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Big Think: John Cleese on Being Offended

enoch says...

@Imagoamin

i can agree with your basic premise:free speech can have consequences in the form of MORE speech.

you are totally free to espouse the most ridiculous,self-centered narcissistic cry-baby drivel you like,and i am totally free to ridicule you as the cry-baby bed-wetter you are behaving like.

the problems arise when that interaction is then seen as "harassment" and a defamation of the constantly oppressed group of bed-wetters.how dare i slander such a tender group! havent they suffered enough?

nobody is saying that one group is excused from free speech or from criticism,and most people would agree that if you yell FIRE in a room and cause a panic when there was no fire,there should be consequences for your actions.

what people ARE saying is that making certain words unacceptable,therefore changing the very language we use to express,convey and deliver complex thoughts,feelings and imaginings is counter-productive.made further so when an abstract art form such as comedy is so easily taken out of context to further an agenda.

remember #cancelcolbert?

the comedy and satire was totally lost on that over-privileged nitwit suey park.she instead focused on a single element of his monologue and chose to be offended,without even considering the larger implications of the humor in colberts bit.

does she have a right to be offended?of course.
does she have a right to be outraged and start a twitter campaign to shut down colberts show?yep..she sure does.

and we have the right to absolutely take her inane,and un-self-aware false campaign for justice to task,and ridicule her relentlessly.

because bad ideas,poor understandings and judgements dressed up as social justice SHOULD be ridiculed for the stupidity they represent.

as for your assertion that comedians are thin skinned,or need to grow a thicker skin,i think you have no idea what you are fucking talking about.you ever spoke in public? in front of crowd?

believe me...you grow thick skin,and fast,until it becomes titanium.

i see no further reason to beat that particular horse but just look up chris rock,seinfeld,louis ck ,bill burr,joe rogan.they all lay out quite clearly why universities are a dead zone for comedy.

because the extreme end of social justice warriors are humorless cunts.

I Could Do That | The Art Assignment

robbersdog49 says...

Hmmmm. I buy some of that, but not all of it. Or rather it's true in some cases but not all. Some art, like the two lovers/clocks has meaning beyond it's own form and that's important to appreciate it. But there are certainly some abstract works out there that are just too lost in art.

I'm on the edge of the art world as an illustrator and photographer and completely get the 'go do it' angle though. Just saying 'I could do that' is missing the point entirely. Anyone who looks at a simple bit of art with a high value and thinks it must be simple to just paint a few squares and put a thousand pound price on it can't honestly believe it, otherwise we'd be up to our eyeballs in shitty paintings with huge price tags.

If a bit of artwork needs an artist's name to be worth something then consider what it took for the artist to get to that place. They didn't just wake up one morning a famous artist. The name gives context and can be important. Not every time, some 'artists' are just way too into their circlejerks and mutual bigging up that the only skill an artist might need is to be just weird enough and in the right place at the right time to be one of the 'in crowd', but to be fair this isn't the case with the vast majority of abstract art.

Aelita Andre - Prodigy of Color

bamdrew says...

Also, children are basically adults who are crazy and have no inhibitions... so it makes sense that they would make some interesting abstract art.

I say give this little girl a block of marble and a hammer and chisel!

"Urban Abstract" - Stunning and hypnotic urban animation

westy says...

>> ^Reefie:

>> ^westy:
not that good but not bad ether would expect more from a business i have seen better work from start up companies and students.

Aww, you just need a hug!


well the video says this in its comment "A seriously amazing abstract art piece"

granted it might be amazing to some , but if you watch allot of animation or work in that field then you will probably come to the conclusion that this is not amazing but just slightly above average and could certainly have been done better.

Feel Free to Say WTF

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Yeah, art that you do not personally like is still art, and getting angry about absurd or abstract art more often then not pleases the artist, because it means her/his attempt to challenge your sensibilities was successful. With out seeing the entire performance/play, it's hard to make a value judgment, but I generally think it's cool when people try new things/fuck with peoples minds.

Foo Fighters - 'The Pretender'

Krupo says...

Watching this vid makes me think, "gee, rock music video director, now there's a fun career choice." The absolutely random-seeming pans and zooms - oh it's just another random empty warehouse video. With a big red screen. And what's this? A riot cop? Is he bringing friends? Oh dear yes. Followed by more panning and such. Where's ths going? IT DOESN'T MATTER! Because the Foo rock.

Oh no, run Dave, run!

Ah, he has an ace up his sleeve. The magic red wall was more than just a big piece of abstract art. It was... a giant resvoir of tomato soup? Cow blood? Whatever - awesome.

Photorealistic pencil drawing of a watch: A time-lapse video

AnimalsForCrackers says...

To assume without any further info that this artist doesn't sketch any of his own artwork or that he/she isn't capable of doing so, considering the level of realistic translation and the hours upon hours it would take of random doodling/practice to even get to that level, would be a little hasty at best. Accurately translating the physical world with all it's subtle complexities onto paper requires more skill/thought/knowledge of the processes behind the visuals than most people realize. I agree though that the subject here is rather mundane but who says art can't be so? This knowledge of artistic method (while not wholly necessary) can form the foundation of which to then apply true creative energy to; giving the artist far more range and options to pursue confidently without wondering how the hell to translate that crystal clear picture of an idea in their head and make it a reality. Even abstract art benefits from rudimentary composition skills. This is more of a semantics issue I think. Still life is art any way you slice it, doesn't have to be interesting to qualify.

Dynamic "painting" by artist San Base

westy says...

are films and computer games not dynamic images ? this guy has just created an image that merely changes the color and is more in the ganra of BS modern art where u can simply clame something is amazing and so long as your bs delivery is good then everyone loves it. don't get me wrong i love allot of modern and abstract art and i might Evan like this image however to value it above other art ore value it in itself other than on an aesthetic level you would have to know the motivations behind the image and the artists intentions.

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