As much as I hate to give Morgan credit for anything, he’s on the right side here and stirring up “trouble” is the right move.
How quickly the capitulating thugs cave when exposed to the light of day. Before Elton could comment they tucked tail and reversed themselves.

I only hope some CCP thugs show up on Friday trying to intimidate and get lynched by 500 unruly soccer hooligans, then drawn and quartered on live stream. Keep your socialist government control ideals at home.

QUICK! GRAB THE SURFBOARDS!

Trump is a wannabe elite trying to buy his way into elite society but he’s not one of them. He’s poorly bred, crass, rude, oafish, witless, loudly vacuous, and boorish….in short he is Al Czervik (Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack) without the business acumen.

Trump and all Republicans proved the exact opposite of what this guy said…when in control they worked hard for the elites and against the interests of the middle and lower class. They forgave PPP loans to millionaire business owners then claimed it’s impossible and unAmerican to do the same for student debt for the poor.

The fact that much of this is quick cuts spliced together mean even he doesn’t believe what this video presents as his statements. 😂

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“ my solution would be every able bodied Jewish man and woman join the French (or Polish, Russian, British) army and fucking fight…”

I agree that’s the noble thing to do, but I can’t condemn the ones that choose to seek safety in numbers with Jewish Palestinians as exclusively invasion minded aggressors. My 6 million tag was maybe a bit sharp, but you also know that the Nazi’s took Paris and as much as it sucked to be French or European under Nazi occupation, you also know adding Jewish to that carried a lot of extra consequence and danger to your family.

My POV is agnostic of everything save Isreali people today having a right exist as a nation. Which at this point from my POV leaves 1947 as somewhat academic.

It’s your insistence that Jewish people, and the existence of Israel, have always fundamentally been invaders that I was objecting to as it is so intensely at odds with factual history.

You gave a brief nod on not being a scholar of Palestinian history, but then proceed to just count all Jewish refugees as good as Zionist aggressors from day 1(or close enough), and the local Arab population as nothing but pure, kind caring victims of these invaders.

I will state again, that is ahistorical propaganda and NOT what actually happened. And for my POV, its enough generations back as to be Academic, but for your POV it is fundamental because without being able to writeoff Israel as invaders from day 1, nuance enters the calculus and suddenly the conflict is flooded with shades of grey because lots of parties all contribute to the bloodshed, and many with reasonable motivations from both sides yet too.

Please find me any reputable sources to refute the reality of 1920-1940s Palestine:
-Mass Jewish immigration fleeing European oppression raised tensions between Jewish and Arab Palestinians.(as one must expect)
-Arab palestinians were already chaffing and resisting British colonial rule(as one must expect)
-These tensions led conflict, initially more ‘civil’ with the Arab majority trying to refuse all business, sales and trade with all Jews.
-Escalation followed throughout that time, but in drips and drops and NOT a ‘surprise the Zionist army has arrived’! style of aggression

The violent escalation was a fight here, a beating there. Little individual fights, escalating into deaths. Retaliations slowly grew, with each side exchanging small escalations.

-the culmination of this was eventually all out civil war, and the Jewish side immediately accepting a UN mandated 2 state solution

-this culmination coinciding with the end of WW2 and revelations of the true extent of the holocaust can’t be ignored, it certainly shaped the Jewish mindset in the conflict.

-Their mindset was pretty clearly not inaccurate either, as the immediate response of all neighbouring Arab nations was a declaration of war on the new ‘state’, with bold claims of how quickly the Jews would be swept into the sea. The confidence was so high, a call was sent it for ALL Arab palestinians to abandon and flee the entire region of Palestine to better enable the complete cleansing of the land.

The above is all pretty much inarguably factual, and I’d bargain you could get an Arabic and Israeli scholar together to more or less agree on those facts which is saying alot.

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Propaganda from both sides would like to declare that the Arabs harboured deep Nazi sympathies, and thus Israel was pure and true in all it did. Or from the other side, more or less your narrative of Zionist bad guys launching invasion from day 1(ish).

