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Scientology on Nightline (4/24/2008)

jwray says...

This mediocre report glosses over serious criticisms such as:

No other religion makes you pay thousands of dollars for access to its scriptures.

No other religion makes you pay thousands of dollars to take a lie detector test regularly.

No other religion requires huge amounts of money to advance in the ranks

Police Using Device Created By Fake Doctor To Catch Crooks

siftbot says...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'nitv, cvsa, lie detector, charles humble, phony phd, expose' to 'nitv, cvsa, lie detector, charles humble, phony phd, expose, michael crowe' - edited by calvados

Fascist cops arrest two "leaders" and ticket people who honk

Krupo says...

Another quote:

http://glosslip.com/2008/03/16/overzealous-swat-team-prevails-at-atlanta-anonymous-protest-arrests-made-motorists-pulled-over-for-honking/

"This video is from a guy who says he was ticketed for honking, he plays footage of him driving past the protest. He says the cop was nice about it and indicated he really didn’t want to do it but there was pressure from commanding officers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1P9IIUVAzM

Terrell Bolton. Doesn’t pay taxes he is liable for, submits his own officers to lie detector tests in a witch hunt for “eric” and forces his officers to do mandatory overtime. Seems like just the type of lowlife who would accept a CoS bribe.

There is a blog where Dekalb PD officers anonymously post grievances. I think a whole new Anonymous has a problem with Terrell Bolton."

Moment of Truth Destroys Marriage

Crosswords says...

As mentioned by Wax66, that last question was a load. I seriously wonder how many people who aren't cheating sluts, or some other form of degenerate could answer that "truthfully". Compared to that lady I'm a saint, and if asked that question I'd say yes as well, but that doesn't mean there wouldn't be some level of self doubt, especially if there were a line of questions before hand that would make me doubt my answer. Have you ever talked bad about a friend, have you ever declined to give money to a charity, have you ever cut someone off in traffic even by accident, etc etc etc. Ask people those questions, then ask them if they're a good person and see if there isn't enough doubt to set off on a lie detector.

wax66 (Member Profile)

Kevlar says...

Nice points, Wax.

In reply to this comment by wax66:
This show has many 'problems'. It's obvious by its popularity that many people indulge in Schadenfreude, which is left to their own moral compass. And sure, we all think it's despicable for the rich to pay the poor for degrading acts, but that will never stop as long as there is even the slightest differences in pay. After all, people tend to do what they can get away with. However, the real problem here is that people have something to hide in the first place. If the slut had just simply been honest with herself and her husband about wanting to be a slut, and not bended to society's and possibly her religion's standards on what is acceptable, there would be no show with her in it.

My wife and I are a perfect example. We are completely open and honest with each other. The show could not possibly bring any new or shocking information from either one of us. The audience would be snoring in no time.

As a side note, that last question was a trick. Since the question is so subjective and there can be so much internal conflict on the answer, it is ENTIRELY possible that no matter which way the person answered, the lie detector would say it was a lie. It's one of probably a few failsafe questions used by Fox so they don't have to pay the contestants the money.

Now THAT is classy... :-(

The only way to stop shows like this is to stop watching. After all, advertising is their income. Make it known to friends and family that you not only do not indulge yourself in this kind of Schadenfreude, but that you would want them to refrain from it as well.

I personally have never watched this show or any other degrading reality show.

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wax66 says...

This show has many 'problems'. It's obvious by its popularity that many people indulge in Schadenfreude, which is left to their own moral compass. And sure, we all think it's despicable for the rich to pay the poor for degrading acts, but that will never stop as long as there is even the slightest differences in pay. After all, people tend to do what they can get away with. However, the real problem here is that people have something to hide in the first place. If the slut had just simply been honest with herself and her husband about wanting to be a slut, and not bended to society's and possibly her religion's standards on what is acceptable, there would be no show with her in it.

My wife and I are a perfect example. We are completely open and honest with each other. The show could not possibly bring any new or shocking information from either one of us. The audience would be snoring in no time.

As a side note, that last question was a trick. Since the question is so subjective and there can be so much internal conflict on the answer, it is ENTIRELY possible that no matter which way the person answered, the lie detector would say it was a lie. It's one of probably a few failsafe questions used by Fox so they don't have to pay the contestants the money.

