesn’t believe in vaccinations and seems to believe the best thing is full epidemic and let whoever dies die.
With Medicare and Medicaid in limbo at best, hospitals are already struggling to stay open, just wait until they are chocked full of patients but few if any staff. Its coming.

Buy PPE now while you can. N95 masks are already gone from shelves here, so is hand sanitizer. Things will get weird, and there will be no public health warnings telling you it is happening. They have been banned outright.

Holy crap! Just to drive home the unbelievable incompetence of this administration, our eggs are up to $15 a dozen and rising (3 times their pre-felon cost), in Mexico, a dozen eggs is well under $2!
Expect all food to be similarly overpriced. Just because the tariffs were dropped (except from China) doesn’t mean the trade war is over…Mexico, Canada, and China have all curtailed their orders from the US severely without tariffs. Canada pulled all US alcohol off the shelves, and aren’t keen on putting it back.
Also, thousands were murdered because he suspended funding for experimental medical trials, meaning thousands are in the middle of treatments for deadly diseases which drives medical advancements, many with devices implanted, all of which were just abandoned to die.
And, eggs are so expensive that they are now being hijacked by the truckload, and RFK jr 1) skipped the transition meeting so has no clue what’s happening and 2) doesn’t believe in pandemics so has no plan to address bird flu or any other emerging disease or food shortage.
And we now know why Elon shut down USAID…not because they were wasteful or leftists, Ivanka used millions in USAID herself, they were investigating his Starlink contracts in Ukraine (like overcharging and how he shut them down at critical times to help Russia in the war), so had to close.
Also, he and his subordinate the felon rehired the active proud racist Nazi that quit when he was outed, because they both are Nazis themselves. Time for instigating that Indian hate he advocates against race traitor Vance and his brown family.

Russia is playing videos of nude Melania doing soft core porn constantly on state TV to embarrass the felon. Maybe soon we can see the golden shower tapes.
China put a 15% tariff on US imports and blocked hundreds of billions in deliveries from port while stopping shipments of rare earth minerals and Xi is not taking the felon’s phone calls, we dropped all our tariffs for no gains, in fact 5000 Mexican troops left the border that Biden had secured, we lost around $2 trillion in net worth or more in two weeks, we destroyed international relations with both our neighbors (both of which are now considering BRICS and distancing themselves from America as much as possible), and we stated unambiguously that treaties and official agreements (like the felon’s own trade agreement) with the US aren’t worth the paper they’re written on and are discarded at any whim, so no more agreements, treaties, or being allied. Canada removed all US alcohol off their shelves, don’t expect it to return.
Eggs $15.
No company is hiring or expanding nationwide now, because they have no idea what insanity the felon will do next, what stupid tariffs they will have to contend with, what supply chains will be cut, or what allies will refuse deliveries.
Winning!

And…..the first article of impeachment has been filed. How long before a few Republicans grow a spine and stand up.

In a panic because his dismantling of the air safety boards, firing the FAA head, putting a hiring freeze on air traffic controllers who are already 30%+ understaffed, and erasing any job security for the remaining few the day before (when there was another near miss between helicopters and planes due to understaffing and the added stress he intentionally put them under) only took a day to cause a mid air crash, the moron is blaming Biden for training disabled people to work in the field….

…..obviously forgetting the order to hire more disabled people for air traffic control was made by him in 2019 because there was a shortage back then and that was his “fix” (didn’t fix anything), or hoping his people are too stupid to look it up knowing they are all too dumb to remember what happened yesterday.

Every word is a lie, every action a disaster.

America won’t survive 4 more months of this, forget 4 years.
Remember remember the 5th of November…..Where’s America’s Guy Falks? Can he make it the 5th of March instead please….we don’t have until November.

By decree, he has also claimed to have ended FEMA, saying states should take care of themselves, not each other. The south is doomed….California will just withhold federal taxes and pay for itself, and save tens of billions of dollars per year that way, Louisiana alone will be $10 billion per year in the hole or more. All southern states are “takers” from the fed… Enjoy.

Eggs are $9 already and skyrocketing and he completely abandoned the promise to lower grocery prices, now says it’s impossible.

When told his policies are already crashing the economy on live TV by Hannity he answered “I don’t care”.

We will be in a depression this summer, and a real military invasion by Xmas (unless he hands Alaska to Russia and Hawaii to China).

His first plan to stop the Ukraine war….tell Putin he is planning tariffs and sanctions on anything Russia sells the U.S. (clearly not knowing they’ve been in effect for years already, and that Russia hasn’t sold anything to the US in years).

Pardoned more terrorists including those who pleaded guilty to treason/sedition and violence against police.
Some were re-arrested for more violent felonies they committed under a day after release. He invited these convicted anti American criminal thugs to the Whitehouse.
This is exactly what he did in 2020 in Afghanistan before handing the country to the criminal terrorist Taliban (yes, he even invited Taliban leaders to Camp David and the Whitehouse)…a group he seems to look up to. Thank goodness some judges refuse to dismiss with prejudice so they can be retried if law and order ever return to America….unlikely.

Once again, he already dismantled our pandemic response team right as bird flu is emerging in America, and decreed our health agencies cannot make any statements or recommendations but must keep silent and useless. Buy PPE!

His plans to deport every undocumented alien are estimated to cost multiple trillions per year directly just to try and cost the economy up to another $10 trillion per year in lost production…absolutely devastating and turning us into a third world nation overnight.

Is there peace in Ukraine yet? His new stated plan is to ask President Xi of China who is supplying Russia with military equipment and ammo to solve it for him. Russia is publicly mocking him and Smelania (by broadcasting her soft core porn constantly), laughing at his “threats” and giddy at their luck that Biden is gone and their cucked boy is back.

Shocker, these decrees are all directly from project 2025, written by the project 2025 committees, and many Trump doesn’t know what he’s signing since he wasn’t involved in drafting the orders….exactly as we knew would happen.

UPDATE: Decree #1, ending birthright citizenship, shut down by a Republican judge with a hilarious rebuke.

Also fun, 75% of farm workers didn’t show up to work this week. Harvests are essentially cancelled. Prepare for double digit inflation at the grocery store in short order. $9 eggs is just a start.

I've shouldn't have tipped my Teppanyaki chef at all! He didn't do any of this tricks to my food and refues to fry me a live chick!