Both though are just sprinklings of half truths, with anti-British resentment naturally breeding some leanings towards the axis, and even genuine Nazi cleanse the Jews believers. And absolutely Zionists featured prominently within the Jewish population. Neither of those partial truths though make the propaganda of either side true, but instead just an incomplete and intentionally biased picture.


Again, please find me sources demonstrating I’m terribly wrong on all that, but the only ones I can find are clearly biased and the accurate accounts paint the picture above, the propaganda very, very clearly copies the real story more or less with just deletions of inconvenient bits

Yes. What’s your point? You seem to agree with me, except you go back to the 20’s instead of early 30’s. I’m not a Palestine scholar, sorry if I get details or dates slightly wrong, sources vary on many points. It doesn’t change my point, that under British rule European Jews were allowed to immigrate in huge numbers despite opposition from the native population that was being overwhelmed by increasing unwanted forced immigration. At first it was accepted even encouraged by the empathetic natives, but quickly became an overwhelming unwanted invasion of people intent on taking over, not some moderate number of refugees looking for temporary refuge.

Who the fuck cares what the reason they wanted to invade was? Palestinians weren’t responsible for their plight, but still stood ready to help until invaded and subjugated harshly by the invaders.
Should Venezuelans be allowed to take over Pennsylvania because they want out of Venezuela for good reason? Or Chinese? Or any African? Or Central American? Certainly Haitians have it bad enough to make it ok to take a state for themselves! Yes, Europe was dangerous…for anyone. That’s not an excuse to invade, murder another person and steal their land and subjugate their descendants for decades, but that’s what they did…and what you’re attempting to excuse.

Well, that explains it then. You think because the Jews had it worse once, it excuses being the Nazis today. I do not, I believe it gives them more reason to never be anything like the Nazis, not emulate them. The Palestinian plight is worse than many Jews in Europe besides Poland or Germany. They’re already in the ghetto, not free to travel and maybe get out. They’re already oppressed, subjugated, starved, dehydrated, often without power or communications, and 100% under the thumb and control of their oppressors. Sounds pretty shitty to me. Your family murdered at a whim with no repercussions sounds pretty bad. Your ancestral home taken by force and family shot for existing sounds fairly bad. I’m not sure how you think it’s OK because someone else maybe had it worse once.

When they “arrived in Palestine”, it was as an illegal unwanted invasion intent on taking over and expelling or eradicating the native population. They deserved violence 100%. The population was doing more than their share accepting refugees, then for their humanity was invaded and dehumanized in their own country. No excuse can make that acceptable unless it had happened in Germany post war.

Yes, Jews were the bad guys, invading a land they had and have no right to. You got it! They didn’t even have a right to refugee status there, it was a gift, they absolutely had no right to take control and possession by force, nor to become the inhuman monsters they were fleeing in Northern Europe.

Absolutely not. What even was his plan, I ask you. It wasn’t securing the borders.

I support the plan to FUND border parol and immigration courts to not only secure the border but repair the immigration process that does not function today. With a functioning immigration process, most would use it, making stopping illegal entry much easier.

I support refugee camps in the East Texas desert, not open release before processing.

I absolutely do not support actual open borders, nor allowing other countries to just send plane and train and boatloads of unvetted people in in numbers that would make natives the minority in quick fashion, nor do I support returning Texas (including Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, and New Mexico) to the Mexicans even though they are fleeing near the same level of fear, oppression and death from narco gangs and have some hereditary claims (which European Jews did not, they were mostly not Semitic genetically). I disagree the circumstances were much more desperate in the 30’s outside of Germany, and I disagree that the choices are Trumpism or no-border free-for-alls.