Now THAT is classy... :-(

The only way to stop shows like this is to stop watching. After all, advertising is their income. Make it known to friends and family that you not only do not indulge yourself in this kind of Schadenfreude, but that you would want them to refrain from it as well.

I personally have never watched this show or any other degrading reality show.

Moment of Truth Destroys Marriage

Aemaeth says...

It's silly, really. (I suppose) What they do is trap people: someone is invited to audition for the show. They are strapped to a lie detector and undergo a series of questions. The questions start out mild and gradually get more severe. People will answer extremely personal questions because they are gradually introduced to them and they figure "it's not much worse than the last one." After revealing all this (or lying about it), they are invited back to be on the show. Maybe they are told that they will be recorded and win money, but may not be aired. Maybe they figure they beat the lie detector. Maybe they just need the money that bad. It also helps convince them to go since they have already talked about it all once and feel more comfortable with it now. Once the show starts, they can't stop it because it's always assumed it can't really get worse...

Beware Fox reality shows. Nothing good can come from it.

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Trancecoach says...

Lie detectors (polygraphs) are widely condemned in the scientific literature as having little value in the ability to detect the veracity of a person's statement. These devices measure physiological arousal, which may result from a number of conditions (such as appetite, fatigue, excitability, reactivity to the questioner, temperature of the room, etc.) and may have only a passing correlation with how a person feels about the things he or she says. This is in addition to the fact that some people might lie without knowing it or lie so well that it's not detected. As a result, one can easily say that this program is a farce and a spectacle on the order of gladiator tribulations or the minstrel shows of the 19th century.

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Enzoblue says...

"while hooked to a lie detector(which are inaccurate, incidentally)"

I've heard pro lie detector guys say their incredibly accurate if done by an expert. I think it's one of those things, people want to think they aren't sure-fire when in reality they are.

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sineral says...

This doesn't seem that bad to me. It's like Jerry Springer, but in gameshow format. To any degree the contests suffer, its caused by their own actions. And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of it is put on for the show.

Also, they are asked a number of questions before the show, while hooked to a lie detector(which are inaccurate, incidentally), they just don't know the results of the lie detector or which questions will be re-asked during the show. So they know what they're getting into and have a chance to back out before the show.

Having said that, the show is completely uninteresting crap. But I feel that way about 99% of what is on television.

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joedirt (Member Profile)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

You're not getting it Joe, we are talking about internalized and institutionalized racism, not intentional racism. Go ahead and look those terms up.

I'm not sure if the 'Joe Dirt' thing is a character like BillOReilly, so perhaps you are putting me on, but the thought crime canard was already put to bed in another thread - http://www.videosift.com/video/Devout-Christians-beware-Teh-GAYZ-are-coming-to-your-town#comment-293179) -if you care to read it.

Here's the short version:
You are entitled to whatever racist thoughts you like in your own head. That is not a crime. But, once you commit an actual crime with the intent to terrorize a particular group, you've entered the realm of hate crime. Actions aren't thoughts, Joe.

Capiche?



In reply to this comment by joedirt:
This is the definition of a "concern troll". You sound really dumb citing the "C" in NAACP is somehow racism. So is the Holocaust museum then. Also, I love how much of the world is moving quickly to thoughtcrimes. Facial recognition is being used by airports to give you the special treatment. It literally won't be long before highschools have special facial recogition / lie detectors to counsel bullies and racism in students.

Can we just start with railing against racist actions and ignore thought crimes and "gee my introspection tells me a harbor racist and homophobic thoughts". Let's keep it to actions and words, like those of the author. (before some idiot tells me words are thoughts. No, your diary that no one reads is thoughts. Things you publish in emails and on the internets are actions).

Everyone's a Little Bit Racist (Sift Talk Post)

joedirt says...

This is the definition of a "concern troll". You sound really dumb citing the "C" in NAACP is somehow racism. So is the Holocaust museum then. Also, I love how much of the world is moving quickly to thoughtcrimes. Facial recognition is being used by airports to give you the special treatment. It literally won't be long before highschools have special facial recogition / lie detectors to counsel bullies and racism in students.

Can we just start with railing against racist actions and ignore thought crimes and "gee my introspection tells me a harbor racist and homophobic thoughts". Let's keep it to actions and words, like those of the author. (before some idiot tells me words are thoughts. No, your diary that no one reads is thoughts. Things you publish in emails and on the internets are actions).

Job Interview with polygraph



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