In short-The small population of Arab natives along with a native Jewish minority welcomed a relatively small number of European Jewish refugees in the (edit:20’s and early) 30’s while under British rule (but with a date set for their independence by the League of Nations, a date that came and went without ever establishing a Palestinian state). Then in the 40’s (even by mid 30’s)the Jewish minority, America, and England ignored their pleas to minimize immigration, ignored immigration laws, and invited a major invasion, so many European Jews came illegally that the Arab natives quickly became the minority, then had all rights stripped by the now well armed invaders that now claimed their land and property…invaders that kept coming by the millions. How is that not an invasion of squatters?
It’s a complete abandonment of the Palestinian Mandate the Brits ruled under, which was allowed internationally after ww1 for the sole purpose of getting Palestine in a position to rule themselves, something the Brits failed to even try then actively sabotaged by supporting the mass immigration of millions of European Jews, and was the biggest possible “fuck off and die” to the Palestinian people that had cooperated fully with the international plan for their independent future that was unceremoniously stripped from them and handed to Israel.
From that point, details don’t matter so much. Invading occupying forces don’t get to whine because the natives won’t just go away and die….at least I’m not listening when they do. Want to stop being attacked, stop murdering innocents and taking land.

I wonder why you think Israel is not so dominant seeing as they already proved repeatedly their military dominance even when their neighbors band together. Not one of the countries you mentioned has an advanced military, they are last gen at best, really two or more generations behind, and have third world resources not trillions to spend. Iraq proved that advanced weapons beat numbers hands down every single time. Unless Iran gets a nuke capable of getting through the highest levels of missile defense on the planet, their “neighbors” (Palestines allies) pose no actual threat to Israel and a pretty minor threat to the expansionist settlers invading Palestine.

I never ignored any rolls of the neighbors supporting, arming, and instigating unrest…but those roles are minuscule compared to the actions of Israel. Nothing recruits for Hamas like the Israeli army. Nothing creates more terrorists than murderous settlers. No other factor has 1% the effect that Israel’s own actions do in creating enemies.
Murderous expansionist settlers should be eliminated with prejudice immediately. They are the biggest factor driving Israel’s murderous regime to murder more innocents.
If Israel acted civilly instead of treating the natives like the Nazis treated them, its neighbors couldn’t easily convince angry teens to pick up guns and shoot Israelis. Give the Palestinians something to lose, or they’ll have nothing to lose, a chip on their shoulder, and a clear enemy responsible for their plight. This is the official recipe for a terrorist.

Blaming the neighbors is like claiming N Carolina is RESPONSIBLE for all shootings in N Y because some guns used are procured there…nonsense. They are complicit, but minimally so. It’s the shooters motives you need to look at, not the store they use. Why are they so ready to sacrifice their lives to just shoot or throw rocks AT Israel (99/100 times hitting nothing)? Because they have nothing to lose but life in an ever shrinking ghetto ruled over by a foreign racist regime that wants them just gone and is more than happy to starve children to death and bomb refugee camps to accomplish that goal.
The neighbors didn’t invade, expel, ghettoize, and gleefully murder the Palestinian people, that was Israel.

Blaming the victims is not an argument that will win many over…and no question the Palestinian people are the TRUE and only victims.

Where are the European countries now…the same ones that facilitated the Jewish invasion should be obligated to enforce the borders, and/or take the Palestinian refugees and free them from the ghetto/prison Israel keeps them in….but none are.

Side note- I keep hearing people who support Palestinians described as anti semitic. It bears noting that European Jews, the VAST majority of Israelis, are NOT Semitic…but all Palestinians are. Being pro-Israel is actually and factually anti-Semitic.

Entirely one sided misleading propaganda.

It completely ignores and glosses over the millions of armed Jewish invaders that took over what’s now the ever expanding Israel, outnumbering the less well armed and unsupported Palestinians, quickly creating an apartheid state with inhuman treatment of the now minority native population displaced by European Jews that had no intention of sharing the land they had stolen from the native inhabitants with England’s and America’s blessing, nor of keeping to the borders they agreed to.

So much history was intentionally deleted or completely misrepresented here it’s more misinformation than informative.
The Palestinian people were subjugated by the Turks, then the British, and now by the genocidal Zionists.

The argument here is like if you imagine America has essentially no military at all having just won independence from Britain in 1948, and the French demanded 1/2 of Louisiana as it was originally a French nation and they suffered greatly in the war, including of course New Orleans, and Canada offered them 25% which they agree to, America said “hell no, why should we hand over our land to foreign invaders?”, and now America is blamed for France’s brutal invasion and unending dehumanization of and inhuman war crimes against and brutal subjugation and imprisonment of the people of the entire Louisiana territory that France now claims, with sights on more expansion.

*lies

I can remember when I ounce wanted to die back in my second year of high school. I was attracted to a girl that was in my math class. Then I caught her picking her nose after a quick glance her way. That was the day the music died and my boner left me.

My mother was afraid of any animal with teeth. So we never had a pet as kids.

Later in life I took a job traveling to malls with pet stores around the country taking portrait photos of pets, mostly cats and dogs. Out of the ordinary I photographed a Goldfish, a three month old cougar, two snakes, a sheep and a mouse.

I had only got one animal that tried to attack me. A guy in jumpsuit brought his medium but very muscular and VERY hyper pitbull. It wasn't big but it looked dangerous. I got the owner to sit him on the floor and stay after a few tries.

I got only one shot. Normally I would take about eight shots in different positions. When I triggered the camera the three flash units startled the dog and he went right for me. Luckley the owner was ready for it and quickly grabbed the dogs' collar and stopped him just in time.

At the end of the shoot the only poop I had to clean up was my own and unlike my mother I only fear muscular pitbulls.

😂 😂 😂 😂
Oh poor Bobby, that one must have hurt for you to erase it off your page so quickly. Hilarious it’s still a top 5 comment but gone because you can’t stand the truth.
Poor baby. Bad man make Bobby cwy hurt. 😂

Today it was revealed that Elon has cut/refused access to Starlink for Ukraine in the Black Sea in order to intentionally hobble their major counter offensive in the Black Sea and cripple their communication ability and suddenly Elon is calling for an immediate truce (ostensibly with both sides (Russia) retaining any territory taken previously)…so his plan is handing Russia 1/3 of Ukraine and allowing them to keep Ukrainian Crimea…and quick before Ukraine retakes their country.
He has previously said he would not do any such thing ever after offering Ukraine open access to Starlink, but suddenly changed course in the middle of a major military offensive by Ukraine he said would be like Pearl Harbor (meaning the Ukrainians caught a huge number of Russian ships in port vulnerable to attack and could turn the tide of war in one action), but Elon wanted to stop the Ukrainians from achieving such a significant victory so he cut their communications to help Russia! He has admitted this publicly, it’s not supposition.

I hope sanctions are forthcoming…major multiple business ending sanctions.

If you still support Elon, you are the problem. He’s anti American and pro fascist.
Quit X, trade in your Tesla, and tell NASA to quit handing him billions in no bid, no competition, non performance based contracts using tax payer money for failures and global communication projects he capriciously withdraws from our allies when they’re needed most, and uses to prop up and control information for multiple fascist governments to the detriment of the populace but to the benefit of his pockets.

Your. 🤦‍♂️ Every time you display your intelligence level while being so dumb you think you’re smart.
If I take it out and ponder this….what? Another incomplete thought vomited into the ether.

Why? Because that only happened in your delusional little brain and ridiculous propaganda outlets, not reality.

In reality, Clinton and Hunter have been under endless investigation for purely political reasons for years to decades, not a slow walk, hundreds of millions spent with every partisan investigation finding absolutely nothing despite the screamed accusations and protestations from the tin foil hat brigade.

There were no serious crimes by private citizen Hunter (minor tax evasion and a ridiculous never charged gun infraction, both of which he admitted), and none at all by Clinton. 5+ years of Republican investigation for Hunter for purely political reasons and 15+ years of Republican led investigations of Clinton for the clear political motive of stopping her from winning the presidency (and never forget she won the vote by 3 million votes anyway) all found absolutely nothing prosecutable or criminal.
Edit: and based on actual EVIDENCE-
Trump broke hundreds of serious treasonous laws ON TOP OF the same crimes Hunter plead to, way more than just tax evasion and lying on a public form but definitely both of those.
Trump stole hundreds of top secret documents, lied about it, refused to return them, ignored a subpoena, lied again about returning them, actively hid them from searches, lied about them again, all the while keeping them unsecured in publicly accessible areas and sharing them with actual known Chinese agents that work for him!
Trump also tried a violent coup to subvert democracy and turn America into a dictatorship.
Trump also defrauded the election with multiple illegal schemes to toss out the legitimate vote and/or steal the election with fake electors or by Pence just declaring him president.
Trump also lied on sworn official documents trying to hide his payments for sex, and committed numerous business and tax frauds in the effort.
Trump also committed tax and wire fraud to the tune of well over $250 million in NY.
Trump also paid millions for his racist redlining.
Trump also ran a fraudulent charity for injured veterans he used as personal spending cash.
Trump also raped a woman then lied about her to try to hide from repercussions…and continues to do so despite it costing him (by which I mean you, he uses donations for legal bills mostly) $5 million already with way more to come.
If Don JR has a gun, he also lied on the application about drugs…likely true of Don too…Sudafed addiction counts.

If Biden had commitment the same crimes, he would have been indicted, tried, and shot by now….but Joe committed no crimes.

Pedal to the metal!?! 😂 The investigations started well before the latest campaign. One started Jan 7th while he was still president! 🤦‍♂️
It’s blatantly obvious that Trump is only running to try to escape the charges against him. He doesn’t want the job again and is incapable of doing it. You know it, you just won’t admit it…the courts know it too. I won’t insult you by pretending you are so delusional or stupid that you believe the nonsense you just said…but you are so dishonest that you pretend to.

Just for show…. Ok, sure. Then why not lean in? Ask for quick trials to prove it? Wouldn’t that guarantee a win? Wouldn’t that destroy the libtards and put MAGA in charge again? Winning all these cases quickly and exposing the frauds is what any Alpha or Sigma male would do, or any innocent person…whining it’s unfair and trying to delay them forever (or at least until Trump’s death) is what a cucked cowardly beta male or guilty as sin person does. 😂
Trump wants all cases delayed until he either dies, wins the election and pardons himself, or flees the country to Russia the day after the election. Not the actions of an innocent man who wants to clear their name, those are the actions of a terrified trapped rat hoping more time will expose some unseen escape route.

Trump is losing in every real poll by way more that 3% buddy. 😂 He only wins in polls of just Republican voters, because MAGA cucked the republicans and the nuts now run the asylum. Too bad that means the “sane” republicans now vote blue. Try again.

Lol. “No crimes”. Aaaahahahaha! How’s that theory working out? How’s it working in court? You might want to tell all those courts and prosecutors and Trump appointed judges that have ruled there’s overwhelming evidence of hundreds of serious crimes against the American people, government, and laws, because they seem confused. :Joy:

You apparently forget, the FBI reopened the Clinton investigation in mid October 2016 after 12 partisan investigations and hearings had not just failed to find her guilty of anything but in fact totally exonerated her, with absolutely zero new evidence to warrant it, then admitted there was no reason to reopen it weeks later besides hurting her campaign.…you call that a “slow walk”? 😂 Let’s slow walk Trump’s investigations then…with the same $200000000+ budget and only democrats allowed to participate in investigations, and a never ending time line no matter what the results are or how many times accusations fall flat. Agreed? 😂

You also forget Barr investigated Hunter starting 2017 (and he’s been under investigation ever since) and Trump’s DOJ found absolutely NOTHING. Try again loser.

Spreading dick pics of your rival’s son to children is what the right has devolved into. Toothless inbred hicks with no education or teeth find that behavior degrading.

PS- you need another list of 25 elected republicans convicted of child sex crimes? I can provide sets of 25 any time you need…for as long as you need. There’s no shortage.

So, more pandering to the lowest common denominator.
That leads quickly to Idiocracy.

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